The Hour *** spoilers ***

frenchfighter

He was on 56x14.

Good win. He was on superb form coming into it.

Mad_Malx

xavierdisley wrote:

Graphs now up:

https://twitter.com/xavierdisley/status ... 4382932992

https://twitter.com/xavierdisley/status ... 0108312577

Nice graphs, thanks.

Pokerface

frenchfighter wrote:

He was on 56x14.

Means he would have averaged around 101rpm then for the ride.

term1te

I was in Grenchen yesterday. Very impressive ride, super smooth and consistent for virtually the whole hour. I don't think his position on the bike changed for the first 50 minutes. His hips started to roll a bit in the last ten, and he drifted from his line a couple of times, but he kept it together. Very disciplined and focused performance, I'd be surprised if he even blinked during the hour.

rick_chasey

Chain isn't track slack is it?

Daz555

Rick Chasey wrote:

Chain isn't track slack is it?

Wiggo chain for comparison (Beijing). Does seem a fair bit slacker.

tonyf34

Going by those graphs Voigt is the one with the greater consistancy lap after lap, I wonder if he sold himself short (in the earlier laps) as it showed he was able to go a lot quicker from the 34km point and continually increase it to a level he sustained well above all the other riders by about 42km all the way to the finish.
Not saying he would have gone as far as Dennis but I reckon there was a 52 in his legs

frenchfighter

Interesting article on an amateurs attempt:
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/02/putti ... r-compare/

graeme_s-2

tonyf34 wrote:

Going by those graphs Voigt is the one with the greater consistancy lap after lap, I wonder if he sold himself short (in the earlier laps) as it showed he was able to go a lot quicker from the 34km point and continually increase it to a level he sustained well above all the other riders by about 42km all the way to the finish.
Not saying he would have gone as far as Dennis but I reckon there was a 52 in his legs

I think Jens knew that he couldn't trouble the likes of Wiggins, Cancellara or Martin and wanted to make sure that he broke the record so he paced himself accordingly. It's a very disciplined and savvy ride really, with Bobridge's attempt showing what the alternative could have been.

ai_1

Graeme_S wrote:

tonyf34 wrote:

Going by those graphs Voigt is the one with the greater consistancy lap after lap, I wonder if he sold himself short (in the earlier laps) as it showed he was able to go a lot quicker from the 34km point and continually increase it to a level he sustained well above all the other riders by about 42km all the way to the finish.
Not saying he would have gone as far as Dennis but I reckon there was a 52 in his legs

I think Jens knew that he couldn't trouble the likes of Wiggins, Cancellara or Martin and wanted to make sure that he broke the record so he paced himself accordingly. It's a very disciplined and savvy ride really, with Bobridge's attempt showing what the alternative could have been.

A negative split doesn't necessarily indicate you could have gone much faster. If that was the plan from the off then perhaps he could have gone a smidge further with a neutral split but perhaps not and the chances of blowing up are far greater. An even pace does give a slightly better average pace for the same energy output, but you're also more fatigued for more of the ride and have less ability to adapt your ride if things do not go as planned. A negative split strategy on the other hand means you are slightly better shape for more of the ride and can potentially make up most of the lost time in the second half. If things are not going well you accelerate less or not at all and ride an even pace for a still respectable time. All or nothing to set the highest speed possible probably favours an even pace but if you're fairly confident and breaking the existing record is the priority, negative split is sensible.

frenchfighter

Now some bloke called Dekker is giving it a go :roll:

Here is his sh*t bike:

oldwelshman

Graeme_S wrote:

tonyf34 wrote:

Going by those graphs Voigt is the one with the greater consistancy lap after lap, I wonder if he sold himself short (in the earlier laps) as it showed he was able to go a lot quicker from the 34km point and continually increase it to a level he sustained well above all the other riders by about 42km all the way to the finish.
Not saying he would have gone as far as Dennis but I reckon there was a 52 in his legs

I think Jens knew that he couldn't trouble the likes of Wiggins, Cancellara or Martin and wanted to make sure that he broke the record so he paced himself accordingly. It's a very disciplined and savvy ride really, with Bobridge's attempt showing what the alternative could have been.

