BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Is this your usual level of inaccuracy or have we really slumped to 6th already?coopster_the_1st said:Sounds like UK based businesses are about to get another positive shot in the arm or businesses will relocate here to service the 6th biggest economy in the world.
Both of the above scenario leads to more much needed jobs for the UK economy.0 -
SHOCKED! SHOCKED I TELL YOU!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/brexit-prejudice-scientists-link-foreigners-immigrants-racism-xenophobia-leave-eu-a8078586.html?__twitter_impression=trueWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Yep I have been extorted by the Royal Mail before on packages from Thailand/USA where they have calculated the value and would not debate the issue. You pay or leave it thereStevo_666 said:
Effectively, yes. Needs to be aligned otherwise one group would get a competitive advantage. If you look at certain online market places where the same product is being offered by EU and non-EU suppliers there is often a price gap in favour of the non-EU sellers which closes up when you pay the UK VAT on arrival - typically the courier company takes the payment before releasing the goods to you.surrey_commuter said:
that govt link was too long to read and Twitter is just weird so am I right in thinking they are arguing over whether EU transactions will now be treated the same as non-EU transactions?tailwindhome said:
Something I've experienced for myself recently when importing from US and Japan.0 -
Yes and no depending on the industry. I would assume that to be the case in certain circumstances and would assume we will see a rise in fulfillment style warehouses.coopster_the_1st said:Sounds like UK based businesses are about to get another positive shot in the arm or businesses will relocate here to service the 6th biggest economy in the world.
Both of the above scenario leads to more much needed jobs for the UK economy.
Even if a business is located here if the product is imported it will still be subject to tariffs and customs clearance charges etc.
Works both ways though and we have a base in the EU. Whereas a lot of product was sent from the UK to the continent we are going to have to reverse that and send from the EU base.
As with all things there will be positives for some and negatives for others. It's how that balances out in the grand scheme of things.
Not being able to acknowledge any detrimental effects from Brexit frustrates me though as without doing this and mitigating for this it means that we won't be able to maximize any potential opportunities.
Now should be a time for the whole of the UK to be pulling together and the government regardless of deal or no deal should be listening more to business.2 -
Where art thou 'EU'?
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Watching and making notes like "Don't give it to people with severe allergies..."- Genesis Croix de Fer
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EU meeting to approve has been brought forward to Monday 21st December. Key difference is they are not doing an emergency use authorisation, they are doing a regular approval straight off.
It does feel a bit strange to prioritise the touchy feely needs of anti vaxxers when there isn't even enough vaccine for those that want it.0 -
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Got to love someone posting on one thread about how few vaccinations have been carried out in the UK and then on another how many vaccinations have been carried out in the UK.0
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JRM doing the whole pretending to walk away thing
Lol“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Successfully negotiated an Australia style deal I suspect.ddraver said:0 -
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(Source for former at negotiation level, no decision by politicians yet...)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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The shipping docs should state value.surrey_commuter said:
Yep I have been extorted by the Royal Mail before on packages from Thailand/USA where they have calculated the value and would not debate the issue. You pay or leave it thereStevo_666 said:
Effectively, yes. Needs to be aligned otherwise one group would get a competitive advantage. If you look at certain online market places where the same product is being offered by EU and non-EU suppliers there is often a price gap in favour of the non-EU sellers which closes up when you pay the UK VAT on arrival - typically the courier company takes the payment before releasing the goods to you.surrey_commuter said:
that govt link was too long to read and Twitter is just weird so am I right in thinking they are arguing over whether EU transactions will now be treated the same as non-EU transactions?tailwindhome said:
Something I've experienced for myself recently when importing from US and Japan."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I don't know how this is going to sound, but here it goes:
In my country, Portugal, there's an anecdote going around for some time now, which says:
"The Brexit Analogy"
A man in a hot air balloon realised he was lost.
After reducing the altitude a little, he saw a passerby below and shouted: "Sorry, can you help me? I arranged with a friend who would meet him an hour ago, but now I don't know where I am."
