BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Spotted that one the other day.pblakeney said:
You may jest but in America the Girl Scouts are upset that The Boy Scouts became The Scouts, went inclusive and are now "stealing" girls from the Girl Scouts.morstar said:
Grey areas huh. Like the French feminist employing too many women.
Yes, the world and equal opportunities throw up some interesting stories.
I can actually understand why young girls may benefit from an environment devoid of boys but it is not acceptable to acknowledge the opposite.
My lad did Cubs and scouts in a mixed troop and I have no issue with it but I guess some boys may prefer a girl free environment. Why shouldn’t they be allowed it?
Eldest played junior ice hockey and interestingly enough the girls were generally, better until the older age groups where size and strength kick in.0 -
nope, it adds cost and restrictions on the uk, i've zero interest in wasting time with the brexiters' red tapekingstongraham said:I'd be interested if there is anyone on here who is directly going to have to put up with the extra bureaucracy who thinks it's worth it.
It's easy to say it's worth someone else's time.
cancelled hiring in the uk the day after the referendum, all the new hires have been eu nationals, it's staying that way - they're free to travel and work in more countries, easier security clearance, no delays waiting for permits, less hassle
high-value jobs, spending, revenue and taxes that once would have benefited the uk are now in the eu
business is business
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I guess it's given me gainful employment, even if it's way shitter than what I had in the EU...kingstongraham said:I'd be interested if there is anyone on here who is directly going to have to put up with the extra bureaucracy who thinks it's worth it.
It's easy to say it's worth someone else's time.
SunGod, you're aren't related to the Verbier based goggle company of the same name are you?We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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warms the cockles of one's heartrick_chasey said:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/29/boris-is-a-kipper-fury-and-frustration-at-brexit-fishing-deal-in-brixham
Lots of gloomy quotes from fisherman.Brixham-born Sean Irvine, 61, who has been fishing from the port since the early 1990s, said he was glad, at least, that there had been a deal but he is concerned about the new paperwork that will be needed to send fish to mainland Europe – as much as 80% of Irvine’s catch is exported.
“We’ll be catching the same fish in the same water as the French but we’ll have to produce a mountain of paperwork for it. It seems to me what we have achieved is minuscule when you think of the upsets it has caused in families and communities. All that effort for so little.”
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bloody upstart name stealersddraver said:
I guess it's given me gainful employment, evening it's way shitter than what I had in the EU...kingstongraham said:I'd be interested if there is anyone on here who is directly going to have to put up with the extra bureaucracy who thinks it's worth it.
It's easy to say it's worth someone else's time.
SunGod, you're aren't related to the Verbier based goggle company of the same name are you?
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Apparently we can no longer export raw sausages to the EU and even more surprisingly raw milk from TB effected cows.0
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https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55479354webboo said:Apparently we can no longer export raw sausages to the EU and even more surprisingly raw milk from TB effected cows.
EekRaw sausages and other minced meats can no longer be exported to the EU from 1 January, according to new rules.
The guidance is part of the post-Brexit trade deal agreed between the UK and the EU last week.
Meat industry bodies attended a conference call with ministers on Tuesday to seek clarification about the issue.
The British Meat Processors Association said it was one of several issues causing concern.
New EU rules on exports dictate that from 1 January, the following animal products cannot be exported into the EU:
Chilled minced red meat
Chilled meat preparations (for example, raw sausages)
Minced meat (poultry)
Poultry and ratite or game bird mechanically-separated meat
Raw milk from cows infected with Bovine Tuberculosis (TB)
Ungraded eggs
Composite products containing dairy products made from unpasteurised milk (for example, a ready meal topped with unpasteurised cheese)0 -
We’ve literally hit Yes, Minister territory - high fat emulsified offal tube, anyone?rick_chasey said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55479354webboo said:Apparently we can no longer export raw sausages to the EU and even more surprisingly raw milk from TB effected cows.
EekRaw sausages and other minced meats can no longer be exported to the EU from 1 January, according to new rules.
The guidance is part of the post-Brexit trade deal agreed between the UK and the EU last week.
Meat industry bodies attended a conference call with ministers on Tuesday to seek clarification about the issue.
The British Meat Processors Association said it was one of several issues causing concern.
New EU rules on exports dictate that from 1 January, the following animal products cannot be exported into the EU:
Chilled minced red meat
Chilled meat preparations (for example, raw sausages)
Minced meat (poultry)
Poultry and ratite or game bird mechanically-separated meat
Raw milk from cows infected with Bovine Tuberculosis (TB)
Ungraded eggs
Composite products containing dairy products made from unpasteurised milk (for example, a ready meal topped with unpasteurised cheese)0 -
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Short, what motive would Norway have to say this?shortfall said:A view from Norway.
I mean, it as predictable as my post-coffee morning sh!t.