Jens just did great pacing, as planned. Just look at how uneven Bobridge was and he paid. You cannot fluctuate pace like that on a track, not even in last kilo. It is easy to loose 4 seconds over a kilo if you blow. This ride was a great ride, well planned and trained for, Bobridge under estimated it, all the talk of putting the record out of reach !! Wiggo and MArtin will prepare better but this is a good record. Wiggo is also very good pacing on track.

oldwelshman

mm1 wrote:

Quick question for anyone in the know (Xav?) Is saddle position determined by the regs? Riding on the tip of his Arione with most of the saddle unused looks very uncomfortable.

The entire bike set up including bar length saddle position and weight are all determined in the UCI Track regs.
If you saw the worlds this week on tv you would have seen the jig they use to check.
I was made to saw off 2mm of my carbon bars at manchester for the masters

Pokerface

oldwelshman wrote:

mm1 wrote:

Quick question for anyone in the know (Xav?) Is saddle position determined by the regs? Riding on the tip of his Arione with most of the saddle unused looks very uncomfortable.

The entire bike set up including bar length saddle position and weight are all determined in the UCI Track regs.
If you saw the worlds this week on tv you would have seen the jig they use to check.
I was made to saw off 2mm of my carbon bars at manchester for the masters

Same regs apply to track bikes as TT bikes when it comes to saddle and bar position.

frenchfighter

Dekker races attempts it today in Mexico.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/dek ... rd-attempt

southdownswolf

Dekker has mo chance with this music.... it's enough to make you fall asleep with boredom.

kfinlay

clock not right and then dissappeared and few graphics that seem to be wrong too! longest hour ever :roll:

Paul 8v

What a shambles! That was actually very close but no info whatsoever and the lap board fell to pieces

kfinlay

52.250km apparently but commentators just being told that this may not be right - may have beaten the record yet

Paul 8v

Re-calculating the effort now as all the clocks were out. It's OK as it's not like it's a world record attempt or anything...

southdownswolf

Probably find out that he actually did 61mins on the track.

"Can you go again please? We didn't get the timing quite right...."

kfinlay

now saying 52.221km

poppit

What a crock! Put in all that effort and get let down by the Mexican clocks!

FJS

He got much closer than I thought he would, to be honest. Not bad for a rider out of contract.

tonyf34

I started a stopwatch at the point from the lady holding one on track (at approx 45minutes into the ride) and he did ride an hour..however going by the lap counter both graphic and the physical hand changed one at the track from the point he had done 200 laps he did not do 52km, in fact ..I had it at 51 plus small change but the ES coverage was crap as always..I mean would it have being so hard for Kirby to actually use a stopwatch and a lap counter ffs, what a bleedin' amateur! The guy even said with 50km to go when it was 50km gone...grrrrr

RichN95.

tonyf34 wrote:

I started a stopwatch at the point from the lady holding one on track (at approx 45minutes into the ride) and he did ride an hour..however going by the lap counter both graphic and the physical hand changed one at the track from the point he had done 200 laps he did not do 52km, in fact ..I had it at 51 plus change but the ES coverage was crap as always..I mean would it have being so hard for Kirby to actually use a stopwatch and a lap counter ffs, what a bleedin' amateur! The guy even said with 50km to go when it was 50km gone...grrrrr

Wow, you're such a hero.

Blame the graphics people. Kirby's there to talk not time keep.

xavierdisley

https://twitter.com/xavierdisley/status ... 5164129281

Started too hard for his 52.5km target, and couldn't stay under the red out of turn 4 as he was staring at the front hub the whole time!

takethehighroad

The general thinking is that what you gain in the air being thinner and easier to travel through, you lose in not being able to breathe as freely

thomthom

Can we not just do these unless it's one of the big three who gives it a go.

Pokerface

ThomThom wrote:

Can we not just do these unless it's one of the big three who gives it a go.

Well, to be fair - Dekker had a good shot at the record. If he'd ridden better lines he would have beat the record and we'd be talking about it more. Plus seeing someone ride at altitude provides some (good) info on the benefits of doing such.

There are no more attempts scheduled now until Wiggins in July anyway.

Of course, we can all come back and discuss Sarah Storey's attempt this weekend!