BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Yes.surrey_commuter said:
For reasons I can’t remember the deadline was always July so there was time for ratification. Does that mean we are already in the land of no deal and compromises are still being sought to keep things ticking over until everything is ratifiedddraver said:Could be both good & bad news...
Interesting comments of FoM underneath1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
I can not think of another tax that people love and the higher it is the more they celebrate. If reality never bites then Govt’s around the world have found the perfect revenue generating toolrick_chasey said:
Even MPs talk about import tariffs being paid by the importers and not the consumers.surrey_commuter said:
I imagine that fewer than 1% of the country understand the debate so the rest will chose, or not, to believe whatever bollox Boris tells them.tailwindhome said:Interesting from Andrew Neil.
Worth pointing on that if you had a message grid to sell the agreement on sovereignty /future tariffs, Andrew Neil talking to Mail readers would be a huge win
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9053755/amp/ANDREW-NEIL-No-Deal-nail-coffin-Western-democracy-celebrated-Russia-China.html?__twitter_impression=true
The only audience that matters are the nutters sat behind him, if they force a leadership election he is probably a gonner
The MP who I grew up with is genuinely below average / was bottom set at maths so I cannot be surprised.0 -
Treaty to extend the current arrangement until ratification, but that might give the MEPs an idea that they can delay things, so I would imagine it will be a strictly time limited extension.surrey_commuter said:
For reasons I can’t remember the deadline was always July so there was time for ratification. Does that mean we are already in the land of no deal and compromises are still being sought to keep things ticking over until everything is ratifiedddraver said:Could be both good & bad news...
Interesting comments of FoM underneath
Alternatively, the commission had a few other ideas.0 -
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Another remoaner balloon burst. The elected part of the EU really does not hold the power remoaners told us it had.ddraver said:Could be both good & bad news...
Interesting comments of FoM underneath-2 -
briantrumpet said:
Amusing that the lorry park in Kent won't be ready for 1 January, because of heavy rain, so they are switching the operation to a location called 'Waterbrook'. What could possibly go wrong?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/15/kent-lorry-park-to-miss-brexit-day-deadline
More uninformed remoaner nonsense.briantrumpet said:Amusing that the lorry park in Kent won't be ready for 1 January, because of heavy rain, so they are switching the operation to a location called 'Waterbrook'. What could possibly go wrong?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/15/kent-lorry-park-to-miss-brexit-day-deadline
Waterbrook has been a lorry park for a couple of decades, was recently expanded to increase capacity, and is within 1/2 mile of the delayed location. Nothing will go wrong as all the facilities are already in place at Waterbrook except the custom post(s) which will be the easy part.-1 -
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Can see no other reason for this than pure spite...
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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A much more detailed version of my above, above tweet...
Note last line - "all this because Johnson can't make a decision..."We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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how many UK students use Erasmus each year?ddraver said:Can see no other reason for this than pure spite...
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Aside from the obvious good news it's interesting to note the different messaging.
(On the face of it) No more outlandish claims about these roll over deals. Just calling the achievement for what it is
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1 -
Great, more vajitas and refried sick. At least we get access to some tequila...tailwindhome said:Aside from the obvious good news it's interesting to note the different messaging.
(On the face of it) No more outlandish claims about these roll over deals. Just calling the achievement for what it is-1 -
Some of their pork rearing practices would make you want to check the origin label.darkhairedlord said:
Great, more vajitas and refried sick. At least we get access to some tequila...tailwindhome said:Aside from the obvious good news it's interesting to note the different messaging.
(On the face of it) No more outlandish claims about these roll over deals. Just calling the achievement for what it is0 -
But isn’t this one of the gifts of Brexit.john80 said:
Some of their pork rearing practices would make you want to check the origin label.darkhairedlord said:
Great, more vajitas and refried sick. At least we get access to some tequila...tailwindhome said:Aside from the obvious good news it's interesting to note the different messaging.
(On the face of it) No more outlandish claims about these roll over deals. Just calling the achievement for what it is
Any old stuff as long as it’s cheap.
I’m not saying Brexit has to be that way by it’s nature. Just that that is what is being sought by its proponents.
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In fairness it you get two or more takeaways a week then South and North American meat products are not going to be a significant issue for your overall health outcome. Nor are you likely to care about the country of origin.morstar said:
But isn’t this one of the gifts of Brexit.john80 said:
Some of their pork rearing practices would make you want to check the origin label.darkhairedlord said:
Great, more vajitas and refried sick. At least we get access to some tequila...tailwindhome said:Aside from the obvious good news it's interesting to note the different messaging.
(On the face of it) No more outlandish claims about these roll over deals. Just calling the achievement for what it is
Any old stuff as long as it’s cheap.