They’re hardly gonna say “hah ours is much better don’t worry EU”
They’re gonna use Brexit as leverage if they can and why not.0 -
Send them frozen mince and sausages, paturise the milk.rick_chasey said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55479354webboo said:Apparently we can no longer export raw sausages to the EU and even more surprisingly raw milk from TB effected cows.
EekRaw sausages and other minced meats can no longer be exported to the EU from 1 January, according to new rules.
The guidance is part of the post-Brexit trade deal agreed between the UK and the EU last week.
Meat industry bodies attended a conference call with ministers on Tuesday to seek clarification about the issue.
The British Meat Processors Association said it was one of several issues causing concern.
New EU rules on exports dictate that from 1 January, the following animal products cannot be exported into the EU:
Chilled minced red meat
Chilled meat preparations (for example, raw sausages)
Minced meat (poultry)
Poultry and ratite or game bird mechanically-separated meat
Raw milk from cows infected with Bovine Tuberculosis (TB)
Ungraded eggs
Composite products containing dairy products made from unpasteurised milk (for example, a ready meal topped with unpasteurised cheese)0 -
Do we know if this list is common to all 3rd countries or does it reflect our previous successful attempts to poison our food chainrick_chasey said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55479354webboo said:Apparently we can no longer export raw sausages to the EU and even more surprisingly raw milk from TB effected cows.
EekRaw sausages and other minced meats can no longer be exported to the EU from 1 January, according to new rules.
The guidance is part of the post-Brexit trade deal agreed between the UK and the EU last week.
Meat industry bodies attended a conference call with ministers on Tuesday to seek clarification about the issue.
The British Meat Processors Association said it was one of several issues causing concern.
New EU rules on exports dictate that from 1 January, the following animal products cannot be exported into the EU:
Chilled minced red meat
Chilled meat preparations (for example, raw sausages)
Minced meat (poultry)
Poultry and ratite or game bird mechanically-separated meat
Raw milk from cows infected with Bovine Tuberculosis (TB)
Ungraded eggs
Composite products containing dairy products made from unpasteurised milk (for example, a ready meal topped with unpasteurised cheese)1 -
Each to their own. We've had plenty of non-EU expats in our European head office in London and in other locations around Europe for years. Never seemed to be a massive barrier for them.sungod said:
nope, it adds cost and restrictions on the uk, i've zero interest in wasting time with the brexiters' red tapekingstongraham said:I'd be interested if there is anyone on here who is directly going to have to put up with the extra bureaucracy who thinks it's worth it.
It's easy to say it's worth someone else's time.
cancelled hiring in the uk the day after the referendum, all the new hires have been eu nationals, it's staying that way - they're free to travel and work in more countries, easier security clearance, no delays waiting for permits, less hassle
high-value jobs, spending, revenue and taxes that once would have benefited the uk are now in the eu
business is business"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Let’s hope this isn’t right.
Here’s the gov page: https://www.gov.uk/taking-goods-out-uk-temporarily
I can see how they’ve arrived at that conclusion but it seems bonkers?! Surely can’t be right.0 -
I'll call b0ll0cks on that.rick_chasey said:
Let’s hope this isn’t right.
Here’s the gov page: https://www.gov.uk/taking-goods-out-uk-temporarily
I can see how they’ve arrived at that conclusion but it seems bonkers?! Surely can’t be right.
Does anything constructive ever get written on Twitter?
On both sides all I can see is b0ll0cks being spouted on Twitter.2 -
+1.skyblueamateur said:
I'll call b0ll0cks on that.rick_chasey said:
Let’s hope this isn’t right.
Here’s the gov page: https://www.gov.uk/taking-goods-out-uk-temporarily
I can see how they’ve arrived at that conclusion but it seems bonkers?! Surely can’t be right.
Does anything constructive ever get written on Twitter?
On both sides all I can see is b0ll0cks being spouted on Twitter.
That is BS."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
The most amazing thing about the whole Brexit debate is the extent to which people ignore the world outside the EU. Do tourists from all over the world spend time and money buying carnets for their mobile phones and laptops on a trip to the EU? No. So why would people from the UK suddenly need them?rick_chasey said:
Let’s hope this isn’t right.
Here’s the gov page: https://www.gov.uk/taking-goods-out-uk-temporarily
I can see how they’ve arrived at that conclusion but it seems bonkers?! Surely can’t be right.
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I have labelled some people on here 'Little Europeans' for ignoring or massively playing down the significance the world outside of the EU - which represents around 85% of the global economy. Apparently the 15% is all that matters though (and more like 13% now we are out)."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1
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Well yes I had the same thought process. That’s why I figured it wasn’t right. Hence “surely can’t be right”TheBigBean said:
The most amazing thing about the whole Brexit debate is the extent to which people ignore the world outside the EU. Do tourists from all over the world spend time and money buying carnets for their mobile phones and laptops on a trip to the EU? No. So why would people from the UK suddenly need them?rick_chasey said:
Let’s hope this isn’t right.
