BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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whereas the collective noun for brexiters is a "treason of brexiters"coopster_the_1st said:Did you know, the collective noun for remoaners is a "runt of remoaners"
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More remoaner scaremongering has been exposed.
- A UK driving licence will be valid in the EU after 31st December 2020
- EHIC medical coverage will continue as before but under a different name
What won't change it the gullibility of remoaners to these scaremongering lies.0 -
The second point needs fact checking. Other than the acronym there are no details on the replacement scheme.0
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As I said:First.Aspect said:The second point needs fact checking. Other than the acronym there are no details on the replacement scheme.
What won't change it the gullibility of remoaners to these scaremongering lies.0 -
I, for one, am looking forward to the listing of what's in the trade deal as all the 'glorious no deal' chat gets thrown in the memory holecoopster_the_1st said:More remoaner scaremongering has been exposed.
- A UK driving licence will be valid in the EU after 31st December 2020
- EHIC medical coverage will continue as before but under a different name
What won't change it the gullibility of remoaners to these scaremongering lies.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Sounds about right. Dwelling on memories in Northern Irish politics is presumably a part of the problem.tailwindhome said:Wait
Everyone's just throwing the Internal Markets Bill which had to be introduced due to the Withdrawal Agreement, that Parliament didn't scrutinize before passing and then couldn't possibly accept, into the old memory hole?
Ok
None of that happened.1 -
OkTheBigBean said:
Sounds about right. Dwelling on memories in Northern Irish politics is presumably a part of the problem.tailwindhome said:Wait
Everyone's just throwing the Internal Markets Bill which had to be introduced due to the Withdrawal Agreement, that Parliament didn't scrutinize before passing and then couldn't possibly accept, into the old memory hole?
Ok
None of that happened.
There's some middle ground between grudges held for generations and literally forgetting everything which was said a couple of weeks ago as we repeat the same mistakes
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1 -
I'm also looking forward to Yvette Cooper asking Patel about the security and policing section
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
😂 Did the author skip history when they were at school?Stevo_666 said:
If I see articles with merit then I'll post them. Which bits of that article do you disagree with?kingstongraham said:Stevo, you know how you should view the Guardian comment section? The same goes for the Telegraph.
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Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Driving licence. Only for a short period of time.coopster_the_1st said:More remoaner scaremongering has been exposed.
- A UK driving licence will be valid in the EU after 31st December 2020
- EHIC medical coverage will continue as before but under a different name
What won't change it the gullibility of remoaners to these scaremongering lies.
On the the EHIC. Well not really. They said that it would be a similar scheme, not the same one under a different name. We don't know what will be covered yet or how.0 -
details detailselbowloh said:
Driving licence. Only for a short period of time.coopster_the_1st said:More remoaner scaremongering has been exposed.
- A UK driving licence will be valid in the EU after 31st December 2020
- EHIC medical coverage will continue as before but under a different name
What won't change it the gullibility of remoaners to these scaremongering lies.
On the the EHIC. Well not really. They said that it would be a similar scheme, not the same one under a different name. We don't know what will be covered yet or how.0 -
Think it is fair to say “they said” is not reliable.
They also said no customs border in the Irish Sea0 -
I don't think the withdrawal agreement was a mistake. If there is a mistake being made this time, then clearly that is something worth pointing out. That neither has covered themselves in glory over the last year is water under the bridge now.tailwindhome said:
OkTheBigBean said:
Sounds about right. Dwelling on memories in Northern Irish politics is presumably a part of the problem.tailwindhome said:Wait
Everyone's just throwing the Internal Markets Bill which had to be introduced due to the Withdrawal Agreement, that Parliament didn't scrutinize before passing and then couldn't possibly accept, into the old memory hole?
Ok
None of that happened.
