The Irony Thread

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  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    morstar said:

    shortfall said:

    Following the Brexit vote it was sickening to see and hear people wishing death on the older generations who were seen to be to blame for the Leave vote. Roll on a few short months and all these @rseholes are suddenly rowing back now they think their parents and grandparents might die from Covid19.

    Did that happen on here?
    There was a comment about wishing somebody dead in relation to Brexit but it didn’t fit the above.
    Unless they’re the same people, it’s a bit irrelevant really. Just confirms some people are pretty nasty.
    Pretty sure it was said on here but I'm not going to trawl through 1000s of posts to check. It was definitely repeated in spades on Twitter and social media. A notable example was by Terry Christian who tried to resile from wishing for a virulent strain of flu this winter when challenged by Piers Morgan.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 16,004
    I certainly remember such comments and I remember calling people out on it.
    There were also numerous comments hoping for a harsh winter to kill off the elderly.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    I certainly remember such comments and I remember calling people out on it.
    There were also numerous comments hoping for a harsh winter to kill off the elderly.

    Diddums. It’s almost like they were joking
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 16,004

    I certainly remember such comments and I remember calling people out on it.
    There were also numerous comments hoping for a harsh winter to kill off the elderly.

    Diddums. It’s almost like they were joking
    Were they? Were you one of them, I honestly can't remember if you were or not.
    But would probably explain why you're in recruitment rather than on the telly.
    Go on then, give us all a laugh with your renowned sense of humour. Give us a gag about Pross' family loss.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599
    Meh, she'd have had a chuckle about it to be fair (and was a rabid remainer anyway!).
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    I certainly remember such comments and I remember calling people out on it.
    There were also numerous comments hoping for a harsh winter to kill off the elderly.

    Diddums. It’s almost like they were joking
    Were they? Were you one of them, I honestly can't remember if you were or not.
    But would probably explain why you're in recruitment rather than on the telly.
    Go on then, give us all a laugh with your renowned sense of humour. Give us a gag about Pross' family loss.
    I think everyone recognises, indeed the poster who brought it up recognises, that when a harsh winter was brought up it was in jest since, if it wasn’t, the same people who said it would be pleased about corona and they plainly aren’t.

    It’s just another one side taking offence to another in the culture wars, and if you are *actually* offended by it you ought to strap on a pair.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    TBH, if it did happen it wasn’t me. I always said it was flawed logic anyway. If you assume people shift to a certain mindset as they age, then as they are dying, they are being replaced by new people with the same mindset. More in fact.
    I am however hoping my parents do survive with 0 hypocrisy.
    But we do need to be careful to distinguish between black humour and offensive views.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 16,004
    edited March 2020
    Not offended at all either on my own or either someone else's behalf. I leave that to you SJWs. I have said and laughed at stuff that no doubt others would have the vapours over.
    The point with the stuff said in the Brexit thread is that it was said by people painting the Leave voters as universally nasty, hence my calling them out on it because in some cases it was certainly not clearly in jest.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    I don’t think anyone called Brexiters universally nasty, nor has anyone made out that bring nasty is exclusive to Brexiters.

    I think Brexit has unleashed some nasty stuff on the far right but that doesn’t bother you too much.
  • There's some extreme social distancing going on by posters on this forum since Shortfall called out certain members of the LMS brigade
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    There's some extreme social distancing going on by posters on this forum since Shortfall called out certain members of the LMS brigade

    I’m glad you’re illustrating my point that you don’t really know what words mean.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 16,004

    I don’t think anyone called Brexiters universally nasty, nor has anyone made out that bring nasty is exclusive to Brexiters.

    I think Brexit has unleashed some nasty stuff on the far right but that doesn’t bother you too much.

    Nasty stuff is nasty stuff wherever it's source. I find it equally odious wherever it eminates.
    Why should I think otherwise?
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    edited March 2020

    There's some extreme social distancing going on by posters on this forum since Shortfall called out certain members of the LMS brigade

    You specifically did wish people dead with regard to Brexit thread. A la shortfall, I am not going to bother trawling for the post but you have no high ground here.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 16,004
    morstar said:

    TBH, if it did happen it wasn’t me. I always said it was flawed logic anyway. If you assume people shift to a certain mindset as they age, then as they are dying, they are being replaced by new people with the same mindset. More in fact.
    I am however hoping my parents do survive with 0 hypocrisy.
    But we do need to be careful to distinguish between black humour and offensive views.

