BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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You wanted no deal last week didn't you?2
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You have a real skill at reading something that isn't there.coopster_the_1st said:
So you've just confirmed this was more remoaner scaremongeringFirst.Aspect said:
I was thinking more about food shipments to the UK to be honest.coopster_the_1st said:
Think of the tourism damage to the likes of Spain and Portugal aloneFirst.Aspect said:
Given the balance of trade, its an empty threat isn't it. You have had 4 1/2 years to figure this out.john80 said:If UK driving licenses are not accepted in the EU any self respecting sovereign nation would return the favour. Let that sink in for a moment.
This local damage is way more real than comparing the balance of trade between the UK and EU
It is a non issue anyway. Ive never had a problem renting a car wherever I've travelled, in or out of the EU.0 -
There's more red tape needed, that's all.coopster_the_1st said:
So you've just confirmed this was more remoaner scaremongeringFirst.Aspect said:
I was thinking more about food shipments to the UK to be honest.coopster_the_1st said:
Think of the tourism damage to the likes of Spain and Portugal aloneFirst.Aspect said:
Given the balance of trade, its an empty threat isn't it. You have had 4 1/2 years to figure this out.john80 said:If UK driving licenses are not accepted in the EU any self respecting sovereign nation would return the favour. Let that sink in for a moment.
This local damage is way more real than comparing the balance of trade between the UK and EU
It is a non issue anyway. Ive never had a problem renting a car wherever I've travelled, in or out of the EU.
As a remainer myself, I don't disagree that there is a good deal of over statement going on. By both sides. It is very tiring.0 -
It is not about balance of trade is it. If the EU want to self harm then let them get on with it or accept the originals posters claim that UK driving licenses would not be valid is likely to be a bogus claim. Worst case you will be getting an international license from the post office for a tenner as I had to do when I visited South Korea couple of years ago.First.Aspect said:
Given the balance of trade, its an empty threat isn't it. You have had 4 1/2 years to figure this out.john80 said:If UK driving licenses are not accepted in the EU any self respecting sovereign nation would return the favour. Let that sink in for a moment.
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That's up there with "we've had enough of experts".john80 said:
It is not about balance of trade is it. If the EU want to self harm then let them get on with it or accept the originals posters claim that UK driving licenses would not be valid is likely to be a bogus claim. Worst case you will be getting an international license from the post office for a tenner as I had to do when I visited South Korea couple of years ago.First.Aspect said:
Given the balance of trade, its an empty threat isn't it. You have had 4 1/2 years to figure this out.john80 said:If UK driving licenses are not accepted in the EU any self respecting sovereign nation would return the favour. Let that sink in for a moment.
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Oddly a Korean licence is one of the few that you can swap for a UK licence.john80 said:
It is not about balance of trade is it. If the EU want to self harm then let them get on with it or accept the originals posters claim that UK driving licenses would not be valid is likely to be a bogus claim. Worst case you will be getting an international license from the post office for a tenner as I had to do when I visited South Korea couple of years ago.First.Aspect said:
Given the balance of trade, its an empty threat isn't it. You have had 4 1/2 years to figure this out.john80 said:If UK driving licenses are not accepted in the EU any self respecting sovereign nation would return the favour. Let that sink in for a moment.
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Omg.john80 said:
It is not about balance of trade is it. If the EU want to self harm then let them get on with it or accept the originals posters claim that UK driving licenses would not be valid is likely to be a bogus claim. Worst case you will be getting an international license from the post office for a tenner as I had to do when I visited South Korea couple of years ago.First.Aspect said:
Given the balance of trade, its an empty threat isn't it. You have had 4 1/2 years to figure this out.john80 said:If UK driving licenses are not accepted in the EU any self respecting sovereign nation would return the favour. Let that sink in for a moment.
So having to get an international licence is not the same as it is today and your licence being accepted. Its not scaremongering it's just being accurate and not saying things are one thing when they're not.
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We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Looks like the remoaner virus spread faster to Ireland than the C19 mutant oneddraver said:
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It’s unfortunate Brexiters don’t have more sympathy for people and families who built their lives off the back of EU membership.
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I see you don't clarify the 80% of the economy bit - I wonder why?surrey_commuter said:OK I will give real numbers for the hard of thinking.
In 2019 the UK had a deficit in trade in goods with the EU of £100bn and a surplus on services of £20bn.
Which side do you reckon got the best end of that deal?0 -
"DRIVERS are set to face major changes to road laws from January 1 when the Brexit transition period comes to an end despite signing a new Brexit deal."
That from the Express, so hardly a lefty paper.
There's also a video from the president of the AA explaining the changes that accompanies the article.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1376540/driving-abroad-after-brexit-europe-transition-new-deal-travel/amp0 -
In fairness, you've had 4 years to ready yourself.rick_chasey said:It’s unfortunate Brexiters don’t have more sympathy for people and families who built their lives off the back of EU membership.
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Just because I’ve had 4 years to anticipate a ball ache doesn’t stop it being a ball ache.darkhairedlord said:
In fairness, you've had 4 years to ready yourself.rick_chasey said:It’s unfortunate Brexiters don’t have more sympathy for people and families who built their lives off the back of EU membership.
All academic atm anyway.0 -
There's also the point that the majority of our exports to the EU are not services:Dorset_Boy said:
I see you don't clarify the 80% of the economy bit - I wonder why?surrey_commuter said:OK I will give real numbers for the hard of thinking.