There's some middle ground between grudges held for generations and literally forgetting everything which was said a couple of weeks ago as we repeat the same mistakes0 -
The great thing about the reclamation of UK sovereignty is that if something is negative towards the UK, MP's can vote in the UK's interest to change it and it will get changed.0
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I've not noticed anything obvious from my point of view. May have to wait in a different passport queue next time I go skiing?sungod said:
no, uk citizens can now do less than beforeStevo_666 said:
I'll rephrase that - we can do a lot more than before.rick_chasey said:
Well no not exactly as you want. As per above.Stevo_666 said:
Whatever we want - which is exactly the pointrick_chasey said:
So what do you do with all this expensive sovereignty?Stevo_666 said:rick_chasey said:
Honestly I think this is the point - it looks more independent than it will be in reality.rick_chasey said:
Only time will tell whether it is expensive.
Sounds like you don't like that. C'est la vie, as we say in England
it's a massive stripping of individuals' rights
sounds like you like that"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
Probably just has a different set of blinkers from yoursrjsterry said:
😂 Did the author skip history when they were at school?Stevo_666 said:
If I see articles with merit then I'll post them. Which bits of that article do you disagree with?kingstongraham said:Stevo, you know how you should view the Guardian comment section? The same goes for the Telegraph.
I notice you're a bit light on specific rebuttals. "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
If true, that is really good news... look forward to receiving my new card with a new acronymcoopster_the_1st said:
- EHIC medical coverage will continue as before but under a different name
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Presumably, you only need some kind of green card of sort if you drive in the EU... it's not that suddenly you won't be able to drive anymore.elbowloh said:
Driving licence. Only for a short period of time.
It is entirely possible that if you move to the EU, you'll still be able to swap your driving licence for a local one... you can do it with some non EU licences
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We won't know what the mistakes in the agreement are. It's 1500pages and being ratified in 1 day.TheBigBean said:
I don't think the withdrawal agreement was a mistake. If there is a mistake being made this time, then clearly that is something worth pointing out. That neither has covered themselves in glory over the last year is water under the bridge now.tailwindhome said:
OkTheBigBean said:
Sounds about right. Dwelling on memories in Northern Irish politics is presumably a part of the problem.tailwindhome said:Wait
Everyone's just throwing the Internal Markets Bill which had to be introduced due to the Withdrawal Agreement, that Parliament didn't scrutinize before passing and then couldn't possibly accept, into the old memory hole?
Ok
None of that happened.
There's some middle ground between grudges held for generations and literally forgetting everything which was said a couple of weeks ago as we repeat the same mistakes
The point is, we've done this before. Agreed the WA for applause and cheers then realised what was in it.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Whilst I am not surprised that Boris has got away with declaring peace in our time but am amazed even he had the chutzpah to claim he got what he wanted.
What he has got is better than no deal but it should be remembered that his start point was all the benefits of membership with none of the drawbacks.
Instead we have done a deal that excludes 80% of our economy and the bit that we have a major surplus with the EU in.0 -
It depends who you are talking about. I think the UK government fully understood the withdrawal agreement. Maybe not all MPs did. Boris was ridiculed for saying that no paperwork would be required for NI -> GB trade, but ultimately he was right.tailwindhome said:
We won't know what the mistakes in the agreement are. It's 1500pages and being ratified in 1 day.TheBigBean said:
I don't think the withdrawal agreement was a mistake. If there is a mistake being made this time, then clearly that is something worth pointing out. That neither has covered themselves in glory over the last year is water under the bridge now.tailwindhome said:
OkTheBigBean said:
Sounds about right. Dwelling on memories in Northern Irish politics is presumably a part of the problem.tailwindhome said:Wait
Everyone's just throwing the Internal Markets Bill which had to be introduced due to the Withdrawal Agreement, that Parliament didn't scrutinize before passing and then couldn't possibly accept, into the old memory hole?
Ok
None of that happened.
There's some middle ground between grudges held for generations and literally forgetting everything which was said a couple of weeks ago as we repeat the same mistakes
The point is, we've done this before. Agreed the WA for applause and cheers then realised what was in it.