I’m not saying Brexit has to be that way by it’s nature. Just that that is what is being sought by its proponents.0 -
Who had Brexit down as the death of the OG Model railway?
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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ddraver said:
Who had Brexit down as the death of the OG Model railway?
It's all a bit of a train crash...0 -
It gives the answer to your question in the Guardian article which ddraver linked: 17,000.surrey_commuter said:
how many UK students use Erasmus each year?ddraver said:Can see no other reason for this than pure spite...
In more detail, this figure breaks down into nearly 10,000 students and over 7,000 trainees (interns/graduates). In addition there are about 3,500 British staff/lecturers who are also in Europe by virtue of Erasmus. So a total of just over 20,000.
In pure numbers of participants, the uptake of Erasmus opportunities by the French and Germans is about 3 times that of the Brits, and by the Spanish and Italians about 2½ times that of the Brits. Even the Poles and the Turks make slightly more use of Erasmus than the Brits (Turkey and 5 other countries, e.g. Iceland, are Erasmus-participating countries without being EU members).
The corresponding figure for those who come to the UK from abroad with Erasmus is around 37,000, so getting on to double the number of Brits who go abroad with Erasmus.
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This is nothing to do with Brexit, nothing bad has ever happened because of Brexit.briantrumpet said:ddraver said:Who had Brexit down as the death of the OG Model railway?
It's all a bit of a train crash...0 -
Hornby has a loyal following and come January when the terms are known the company will get its orders back. Pretty smart move for this type of specialist company to manage risk.ddraver said:Who had Brexit down as the death of the OG Model railway?
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If you can't be certain of getting a dispatch done and out of the country by the end of the year, it's understandable to not take the order. Not sure why it's all exports, must be their system.
They won't be the only website that won't take an order from the eu in the few days before the 31st.0 -
If they are not dispatching until january they might face a jump in transport costs, so natural to hold for a week until they know how much to bill or if they can absorb.kingstongraham said:If you can't be certain of getting a dispatch done and out of the country by the end of the year, it's understandable to not take the order. Not sure why it's all exports, must be their system.
They won't be the only website that won't take an order from the eu in the few days before the 31st.0 -
Regardless of deal or no deal they will be facing a big jump in transport costs.darkhairedlord said:
If they are not dispatching until january they might face a jump in transport costs, so natural to hold for a week until they know how much to bill or if they can absorb.kingstongraham said:If you can't be certain of getting a dispatch done and out of the country by the end of the year, it's understandable to not take the order. Not sure why it's all exports, must be their system.
They won't be the only website that won't take an order from the eu in the few days before the 31st.0 -
It's also very smart advertising as at least 1m remoaners will spread the brand 8 days before Xmas.john80 said:
Hornby has a loyal following and come January when the terms are known the company will get its orders back. Pretty smart move for this type of specialist company to manage risk.ddraver said:Who had Brexit down as the death of the OG Model railway?
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Yes, the market has moved in this sector all over the world world but some stupids, not you I may add, will use Brexit as blame.skyblueamateur said:
Regardless of deal or no deal they will be facing a big jump in transport costs.darkhairedlord said:
If they are not dispatching until january they might face a jump in transport costs, so natural to hold for a week until they know how much to bill or if they can absorb.kingstongraham said:If you can't be certain of getting a dispatch done and out of the country by the end of the year, it's understandable to not take the order. Not sure why it's all exports, must be their system.
They won't be the only website that won't take an order from the eu in the few days before the 31st.0 -
The price of containers from the Far East have quadrupled in price due to container shortages in China.coopster_the_1st said:
Yes, the market has moved in this sector all over the world world but some stupids, not you I may add, will use Brexit as blame.skyblueamateur said:
Regardless of deal or no deal they will be facing a big jump in transport costs.darkhairedlord said:
If they are not dispatching until january they might face a jump in transport costs, so natural to hold for a week until they know how much to bill or if they can absorb.kingstongraham said:If you can't be certain of getting a dispatch done and out of the country by the end of the year, it's understandable to not take the order. Not sure why it's all exports, must be their system.
They won't be the only website that won't take an order from the eu in the few days before the 31st.
Unfortunately, the movement of parcels and pallets to the continent from January is mainly Brexit related.