The man below replies: "I can try ... To start, you are hovering about 10m above the ground, then I would say that you should be somewhere between 40 and 41 degrees latitude north and maybe between 51 and 50 degrees degrees longitude west "
To which the balloon pilot responded with disdain: "You must be an engineer ..."
"I am" replied the man on the floor "How did you guess?"
"Well, everything you said to me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to do with that information and the fact is - I'm still lost man! Frankly, you're not helping me much ..." He replies angrily.
To which the man below replies: "You must be a brexiteer!"
"I am!" replied the pilot "How did you know?"
"Well, you don't know where you are or where you want to go, you decided to use a vehicle that doesn't allow an easy way of navigation, you made a promise that you have no idea how to maintain and now you expect me to solve your problem.
The fact is that you are in exactly the same position you were in before talking to me, but now in your eyes, it's my fault! "
Disclaimer: Please do not kill the messenger
I'm going to miss every bit of easiness from shopping at Amazon.co.uk 3 -
They did but customs can make their own decision with no right of appeal.Stevo_666 said:
The shipping docs should state value.surrey_commuter said:
Yep I have been extorted by the Royal Mail before on packages from Thailand/USA where they have calculated the value and would not debate the issue. You pay or leave it thereStevo_666 said:
Effectively, yes. Needs to be aligned otherwise one group would get a competitive advantage. If you look at certain online market places where the same product is being offered by EU and non-EU suppliers there is often a price gap in favour of the non-EU sellers which closes up when you pay the UK VAT on arrival - typically the courier company takes the payment before releasing the goods to you.surrey_commuter said:
that govt link was too long to read and Twitter is just weird so am I right in thinking they are arguing over whether EU transactions will now be treated the same as non-EU transactions?tailwindhome said:
Something I've experienced for myself recently when importing from US and Japan.
For transparency one was a suit from Thailand and Customs were correct in their valuation rather than the one stated on the docs.
The other was an item left in the USA that customs put a ransom demand on.0 -
You can appeal but its probably not worth it for the amounts involved in our transactions: see section 2surrey_commuter said:
They did but customs can make their own decision with no right of appeal.Stevo_666 said:
The shipping docs should state value.surrey_commuter said:
Yep I have been extorted by the Royal Mail before on packages from Thailand/USA where they have calculated the value and would not debate the issue. You pay or leave it thereStevo_666 said:
Effectively, yes. Needs to be aligned otherwise one group would get a competitive advantage. If you look at certain online market places where the same product is being offered by EU and non-EU suppliers there is often a price gap in favour of the non-EU sellers which closes up when you pay the UK VAT on arrival - typically the courier company takes the payment before releasing the goods to you.surrey_commuter said:
that govt link was too long to read and Twitter is just weird so am I right in thinking they are arguing over whether EU transactions will now be treated the same as non-EU transactions?tailwindhome said:
Something I've experienced for myself recently when importing from US and Japan.
For transparency one was a suit from Thailand and Customs were correct in their valuation rather than the one stated on the docs.
The other was an item left in the USA that customs put a ransom demand on.
https://gov.uk/government/publications/notice-252-valuation-of-imported-goods-for-customs-purposes-vat-and-trade-statistics/notice-252-valuation-of-imported-goods-for-customs-purposes-vat-and-trade-statistics
To be fair, I've been charged exactly the right amount in both of my recent imports (FedEx in both cases)."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo_666 said:
You can appeal but its probably not worth it for the amounts involved in our transactions: see section 2surrey_commuter said:
They did but customs can make their own decision with no right of appeal.Stevo_666 said:
The shipping docs should state value.surrey_commuter said:
Yep I have been extorted by the Royal Mail before on packages from Thailand/USA where they have calculated the value and would not debate the issue. You pay or leave it thereStevo_666 said:
Effectively, yes. Needs to be aligned otherwise one group would get a competitive advantage. If you look at certain online market places where the same product is being offered by EU and non-EU suppliers there is often a price gap in favour of the non-EU sellers which closes up when you pay the UK VAT on arrival - typically the courier company takes the payment before releasing the goods to you.surrey_commuter said:
that govt link was too long to read and Twitter is just weird so am I right in thinking they are arguing over whether EU transactions will now be treated the same as non-EU transactions?tailwindhome said:
Something I've experienced for myself recently when importing from US and Japan.