    No problem at all with dark humour. Darker is often funnier. After every disaster dark jokes emerge very quickly and are usually very funny.
    Not all the stuff in the Brexit thread was meant in jest.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    morstar said:

    TBH, if it did happen it wasn’t me. I always said it was flawed logic anyway. If you assume people shift to a certain mindset as they age, then as they are dying, they are being replaced by new people with the same mindset. More in fact.
    I am however hoping my parents do survive with 0 hypocrisy.
    But we do need to be careful to distinguish between black humour and offensive views.

    No problem at all with dark humour. Darker is often funnier. After every disaster dark jokes emerge very quickly and are usually very funny.
    Not all the stuff in the Brexit thread was meant in jest.
    I’d agree. I am sure we all get exasperated with views we find frustrating. I do. But it doesn’t excuse deliberate offence.
    Although some do play that both ways.
    Poke, poke, poke, cry to mummy.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    morstar said:

    TBH, if it did happen it wasn’t me. I always said it was flawed logic anyway. If you assume people shift to a certain mindset as they age, then as they are dying, they are being replaced by new people with the same mindset. More in fact.
    I am however hoping my parents do survive with 0 hypocrisy.
    But we do need to be careful to distinguish between black humour and offensive views.

    I think it is more that their mindset stays the same and society changes around them. I really do not think i will become racist and or xenophobic just because I get older. However I think the whole trans and 57 different genders is a crock of sh1te, to the yoof this makes me a bigoted dinosaur who does not get it.

    In 20 years time my accusers will be denounced for not getting the latest issue that the current yoof will have adopted as their cause Celebre
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    morstar said:

    TBH, if it did happen it wasn’t me. I always said it was flawed logic anyway. If you assume people shift to a certain mindset as they age, then as they are dying, they are being replaced by new people with the same mindset. More in fact.
    I am however hoping my parents do survive with 0 hypocrisy.
    But we do need to be careful to distinguish between black humour and offensive views.

    I think it is more that their mindset stays the same and society changes around them. I really do not think i will become racist and or xenophobic just because I get older. However I think the whole trans and 57 different genders is a crock of sh1te, to the yoof this makes me a bigoted dinosaur who does not get it.

    In 20 years time my accusers will be denounced for not getting the latest issue that the current yoof will have adopted as their cause Celebre
    I agree to an extent but I think it’s both directions.
    I think elders move towards a more simplistic view that fits their own comprehension whilst simultaneously the world typically moves in the opposite direction (in western democracies at least).
    Although this is opinion based on no firm foundations. I do think the Brexit old age thing was too simplistic though.
    Maybe we should have thread on subject.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 16,004

    morstar said:

    TBH, if it did happen it wasn’t me. I always said it was flawed logic anyway. If you assume people shift to a certain mindset as they age, then as they are dying, they are being replaced by new people with the same mindset. More in fact.
    I am however hoping my parents do survive with 0 hypocrisy.
    But we do need to be careful to distinguish between black humour and offensive views.

    I think it is more that their mindset stays the same and society changes around them. I really do not think i will become racist and or xenophobic just because I get older. However I think the whole trans and 57 different genders is a crock of sh1te, to the yoof this makes me a bigoted dinosaur who does not get it.

    In 20 years time my accusers will be denounced for not getting the latest issue that the current yoof will have adopted as their cause Celebre
    I too (or should that be #me too) regard it to be self evident as a crock of sh1te, but I know I am a bigot because the resident SJW tells me so.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,273
    Que es LMS?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    orraloon said:

    Que es LMS?

    In CS people make up their own acronyms. Not knowing what they mean does not matter, you just need to know it is childish dig.

    eg I have no idea what SJW means but think it is intended to be a dig at Rick.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    morstar said:

    morstar said:

    TBH, if it did happen it wasn’t me. I always said it was flawed logic anyway. If you assume people shift to a certain mindset as they age, then as they are dying, they are being replaced by new people with the same mindset. More in fact.
    I am however hoping my parents do survive with 0 hypocrisy.
    But we do need to be careful to distinguish between black humour and offensive views.