The other challenge with the withdrawal agreement is that it was an agreement to agree something which is always going to be less clear.
All of that said, the withdrawal agreement worked.
So I would expect the UK government to completely understand the deal. I don't expect all MPs to even if given two months to debate it.0 -
Isn't the last sentence a bit disingenius as hasn't it been reported that a very large part of that 80% have no dealing with the EU?surrey_commuter said:Whilst I am not surprised that Boris has got away with declaring peace in our time but am amazed even he had the chutzpah to claim he got what he wanted.
What he has got is better than no deal but it should be remembered that his start point was all the benefits of membership with none of the drawbacks.
Instead we have done a deal that excludes 80% of our economy and the bit that we have a major surplus with the EU in.0 -
That's not what Spain have come out and said.elbowloh said:
Driving licence. Only for a short period of time.coopster_the_1st said:More remoaner scaremongering has been exposed.
- A UK driving licence will be valid in the EU after 31st December 2020
- EHIC medical coverage will continue as before but under a different name
What won't change it the gullibility of remoaners to these scaremongering lies.0 -
You need to stop with the 80% nonsense. If we are assuming the 80% figure claimed is for services then it is a bit of a stretch that many of these services ever did EU business. Give us a real figure excluding all the businesses that don't do EU trade and are unlikely to do in the future.surrey_commuter said:Whilst I am not surprised that Boris has got away with declaring peace in our time but am amazed even he had the chutzpah to claim he got what he wanted.
What he has got is better than no deal but it should be remembered that his start point was all the benefits of membership with none of the drawbacks.
Instead we have done a deal that excludes 80% of our economy and the bit that we have a major surplus with the EU in.0 -
If UK driving licenses are not accepted in the EU any self respecting sovereign nation would return the favour. Let that sink in for a moment.0
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Given the balance of trade, its an empty threat isn't it. You have had 4 1/2 years to figure this out.john80 said:If UK driving licenses are not accepted in the EU any self respecting sovereign nation would return the favour. Let that sink in for a moment.
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Think of the tourism damage to the likes of Spain and Portugal aloneFirst.Aspect said:
Given the balance of trade, its an empty threat isn't it. You have had 4 1/2 years to figure this out.john80 said:If UK driving licenses are not accepted in the EU any self respecting sovereign nation would return the favour. Let that sink in for a moment.
This local damage is way more real than comparing the balance of trade between the UK and EU0 -
OK I will give real numbers for the hard of thinking.
In 2019 the UK had a deficit in trade in goods with the EU of £100bn and a surplus on services of £20bn.
Which side do you reckon got the best end of that deal?0 -
I was thinking more about food shipments to the UK to be honest.coopster_the_1st said:
Think of the tourism damage to the likes of Spain and Portugal aloneFirst.Aspect said:
Given the balance of trade, its an empty threat isn't it. You have had 4 1/2 years to figure this out.john80 said:If UK driving licenses are not accepted in the EU any self respecting sovereign nation would return the favour. Let that sink in for a moment.
This local damage is way more real than comparing the balance of trade between the UK and EU
It is a non issue anyway. Ive never had a problem renting a car wherever I've travelled, in or out of the EU.0 -
So you've just confirmed this was more remoaner scaremongeringFirst.Aspect said:
I was thinking more about food shipments to the UK to be honest.coopster_the_1st said:
Think of the tourism damage to the likes of Spain and Portugal aloneFirst.Aspect said:
Given the balance of trade, its an empty threat isn't it. You have had 4 1/2 years to figure this out.john80 said:If UK driving licenses are not accepted in the EU any self respecting sovereign nation would return the favour. Let that sink in for a moment.
This local damage is way more real than comparing the balance of trade between the UK and EU
It is a non issue anyway. Ive never had a problem renting a car wherever I've travelled, in or out of the EU.-1