For transparency one was a suit from Thailand and Customs were correct in their valuation rather than the one stated on the docs.
The other was an item left in the USA that customs put a ransom demand on.
https://gov.uk/government/publications/notice-252-valuation-of-imported-goods-for-customs-purposes-vat-and-trade-statistics/notice-252-valuation-of-imported-goods-for-customs-purposes-vat-and-trade-statistics
To be fair, I've been charged exactly the right amount in both of my recent imports (FedEx in both cases).
To be fair, I suspect they have to be permanently sceptical, as people will try to hoodwink them frequently... including a trombonist friend who travelled to NY with an empty trombone case to bring back a fancy new trombone. When he claimed it cost $xxx, they whipped out a price list they had on file, charged him the full duty, and gave him a fine as well.0 -
I’ve paid all sorts of duty charges on second hand volkswagen parts from the US. It doesn’t matter if it comes as marked as a sample or gift it still get taxed and also attracts an admin fee of about £8.00.
Challenging is generally a waste of time and is pointless on what are in essence folly purchases.
2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0 -
It's their job.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
You can appeal but its probably not worth it for the amounts involved in our transactions: see section 2surrey_commuter said:
They did but customs can make their own decision with no right of appeal.Stevo_666 said:
The shipping docs should state value.surrey_commuter said:
Yep I have been extorted by the Royal Mail before on packages from Thailand/USA where they have calculated the value and would not debate the issue. You pay or leave it thereStevo_666 said:
Effectively, yes. Needs to be aligned otherwise one group would get a competitive advantage. If you look at certain online market places where the same product is being offered by EU and non-EU suppliers there is often a price gap in favour of the non-EU sellers which closes up when you pay the UK VAT on arrival - typically the courier company takes the payment before releasing the goods to you.surrey_commuter said:
that govt link was too long to read and Twitter is just weird so am I right in thinking they are arguing over whether EU transactions will now be treated the same as non-EU transactions?tailwindhome said:
Something I've experienced for myself recently when importing from US and Japan.
For transparency one was a suit from Thailand and Customs were correct in their valuation rather than the one stated on the docs.
The other was an item left in the USA that customs put a ransom demand on.
https://gov.uk/government/publications/notice-252-valuation-of-imported-goods-for-customs-purposes-vat-and-trade-statistics/notice-252-valuation-of-imported-goods-for-customs-purposes-vat-and-trade-statistics
To be fair, I've been charged exactly the right amount in both of my recent imports (FedEx in both cases).
To be fair, I suspect they have to be permanently sceptical, as people will try to hoodwink them frequently... including a trombonist friend who travelled to NY with an empty trombone case to bring back a fancy new trombone. When he claimed it cost $xxx, they whipped out a price list they had on file, charged him the full duty, and gave him a fine as well.
The old trick of undervaluing used to be rife - remembering when I was into track days and used to import car parts from Japan, most of them used to put silly low values on the shipment. These days most play by the rules it seems as both exporters I bought from recently said up front that they declare full value for customs/import purposes (possibly also linked to the insurance needed for the goods - fair point as if they had gone astray in transit that might have caused a problem: these were small size/relatively high value items). Not that it mattered as I'd already priced it in and they were still a good buy."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo_666 said:
It's their job.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
You can appeal but its probably not worth it for the amounts involved in our transactions: see section 2surrey_commuter said:
They did but customs can make their own decision with no right of appeal.Stevo_666 said:
The shipping docs should state value.surrey_commuter said:
Yep I have been extorted by the Royal Mail before on packages from Thailand/USA where they have calculated the value and would not debate the issue. You pay or leave it thereStevo_666 said:
Effectively, yes. Needs to be aligned otherwise one group would get a competitive advantage. If you look at certain online market places where the same product is being offered by EU and non-EU suppliers there is often a price gap in favour of the non-EU sellers which closes up when you pay the UK VAT on arrival - typically the courier company takes the payment before releasing the goods to you.surrey_commuter said:
that govt link was too long to read and Twitter is just weird so am I right in thinking they are arguing over whether EU transactions will now be treated the same as non-EU transactions?tailwindhome said:
Something I've experienced for myself recently when importing from US and Japan.
