Transfers 2016 : Rumours and fact

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  • LeePaton
    LeePaton Posts: 353
    Yes, correct, Dan Martin paved his way on the macadam of France. He was a black sheep for the BC clean cut boys. Of which there are a few as you know, who have ripped it up on the road scene.
    (btw, BC = SKY)

    Probably easier to reject a life on the track when your uncle is Stephen Roche and can get you into VC La Pomme though. I know where I'd rather learn my trade

    That doesn't fit with the heroic story though so shhhh. Trek would be a good move for him i feel plenty opportunities in the ardennes.
    It's not so much about winning, I just hate losing.
  • Yes, correct, Dan Martin paved his way on the macadam of France. He was a black sheep for the BC clean cut boys. Of which there are a few as you know, who have ripped it up on the road scene.
    (btw, BC = SKY)


    Really? :shock:
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Would love to see Dan attack the classics with QS support.

    Would be a great match.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Would love to see Dan attack the classics with QS support.

    Would be a great match.


    He can be a chopsy stubborn piece. If he goes Quickstepping, probably better with someone like Brian Holm as his DS than Peeters.
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Would love to see Dan attack the classics with QS support.

    Would be a great match.


    He can be a chopsy stubborn piece. If he goes Quickstepping, probably better with someone like Brian Holm as his DS than Peeters.

    Agreed. And he might replace his black handlebar tape with white.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Turned down Sky. Definitely will not be dropped from my list for 2015. They didn't want him before as he didn't learn his trade in an easy, scientific, air-conditioned environment but they want him now after he has shown how wrong they were again.

    Really pleased he will leave that rubbish team. He has given them far more then they have given him.

    According to who?
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    Love the suggestion that Sky is an 'easy' environment.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Will Roche stay with Sky or was his just a one year deal?
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Will Roche stay with Sky or was his just a one year deal?


    It was a one-year contract IIRC but pretty sure he'll be getting an extension. He's popular there, valued as a road captain, and he seems pretty happy.
  • Brian Smith ruling out MTN as a destination for Cav on the Eneco coverage today

    "We're a second division team, we cant' afford his wages"

    Seemed to be strongly suggesting Trek.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    Assume Cav would want to take Renshaw with him as well?

    I reckon Trek would like to see him on a Madone rather than a Venge as well.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • menthel
    menthel Posts: 2,484
    Assume Cav would want to take Renshaw with him as well?

    I reckon Trek would like to see him on a Madone rather than a Venge as well.

    Not sure about Renshaw- Cav has had a few pops at him this season when he felt he was hung out to dry needing to sprint from too far out.
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  • Brian Smith ruling out MTN as a destination for Cav on the Eneco coverage today

    "We're a second division team, we cant' afford his wages"

    Seemed to be strongly suggesting Trek.

    Why would he want to go to Trek? That's a ridiculous move. Trek are crap!
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    Brian Smith ruling out MTN as a destination for Cav on the Eneco coverage today

    "We're a second division team, we cant' afford his wages"

    Seemed to be strongly suggesting Trek.

    Why would he want to go to Trek? That's a ridiculous move. Trek are crap!

    I'm not sure he's in a position at this stage in his career to take his pick of teams.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • I'm not sure he's in a position at this stage in his career to take his pick of teams.

    He's 30 not 50. He still won a stage this year and he's worth more than Trek. I just don't see it - it doesn't feel like the right move.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Modolo:
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    I'm not sure he's in a position at this stage in his career to take his pick of teams.

    He's 30 not 50. He still won a stage this year and he's worth more than Trek. I just don't see it - it doesn't feel like the right move.

    Agreed, but he's probably not the 5 stages a year rider he was either.

    So where does he go?
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • I'm not sure he's in a position at this stage in his career to take his pick of teams.

    He's 30 not 50. He still won a stage this year and he's worth more than Trek. I just don't see it - it doesn't feel like the right move.

    Agreed, but he's probably not the 5 stages a year rider he was either.

    So where does he go?

    Agreed.

    I haven't got an answer for you. I know he wants to stay at OPQS, but the reality is that they just won't dedicate themselves to being a sprint team and that's really what he needs. The obvious teams already have riders as good or better. A new Team (as in new to the sport) would be lovely, but that's unlikely.

    Personally, I wonder what his plans are for the future. How many years does he believe he has left in him as a Tier 1 sprinter? Will he retire or change his riding style to have another focus?
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    I'm not sure he's in a position at this stage in his career to take his pick of teams.