The price of a single box to ROI has trebled and a pallet now has a £50 surcharge on to cover the extra paperwork and customs clearances. Even with a FTA the amount of bureaucracy necessary is a big burden on businesses especially SME's. For all of the EU's many faults this is the massive advantage to exporters of the SM.0 -
Scaremongering has created profiteering.skyblueamateur said:
The price of containers from the Far East have quadrupled in price due to container shortages in China.coopster_the_1st said:
Yes, the market has moved in this sector all over the world world but some stupids, not you I may add, will use Brexit as blame.skyblueamateur said:
Regardless of deal or no deal they will be facing a big jump in transport costs.darkhairedlord said:
If they are not dispatching until january they might face a jump in transport costs, so natural to hold for a week until they know how much to bill or if they can absorb.kingstongraham said:If you can't be certain of getting a dispatch done and out of the country by the end of the year, it's understandable to not take the order. Not sure why it's all exports, must be their system.
They won't be the only website that won't take an order from the eu in the few days before the 31st.
Unfortunately, the movement of parcels and pallets to the continent from January is mainly Brexit related.
The price of a single box to ROI has trebled and a pallet now has a £50 surcharge on to cover the extra paperwork and customs clearances. Even with a FTA the amount of bureaucracy necessary is a big burden on businesses especially SME's. For all of the EU's many faults this is the massive advantage to exporters of the SM.
After speaking to someone directly affected over the weekend, it's the uncertainty that is gumming everything up. We should have gone No Deal at the beginning of December and removed this uncertainty. It would have done less damage and disruption-1 -
TBF mate, it's not profiteering. They're the same sets of charges and clearances we have paid when importing from any third party country. Paperwork comes at a cost. We are discovering that with the amount we are going to have to deal with to send to the EU. We've had to change our business model to bulk ship rather then individual orders because of the time consuming nature of the processes.coopster_the_1st said:
Scaremongering has created profiteering.skyblueamateur said:
The price of containers from the Far East have quadrupled in price due to container shortages in China.coopster_the_1st said:
Yes, the market has moved in this sector all over the world world but some stupids, not you I may add, will use Brexit as blame.skyblueamateur said:
Regardless of deal or no deal they will be facing a big jump in transport costs.darkhairedlord said:
If they are not dispatching until january they might face a jump in transport costs, so natural to hold for a week until they know how much to bill or if they can absorb.kingstongraham said:If you can't be certain of getting a dispatch done and out of the country by the end of the year, it's understandable to not take the order. Not sure why it's all exports, must be their system.
They won't be the only website that won't take an order from the eu in the few days before the 31st.
Unfortunately, the movement of parcels and pallets to the continent from January is mainly Brexit related.
The price of a single box to ROI has trebled and a pallet now has a £50 surcharge on to cover the extra paperwork and customs clearances. Even with a FTA the amount of bureaucracy necessary is a big burden on businesses especially SME's. For all of the EU's many faults this is the massive advantage to exporters of the SM.
After speaking to someone directly affected over the weekend, it's the uncertainty that is gumming everything up. We should have gone No Deal at the beginning of December and removed this uncertainty. It would have done less damage and disruption
I'm pragmatic now around the issue of deal or no deal. It is what it is.2 -
One thing Michael Gove has tried to do right is make clear that the majority of preparations required are consistent between no-deal and the deal that is now being aimed for.coopster_the_1st said:
Scaremongering has created profiteering.skyblueamateur said:
The price of containers from the Far East have quadrupled in price due to container shortages in China.coopster_the_1st said:
Yes, the market has moved in this sector all over the world world but some stupids, not you I may add, will use Brexit as blame.skyblueamateur said:
Regardless of deal or no deal they will be facing a big jump in transport costs.darkhairedlord said:
If they are not dispatching until january they might face a jump in transport costs, so natural to hold for a week until they know how much to bill or if they can absorb.kingstongraham said:If you can't be certain of getting a dispatch done and out of the country by the end of the year, it's understandable to not take the order. Not sure why it's all exports, must be their system.
They won't be the only website that won't take an order from the eu in the few days before the 31st.
Unfortunately, the movement of parcels and pallets to the continent from January is mainly Brexit related.
The price of a single box to ROI has trebled and a pallet now has a £50 surcharge on to cover the extra paperwork and customs clearances. Even with a FTA the amount of bureaucracy necessary is a big burden on businesses especially SME's. For all of the EU's many faults this is the massive advantage to exporters of the SM.
After speaking to someone directly affected over the weekend, it's the uncertainty that is gumming everything up. We should have gone No Deal at the beginning of December and removed this uncertainty. It would have done less damage and disruption
It's true that no deal might mean that some businesses have to change considerably to remain profitable, but that is not something that another two weeks in December would have made a big difference to. Certainly not enough difference to justify removing any chance of a deal happening.0 -
As I said above nothing bad was caused by Brexitjohn80 said:
Hornby has a loyal following and come January when the terms are known the company will get its orders back. Pretty smart move for this type of specialist company to manage risk.ddraver said:Who had Brexit down as the death of the OG Model railway?
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