    I think it is more that their mindset stays the same and society changes around them. I really do not think i will become racist and or xenophobic just because I get older. However I think the whole trans and 57 different genders is a crock of sh1te, to the yoof this makes me a bigoted dinosaur who does not get it.

    In 20 years time my accusers will be denounced for not getting the latest issue that the current yoof will have adopted as their cause Celebre
    I agree to an extent but I think it’s both directions.
    I think elders move towards a more simplistic view that fits their own comprehension whilst simultaneously the world typically moves in the opposite direction (in western democracies at least).
    Although this is opinion based on no firm foundations. I do think the Brexit old age thing was too simplistic though.
    Maybe we should have thread on subject.
    What is the simplistic Brexit old age thing.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,273
    Ooh game on. Let me guess.

    Large Medium Small
    London Midland Scottish
    Lovely melon squidgies
    Largely meaningless sh1te
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    With reference to the weeks feeling like months when looking back, anybody remember Rick’s rumour that Boris had been caught playing away and Carrie had given him a black eye.

    That disappearance was Feb 15-27th.

    Good job nothing important was happening that needed his full and undivided attention
  • orraloon said:

    Que es LMS?

    Losers Mentality Squad
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,273
    Think I prefer Largely Meaningless Sh1te.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    morstar said:

    morstar said:

    TBH, if it did happen it wasn’t me. I always said it was flawed logic anyway. If you assume people shift to a certain mindset as they age, then as they are dying, they are being replaced by new people with the same mindset. More in fact.
    I am however hoping my parents do survive with 0 hypocrisy.
    But we do need to be careful to distinguish between black humour and offensive views.

    I think it is more that their mindset stays the same and society changes around them. I really do not think i will become racist and or xenophobic just because I get older. However I think the whole trans and 57 different genders is a crock of sh1te, to the yoof this makes me a bigoted dinosaur who does not get it.

    In 20 years time my accusers will be denounced for not getting the latest issue that the current yoof will have adopted as their cause Celebre
    I agree to an extent but I think it’s both directions.
    I think elders move towards a more simplistic view that fits their own comprehension whilst simultaneously the world typically moves in the opposite direction (in western democracies at least).
    Although this is opinion based on no firm foundations. I do think the Brexit old age thing was too simplistic though.
    Maybe we should have thread on subject.
    What is the simplistic Brexit old age thing.
    The idea that a 2nd Brexit vote would reverse the decision due to the deaths of a proportion of elder leave voters and their replacement by remain voting teenagers.
    I felt this was a flawed (too simplistic) assumption.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,521
    FWIW, the current death toll of the Corona virus in the UK is 0.00158% of the population. (assuming a population of 66m).
    I doubt that would change any vote unless it affected a member of the Stoneybridge Community Council.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,831

    orraloon said:

    Que es LMS?

    In CS people make up their own acronyms. Not knowing what they mean does not matter, you just need to know it is childish dig.

    eg I have no idea what SJW means but think it is intended to be a dig at Rick.
    SJW = Social Justice Warrior
    https://urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Social%20Justice%20Warrior
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    pinno said:

    FWIW, the current death toll of the Corona virus in the UK is 0.00158% of the population. (assuming a population of 66m).
    I doubt that would change any vote unless it affected a member of the Stoneybridge Community Council.

    Can I introduce you to exponential numbers?
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,521

    pinno said:

    FWIW, the current death toll of the Corona virus in the UK is 0.00158% of the population. (assuming a population of 66m).
    I doubt that would change any vote unless it affected a member of the Stoneybridge Community Council.

    Can I introduce you to exponential numbers?
    Go ahead, I mean what is the forecast?
    Thankfully, we had seen the rise in the spread in Italy before CV19 started kicking in in the UK and that means we did this lockdown waaay before exponential spread. Hopefully, that will 'flatten the curve' out and save quite a few more lives.
    Currently, there are 661,000 people reported to have CV19 globally. Deaths: 30671.
    Italy has recorded 92000 cases and 10.000 deaths.

    The deaths make up 0.018% of Italy's population.
    The current global death rate is 4 per million.
    Italy: 166 per million.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    Unless we suffer disproportionately more deaths by head of population than China and for longer, what is your presumption for what the exponential rise will be?

    The Spanish flu at the end of WW1 however...


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