For transparency one was a suit from Thailand and Customs were correct in their valuation rather than the one stated on the docs.
The other was an item left in the USA that customs put a ransom demand on.
https://gov.uk/government/publications/notice-252-valuation-of-imported-goods-for-customs-purposes-vat-and-trade-statistics/notice-252-valuation-of-imported-goods-for-customs-purposes-vat-and-trade-statistics
To be fair, I've been charged exactly the right amount in both of my recent imports (FedEx in both cases).
To be fair, I suspect they have to be permanently sceptical, as people will try to hoodwink them frequently... including a trombonist friend who travelled to NY with an empty trombone case to bring back a fancy new trombone. When he claimed it cost $xxx, they whipped out a price list they had on file, charged him the full duty, and gave him a fine as well.
The old trick of undervaluing used to be rife - remembering when I was into track days and used to import car parts from Japan, most of them used to put silly low values on the shipment. These days most play by the rules it seems as both exporters I bought from recently said up front that they declare full value for customs/import purposes (possibly also linked to the insurance needed for the goods - fair point as if they had gone astray in transit that might have caused a problem: these were small size/relatively high value items). Not that it mattered as I'd already priced it in and they were still a good buy.
Indeed. And I can see why they include shipping, so that that's not used to lower the item cost. I still think it's rich to put VAT on the import duty though.0 -
Easier to do with jewellery - just wear itbriantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
You can appeal but its probably not worth it for the amounts involved in our transactions: see section 2surrey_commuter said:
They did but customs can make their own decision with no right of appeal.Stevo_666 said:
The shipping docs should state value.surrey_commuter said:
Yep I have been extorted by the Royal Mail before on packages from Thailand/USA where they have calculated the value and would not debate the issue. You pay or leave it thereStevo_666 said:
Effectively, yes. Needs to be aligned otherwise one group would get a competitive advantage. If you look at certain online market places where the same product is being offered by EU and non-EU suppliers there is often a price gap in favour of the non-EU sellers which closes up when you pay the UK VAT on arrival - typically the courier company takes the payment before releasing the goods to you.surrey_commuter said:
that govt link was too long to read and Twitter is just weird so am I right in thinking they are arguing over whether EU transactions will now be treated the same as non-EU transactions?tailwindhome said:
Something I've experienced for myself recently when importing from US and Japan.
For transparency one was a suit from Thailand and Customs were correct in their valuation rather than the one stated on the docs.
The other was an item left in the USA that customs put a ransom demand on.
https://gov.uk/government/publications/notice-252-valuation-of-imported-goods-for-customs-purposes-vat-and-trade-statistics/notice-252-valuation-of-imported-goods-for-customs-purposes-vat-and-trade-statistics
To be fair, I've been charged exactly the right amount in both of my recent imports (FedEx in both cases).
To be fair, I suspect they have to be permanently sceptical, as people will try to hoodwink them frequently... including a trombonist friend who travelled to NY with an empty trombone case to bring back a fancy new trombone. When he claimed it cost $xxx, they whipped out a price list they had on file, charged him the full duty, and gave him a fine as well.0 -
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Any chance of those words being joined together into coherent sentences? It looks like someone has just spilled random words into a Tweet.rick_chasey said:1 -
Macron tests positive for Covid.1
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The French are again late to the party...kingstongraham said:Macron tests positive for Covid.
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Barnier got in first though.coopster_the_1st said:
The French are again late to the party...kingstongraham said:Macron tests positive for Covid.
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How is a man of his age still alive after catching it?kingstongraham said:
Barnier got in first though.coopster_the_1st said:
The French are again late to the party...kingstongraham said:Macron tests positive for Covid.
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That is how Twitter works, the only thing unusual in this case is that it is not a random person spilling random wordsPross said:
Any chnce of those words being joined together into coherent sentences? It looks like someone has just spilled random words into a Tweet.rick_chasey said:0