Here’s the gov page: https://www.gov.uk/taking-goods-out-uk-temporarily
I can see how they’ve arrived at that conclusion but it seems bonkers?! Surely can’t be right.
So explain to me the gov page that accounts for that?0 -
i saw white stuff falling from the sky today, is the sky collapsing????
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I think my Remain credentials are well established, but even I saw through that...
Anyone who has spent the smallest amount of time trying to navigate the Gov.uk website on these topics is very aware that they re simply awful. Mostly going round and round in circles but also pages of incomplete info...such as that one 👆We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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"References to decades-old computer software are included in the new Brexit agreement, including a description of Netscape Communicator and Mozilla Mail as being "modern" services.
Experts believe officials must have copied and pasted chunks of text from old legislation into the document."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55475433
Did Chris Grayling have anything to do with drawing this up? Reminiscent of the brexit ferry contract Ts and C's.0 -
Dandruff?david37 said:i saw white stuff falling from the sky today, is the sky collapsing????
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https://ukandeu.ac.uk/british-sovereignty-run-by-europe/
Some law professor looks at the deal from a divergence perspective.
The site claims independence in the Brexit issue so take your own view.0 -
You're allowed to import the duty free allowance (£395). That excludes things you will export in the case of visitors, or have previously exported and are now returning in the case of residents.rick_chasey said:
Well yes I had the same thought process. That’s why I figured it wasn’t right. Hence “surely can’t be right”TheBigBean said:
The most amazing thing about the whole Brexit debate is the extent to which people ignore the world outside the EU. Do tourists from all over the world spend time and money buying carnets for their mobile phones and laptops on a trip to the EU? No. So why would people from the UK suddenly need them?rick_chasey said:
Let’s hope this isn’t right.
Here’s the gov page: https://www.gov.uk/taking-goods-out-uk-temporarily
I can see how they’ve arrived at that conclusion but it seems bonkers?! Surely can’t be right.
So explain to me the gov page that accounts for that?
The customs officer can challenge whether you will actually export the items, so someone turning up with 20 new iPhones may attract attention. In this case, the officer could demand that you pay duty on the phones and then reclaim it on departure. That's a bit of a pain, so if you are in the business of travelling with 20 new phones which you intend to export (e.g. you play expensive dominos), you may choose to invest in a carnet in advance.
I think the carnet guarantees the duty will be paid or it may confirm that you already owned it so are able to reimport it or both. It's not my specialist area of knowledge.
So, all up, the only time anyone normal runs into a carnet is for a car, and even then it is in a limited number of countries. Some people said expensive musical instruments may also need them.
Perhaps the forum's new customs officer can confirm.0 -
What about an expensive bike.0
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Bottom falls out of the second hand bike case market. I've only used my recent one once. 🤬 I imagine that it won't come to that. Nobody questions my camera equipment worldwide.webboo said:What about an expensive bike.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
A carnet is for stuff you already own that you're taking out, but also bringing back. A touring band for example with all it's instruments being an example de jour. 20 new iPhones man will have to show he's brought 20 new iPhones back.TheBigBean said:
You're allowed to import the duty free allowance (£395). That excludes things you will export in the case of visitors, or have previously exported and are now returning in the case of residents.rick_chasey said:
Well yes I had the same thought process. That’s why I figured it wasn’t right. Hence “surely can’t be right”TheBigBean said:
The most amazing thing about the whole Brexit debate is the extent to which people ignore the world outside the EU. Do tourists from all over the world spend time and money buying carnets for their mobile phones and laptops on a trip to the EU? No. So why would people from the UK suddenly need them?rick_chasey said:
Let’s hope this isn’t right.
Here’s the gov page: https://www.gov.uk/taking-goods-out-uk-temporarily
I can see how they’ve arrived at that conclusion but it seems bonkers?! Surely can’t be right.
So explain to me the gov page that accounts for that?
The customs officer can challenge whether you will actually export the items, so someone turning up with 20 new iPhones may attract attention. In this case, the officer could demand that you pay duty on the phones and then reclaim it on departure. That's a bit of a pain, so if you are in the business of travelling with 20 new phones which you intend to export (e.g. you play expensive dominos), you may choose to invest in a carnet in advance.
I think the carnet guarantees the duty will be paid or it may confirm that you already owned it so are able to reimport it or both. It's not my specialist area of knowledge.
So, all up, the only time anyone normal runs into a carnet is for a car, and even then it is in a limited number of countries. Some people said expensive musical instruments may also need them.
Perhaps the forum's new customs officer can confirm.
But also think exhibitions, conferences, Art galleries etc.
It's to check that you didn't try and avoid duty or any other restrictions by moving your expensive goods out of a country and then selling them in another.
(The proper name being 'entering goods into a Customs Freight Special Procedure (CFSP), in this case Temporary Admission - to use them requires an awful lot of paperwork, a financial guarantee, is time-limited etc. - in other words, you need a reasonably priced I'm sure, Customs Agent to sort it for you...)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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