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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Yeah funnily enough a flu pandemic during a period where most of the doctors were either dead or out fighting and when there was no such thing as respirators meant the deaths were higher.

    Out of interest do you know why it’s called the Spanish flu?

    Because Spain wasn’t fighting and had a free press at the time.

    French, Brits etc all suppressed it as it was not helpful for the war effort.
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    It seems the Covid19 Virus has spread to the Irony thread, with disastrous consequences.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    Is it too late to isolate it?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,496
    The Spanish Flu originating in Kansas.
    Not ironic, more conveniently named.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,521
    rick_chasey said:

    Yeah funnily enough a flu pandemic during a period where most of the doctors were either dead or out fighting and when there was no such thing as respirators meant the deaths were higher.

    Out of interest do you know why it’s called the Spanish flu?

    Because Spain wasn’t fighting and had a free press at the time.

    French, Brits etc all suppressed it as it was not helpful for the war effort.

    [far too late]

    However, at the time, people did not have the communications that we have nowadays. Few people had cars and few people travelled for holidays. There were trains but that didn't connect the world globally. Plus the global population at the time was approx. 1.9bn. In that context, the Spanish flu must have been very virulent.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029
    The lecture by Chris Whitty which was posted in another thread talked about the Spanish flu. The reduced levels of transport merely slowed the spread rather than preventing it from spreading. Also, whilst there is more transport today, there are some mitigates such as better sanitation.
  • fatted864
    fatted864 Posts: 67
    I think there is very questionable data around CV 19, number of reported cases directly relates to number of tests, and does anyone really believe that China only had three thousand odd dead? I suspect it is way more than that.
  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228


    Irony...
  • Charlie_Croker
    Charlie_Croker Posts: 1,727
    pinno said:

    There were trains but that didn't connect the world globally. Plus the global population at the time was approx. 1.9bn. In that context, the Spanish flu must have been very virulent.


    The world had come together in Europe to fight in WWI afterwards they went home, taking their little uninvited friends with them - today the world has many more connections
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,521
    Charlie_Croker said:

    pinno said:

    There were trains but that didn't connect the world globally. Plus the global population at the time was approx. 1.9bn. In that context, the Spanish flu must have been very virulent.


    The world had come together in Europe to fight in WWI afterwards they went home, taking their little uninvited friends with them - today the world has many more connections
    I'm not quite sure what you mean. My point was that despite the speed and volume of communication of today, the Spanish flu must have been highly virulent, more so than CV19.
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  • Charlie_Croker
    Charlie_Croker Posts: 1,727
    pinno said:

    My point was that despite the speed and volume of communication of today, the Spanish flu must have been highly virulent, more so than CV19.

    I’m not a virologist, but I’ve seen no evidence to suggest that Covid-19 is more virulent than H1-N1. However the fact there are more of us today and communication is more widespread/quicker than in 1918 cannot be ignored, as you point out
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,496
    Apple employees cannot use Apple products to develop Apple products.

    "Apple normally requires all of its employees to work in-office and places a high value on in-person meetings and communications. While people are working from home, Apple encourages them to use Apple-designed tools like FaceTime and iCloud Drive for security purposes, but tools like Slack, WebEx, and Box are permitted as Apple employees have not found it easy to work with Apple's own apps due to their consumer rather than enterprise focus."
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  • fatted864
    fatted864 Posts: 67
    Charlie_Croker said:

    pinno said:

    My point was that despite the speed and volume of communication of today, the Spanish flu must have been highly virulent, more so than CV19.

    I’m not a virologist, but I’ve seen no evidence to suggest that Covid-19 is more virulent than H1-N1. However the fact there are more of us today and communication is more widespread/quicker than in 1918 cannot be ignored, as you point out
    Ro of COVID 19 is much higher than H1N1
  • Charlie_Croker
    Charlie_Croker Posts: 1,727
    fatted864 said:

    Ro of COVID 19 is much higher than H1N1

    and the relative numbers/values are?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660


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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 16,004
    Apples and oranges.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 16,004
    I suppose there is a link insofar that both measures were implemented on the grounds of public safety, rightly or wrongly.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    TBH, it’s a tenuous link Rick.
    Banks ban crash helmets and yet security guards come in with them on.
    That doesn’t justify banning the veil (that’s a whole different topic) but your connection between the two issues is not valid imho.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,825
    rick_chasey said:


    That's good self-awareness Rick...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:


    That's good self-awareness Rick...
    Couldn't help thinking of...

    https://youtu.be/lA5UqUyFmT0
  • Charlie_Croker
    Charlie_Croker Posts: 1,727
    morstar said:

    TBH, it’s a tenuous link Rick.
    Banks ban crash helmets and yet security guards come in with them on.
    That doesn’t justify banning the veil (that’s a whole different topic) but your connection between the two issues is not valid imho.

    OT: either way it's a robbers delight

    robber?

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Ah, the ol' niqab - bank robber vibe.
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    rick_chasey said:

    Ah, the ol' niqab - bank robber vibe.

    You’re making some gargantuan mental leaps.
    Name me a better example of headwear having different levels of acceptance in different circumstances.
  • Charlie_Croker
    Charlie_Croker Posts: 1,727
    طربوش‎ Fez Tarbush ? [whatever you want to call it] is one example innit


    Just Like That

    just like that!
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    morstar said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Ah, the ol' niqab - bank robber vibe.

    You’re making some gargantuan mental leaps.
    Name me a better example of headwear having different levels of acceptance in different circumstances.
    Men and women wearing a hat to church
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Was thinking more in terms of prescribed behaviour than social norms.
    But nonetheless, this could get quite amusing with a looser definition. As evidenced already.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 16,004
    Women wearing a 'Dutch cap'?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    A swimming hat in the office would be viewed very differently to one worn in the public swimming pool.
    The same could be said for speedos but we should probably stick with head gear

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