In 2019 the UK had a deficit in trade in goods with the EU of £100bn and a surplus on services of £20bn.
Which side do you reckon got the best end of that deal?
https://politico.eu/article/uk-eu-brexit-trade-deal-at-a-glance/
Quote: "More than 40 percent of the U.K.’s exports to the EU are services". So not quite what SC tries to make out."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
When Boris was saying there would be no paperwork required for 'NI to GB' trade, that was typically an answer to a question which wasn't being asked.TheBigBean said:
It depends who you are talking about. I think the UK government fully understood the withdrawal agreement. Maybe not all MPs did. Boris was ridiculed for saying that no paperwork would be required for NI -> GB trade, but ultimately he was right.tailwindhome said:
We won't know what the mistakes in the agreement are. It's 1500pages and being ratified in 1 day.TheBigBean said:
I don't think the withdrawal agreement was a mistake. If there is a mistake being made this time, then clearly that is something worth pointing out. That neither has covered themselves in glory over the last year is water under the bridge now.tailwindhome said:
OkTheBigBean said:
Sounds about right. Dwelling on memories in Northern Irish politics is presumably a part of the problem.tailwindhome said:Wait
Everyone's just throwing the Internal Markets Bill which had to be introduced due to the Withdrawal Agreement, that Parliament didn't scrutinize before passing and then couldn't possibly accept, into the old memory hole?
Ok
None of that happened.
There's some middle ground between grudges held for generations and literally forgetting everything which was said a couple of weeks ago as we repeat the same mistakes
The point is, we've done this before. Agreed the WA for applause and cheers then realised what was in it.
The other challenge with the withdrawal agreement is that it was an agreement to agree something which is always going to be less clear.
All of that said, the withdrawal agreement worked.
So I would expect the UK government to completely understand the deal. I don't expect all MPs to even if given two months to debate it.
Multiple new processes have been added to trade between GB and NI.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Ahh Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.
It seems the primary objective of Brexit has become to prove the other side wrong.
A shit idea in my opinion but seeing as we’re doing it, hopefully a success.0 -
Some of this is factually incorrect. The 25% cut is phased in over five years as opposed to starting after five years. Also, UK services didn't have complete access before, and it's hard for the EU to prevent a service being contracted in the UK and worked on in the UK. Plus I'm intrigued about the 30th Country. I have EU26, plus Iceland, Norway and Switzerland. Andorra?ddraver said:0 -
A remainer not being factually. What has happened to the world.TheBigBean said:
Some of this is factually incorrect. The 25% cut is phased in over five years as opposed to starting after five years. Also, UK services didn't have complete access before, and it's hard for the EU to prevent a service being contracted in the UK and worked on in the UK. Plus I'm intrigued about the 30th Country. I have EU26, plus Iceland, Norway and Switzerland. Andorra?ddraver said:0 -
When they start putting foreign nationals in the gullag and forcefully splitting up families I will start to take you seriously. If it is a bit of paperwork then no I don't have a lot of sympathy.rick_chasey said:It’s unfortunate Brexiters don’t have more sympathy for people and families who built their lives off the back of EU membership.
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Is it just a but of paperwork? Are you sure about that?john80 said:
When they start putting foreign nationals in the gullag and forcefully splitting up families I will start to take you seriously. If it is a bit of paperwork then no I don't have a lot of sympathy.rick_chasey said:It’s unfortunate Brexiters don’t have more sympathy for people and families who built their lives off the back of EU membership.
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It's not Andorra or Lichenstein. Not sure about San Marino. In view of the other tweets, I'm going to have to assume the 30th country is Ireland and the tweeter really has no idea.0
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“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
If you want to move a parcel from GB to NI, Yodel will still provide that service
It's not straightforward and may change
Many companies have just stopped serving NI (at least temporarily until they figure it out)
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
You will have to help me out. How can I guess which bit you don’t understand.Dorset_Boy said:
I see you don't clarify the 80% of the economy bit - I wonder why?surrey_commuter said:OK I will give real numbers for the hard of thinking.
In 2019 the UK had a deficit in trade in goods with the EU of £100bn and a surplus on services of £20bn.
Which side do you reckon got the best end of that deal?
EU membership gave free movement of goods and services
We have an enormous trade deficit in goods
We have a healthy trade surplus in services
The new FTA does not include services
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Is that relevant? Ignorance is a widespread phenomenon. I've just noticed there was a 4th and 5th tweet, but I'll spare you.tailwindhome said:....
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You'll be able the vote for TheBigBean honesty box in four years.tailwindhome said:If you want to move a parcel from GB to NI, Yodel will still provide that service
It's not straightforward and may change
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It's not even paperwork. It's an app.elbowloh said:
Is it just a but of paperwork? Are you sure about that?john80 said:
When they start putting foreign nationals in the gullag and forcefully splitting up families I will start to take you seriously. If it is a bit of paperwork then no I don't have a lot of sympathy.rick_chasey said:It’s unfortunate Brexiters don’t have more sympathy for people and families who built their lives off the back of EU membership.
On the basis I have spent over £10k and wasted days on reading documents to submit hundreds of pages of supporting information for the equivalent status as can be obtained by spending 5 mins on a free app, I'm not that sympathetic.0 -
On the plus side is NI not still in the EU?tailwindhome said:If you want to move a parcel from GB to NI, Yodel will still provide that service
It's not straightforward and may change
Many companies have just stopped serving NI (at least temporarily until they figure it out)0