    He's 30 not 50. He still won a stage this year and he's worth more than Trek. I just don't see it - it doesn't feel like the right move.

    Agreed, but he's probably not the 5 stages a year rider he was either.

    So where does he go?

    Agreed.

    I haven't got an answer for you. I know he wants to stay at OPQS, but the reality is that they just won't dedicate themselves to being a sprint team and that's really what he needs. The obvious teams already have riders as good or better.

    Personally, I wonder what his plans are for the future. How many years does he believe he has left in him as a Tier 1 sprinter? Will he retire or change his riding style to have another focus?

    With you there. It feels like Lefevre has lost faith (although I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign for another year). There's the Rio question looking as well and that's going to interrupt any tilt at tour stages surely.

    We can assume he's ok financially but like you I don't see where he goes if he wants a team built around him.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • LeePaton
    LeePaton Posts: 353
    Now would be a good time for Cav to have a crack at PR... I think he could do very well allowing for luck along the way.

    He won't get anywhere near it at OPQS however so being a second option at Trek may be a reason. Especially if they let him have a crack at Rio.
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  • LeePaton wrote:
    Now would be a good time for Cav to have a crack at PR... I think he could do very well allowing for luck along the way.

    He won't get anywhere near it at OPQS however so being a second option at Trek may be a reason. Especially if they let him have a crack at Rio.

    He'd be about 4th option at Trek next year behind Cancellara, Devolder, Theuns, Stuyvens
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Lots of rumours of riders going to Trek, but don't they have one of the smaller budgets around with Cancellara chewing up the lions share of budget...

    Ten Dam out of Jumbo, maybe to Garmindale.
  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,798
    I guess Cav could consider a one year deal somewhere with a team that might pay less but allow him the freedom to compete in Rio with real commitment. Might do him good to take a year with a very different focus?

    People had written Griepel off and look what a tour he had.
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  • Lots of rumours of riders going to Trek, but don't they have one of the smaller budgets around with Cancellara chewing up the lions share of budget...

    Ten Dam out of Jumbo, maybe to Garmindale.

    Be a good move for him that. If there's a team for a jack off all trades climber to thrive on its Garmindale with their unconventional approach to tactics.
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    Surely Cavendish won't get a look in for the omnium with Clancy around? Or will clancy be told to focus on the team persuit?

    Either way Canvendish's poor showing at the tour lends more to the thinking that you're paying for a reputation built 3-8 years ago than for a current top sprinter. He'll cost far more than results alone will justify paying.
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  • Surely Cavendish won't get a look in for the omnium with Clancy around? Or will clancy be told to focus on the team persuit?

    Either way Canvendish's poor showing at the tour lends more to the thinking that you're paying for a reputation built 3-8 years ago than for a current top sprinter. He'll cost far more than results alone will justify paying.

    But he's great for sponsors though. He guarantees publicity, he'll do the promotional stuff and he's good in a team environment (assuming you want somebody to constantly drive improvement on your riding staff).

    Re the Omnium, I don't think it's a goer unless he really dedicates next year to it. He was pretty poor at the Gent 6 days, although they did win Geneva the next week.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Surely Cavendish won't get a look in for the omnium with Clancy around? Or will clancy be told to focus on the team persuit?

    Either way Canvendish's poor showing at the tour lends more to the thinking that you're paying for a reputation built 3-8 years ago than for a current top sprinter. He'll cost far more than results alone will justify paying.
    The way Shane Sutton has been talking it would seem that the omnium spot is open for him if he does what is required. Every time Clancy mentions it he gives the impression that he'd rather not bother with it.
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  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Either way Canvendish's poor showing at the tour lends more to the thinking that you're paying for a reputation built 3-8 years ago than for a current top sprinter. He'll cost far more than results alone will justify paying.

    What counts as top these days?

    He's a top 3 sprinter in anyone's book, Kittel and then Cav/Greipel. Cav's 30 and Greipel 33 so age isn't an argument in the current "top bracket" either.
  • Surely Cavendish won't get a look in for the omnium with Clancy around? Or will clancy be told to focus on the team persuit?

    If Viviani can podium at the this years World Champs I would say Cav has a great chance for the Omnium. Maybe he'll take a year out as he does not need the money.

    It's a long shot but could he end up riding for Team Wiggins next season if he needs to concentrate solely on the track? He won't be able to ride the TdF if he is concentrating on the track :idea: