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  • turbotommy
    turbotommy Posts: 493
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    The media is milking it - the Evening Standard has run a 6 page 'special' on the North London derby.

    Will hopefully be good to watch from a neutral-ish observers point of view. No pressure lads...

    Hyped up games are normally the worst...

    And judging from midweeks form it'll be whowever does the best job of not choking. Arsenal definitely seem to have bigger fitness troubles though as Tim says.
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  • tim_wand
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    Well thought Coq of The Lane, had really fecked that one up for us! And to be fair the way we were playing before his dismissal he probably did! I ll take that result as I was expecting a bit of a Kickin at the Lane today, and when they came back with 2 goals in 5 minutes I really thought we were going to get it.

    No problems with the Cocks sending off absolute idiot to be tackling like that on a yellow in a " none " dangerous area of the pitch.

    It would appear that the Yids have exactly the same bottling problems as us. 13 Minutes at the top of the league and then concede an equaliser against a 10 man team at home who themselves are lacking in confidence.

    Was pleased with the Way Welbeck played and hopefully he can stay in good form for the rest of the run in. Ospinas performance made the loss of Cech not look so bad as I imagined, Gabriel however continues to be a liability when the ball isn't in front of him.

    Great result for Leicester, they must be starting to believe they can do it now!!!
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,424
    Have to say I thought that St. Chokers Day (the day that Arsenal blow their chances of winning the league) had arrived early after the Coquelin sending off, but then Spurs did an Arsenal and blew the game. Although St. Totteringhams Day may be cancelled this year.

    Should be a good watch on MOTD.
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  • kingstonian
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    tim wand wrote:
    Well thought Coq of The Lane, had really fecked that one up for us! And to be fair the way we were playing before his dismissal he probably did! I ll take that result as I was expecting a bit of a Kickin at the Lane today, and when they came back with 2 goals in 5 minutes I really thought we were going to get it.

    No problems with the Cocks sending off absolute idiot to be tackling like that on a yellow in a " none " dangerous area of the pitch.

    It would appear that the Yids have exactly the same bottling problems as us. 13 Minutes at the top of the league and then concede an equaliser against a 10 man team at home who themselves are lacking in confidence.

    Was pleased with the Way Welbeck played and hopefully he can stay in good form for the rest of the run in. Ospinas performance made the loss of Cech not look so bad as I imagined, Gabriel however continues to be a liability when the ball isn't in front of him.

    Great result for Leicester, they must be starting to believe they can do it now!!!

    Was a great game, excellent atmosphere in the ground too.

    No idea what Coquelin was thinking, there was no need to do what he did.

    Wellbeck surprised me, he was a real threat at times and held the ball up well.

    Great goal from Kane, he's really proved himself as a top striker in the PL this season, after some commentators said he was a one season wonder.
  • city_boy
    city_boy Posts: 1,616
    Looks like we'll have to wait another week for the start of Leicester's 'inevitable' collapse! :)
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  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    City Boy wrote:
    Looks like we'll have to wait another week for the start of Leicester's 'inevitable' collapse! :)



    More like another season. Go on you Foxes ( if you go back to the last ten games of last season until noW ?????????)
    What a team.

    post on here not too long back saying even if ( and they wont ) Arsenal won the title, what would it actually mean.
    We were the least worse of a bad lot!!! No one has gone out and smashed it and really looked good.

    I d agree with that in all cases , except Leicester.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,327
    No surprise with Wellbeck. He's class, Giroud is a plonker.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,424
    Something must be wrong, it's been a surprisingly civilised debate on here recently, especially given the bitter rivalry between Spurs and Arsenal:
    https://m.facebook.com/ynfathehub/photos/a.615368661833366.1073741828.516588825044684/990342391002656/?type=3&theater

    I'm sure normal service will be resumed soon...
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  • turbotommy
    turbotommy Posts: 493
    tim wand wrote:
    City Boy wrote:
    Looks like we'll have to wait another week for the start of Leicester's 'inevitable' collapse! :)



    More like another season. Go on you Foxes ( if you go back to the last ten games of last season until noW ?????????)
    What a team.

    post on here not too long back saying even if ( and they wont ) Arsenal won the title, what would it actually mean.
    We were the least worse of a bad lot!!! No one has gone out and smashed it and really looked good.

    I d agree with that in all cases , except Leicester.

    Would you rather Arsenal or Leicester win the league Tim?

    I think a draw was a fair if not a good result.
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  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    That pub sign is from a few months ago
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,424
    That pub sign is from a few months ago
    So is it not true any more? :wink:
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  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    That pub sign is from a few months ago
    So is it not true any more? :wink:


    Ah, still very true !!!!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,327
    Arsenal may not be excellent but Man Yoo are shyte.
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  • pinno
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  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    TurboTommy wrote:
    tim wand wrote:
    City Boy wrote:
    Looks like we'll have to wait another week for the start of Leicester's 'inevitable' collapse! :)



    More like another season. Go on you Foxes ( if you go back to the last ten games of last season until noW ?????????)
    What a team.

    post on here not too long back saying even if ( and they wont ) Arsenal won the title, what would it actually mean.
    We were the least worse of a bad lot!!! No one has gone out and smashed it and really looked good.

    I d agree with that in all cases , except Leicester.

    Would you rather Arsenal or Leicester win the league Tim?

    I think a draw was a fair if not a good result.
    .


    Obviously want the Gooners to win it , but it would feel like a very hollow victory. Its a double edged sword in a way, I m starting to join the Wenger out crowd. If we won the title ( I m sure we wont ) Wenger could step down with the dignity that his early tenure of the club deserves.

    I cant work him out, we ve had initial outstanding success, then we ve / they ve used the excuse of building the Emirates for letting big players go and being in transition ( I supported this phase and could see the rationale ).

    The last two seasons though I really don't get it, I think more and more Wenger is just an intermediary between the board and the paying fans.

    He's a facilities manager between the Board and the customers. I don't know if he actually buys into it himself or truly believes he has autonomy, but we have definitely got a board that sees making money out of the club by means other than winning things as their business rationale.

    If Arsenal had invested in the areas we have all known for years they are deficient in . World Class Centre Forward, World Class Centre Back, and World Class D.M. Say £80 to £100 million pounds worth of players, we would have walked this season, and be in a position to kick on. But we haven't done that, and you can be sure as hell, that Manure, Chelski, Citee and Liverpool will next season and any opportunity to steal a race in the premiership will be gone.

    If Leicester win the title, I think Wenger will use it as a vindication for a different approach , rather than an Indication of what an abstract failure his recent mis management of the team and tactics have been.

    I d like to win it this year, Wenger to leave and someone like Ronald Koeman or Eddie Howe to come in with free reign and the belief that no matter how results go the next 2-3 seasons they will receive the same support Wenger has had.

    However I think that Wenger has had that support from the board , not because they believe in him to get results , but because they trust him to operate inside their model.

    We have some great players at our club, but no leaders, Where are the Vieras, Adams, Keowns. People who are actually going to give their team mates a ruddy good bollocking when they do the sort of nonsense that Coq of the lane and Gabriel pulled yesterday?
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    Me thinks the eternal failure that is McClaren will be collecting his cards today. To be replaced by?
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  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Me thinks the eternal failure that is McClaren will be collecting his cards today. To be replaced by?

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    This lot always get the job done! But with next 3 games against Leicester, Sunderland and Norwich they need to act quick to give any one a chance. If they don't get a win out of the Sunderland and Norwich games then they ll be down.
  • Flâneur
    Flâneur Posts: 3,081
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Me thinks the eternal failure that is McClaren will be collecting his cards today. To be replaced by?

    Someone who wants a quick pay cheque and doesn't mind the Championship on their CV.

    I'm glad we stole 2 points yesterday, but christ that dive could do with some rugby like citation.
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  • TurboTommy wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:

    I can see the banter ramping up ahead of the North London 'friendly' on Saturday :)

    :D

    If only that were true stevo. But the way these lot are talking, they're forming a queue to leave the sinking ship...

    Still, if you build your stadium on an old waste dump you're gonna get a few rats I guess! :lol:

    yes at least we had banks funding it though!

    spurs have huge issues as in the city as no one is touching the funding with a bargepole. no one is prepared to commit big bucks unless the insidious tax dodger joe lewis makes certain assurances that he's not prepared to. CL football will help and a league win will solve the issue, especially as a keystone naming rights sponsor will be more prepared to pay the ridiculous price levy is asking that everyone is cyrrently baulking at, and rightly so for an historically unsuccessful, internationally small club that sponsors see little value in globally unless they win the league which will make them more known/popular in the key new markets and the fly by night fans in said markets who choose teams on success.


    I have heard different about the funding. It is not yet signed as there is another 12 months or so before the club physically needs the funding in place, but there are interested parties.

    I haven't.
  • Pinno wrote:
    No surprise with Wellbeck. He's class, Giroud is a plonker.

    not true. hes a trier though and has a small bit of pace. not a French lumbering carthorse

    still not good enough though.
  • tim wand wrote:
    City Boy wrote:
    Looks like we'll have to wait another week for the start of Leicester's 'inevitable' collapse! :)



    More like another season. Go on you Foxes ( if you go back to the last ten games of last season until noW ?????????)
    What a team.

    post on here not too long back saying even if ( and they wont ) Arsenal won the title, what would it actually mean.
    We were the least worse of a bad lot!!! No one has gone out and smashed it and really looked good.

    I d agree with that in all cases , except Leicester.

    think that was my post that I quoted from an ar se forum.

    fair enough on leics, but still its the league of the losers. all the big teams out of it bar city. (not considering ar.se big as we limit our ambitions to 4th)
  • tim wand wrote:
    TurboTommy wrote:
    tim wand wrote:
    City Boy wrote:
    Looks like we'll have to wait another week for the start of Leicester's 'inevitable' collapse! :)



    More like another season. Go on you Foxes ( if you go back to the last ten games of last season until noW ?????????)
    What a team.

    post on here not too long back saying even if ( and they wont ) Arsenal won the title, what would it actually mean.
    We were the least worse of a bad lot!!! No one has gone out and smashed it and really looked good.

    I d agree with that in all cases , except Leicester.

    Would you rather Arsenal or Leicester win the league Tim?

    I think a draw was a fair if not a good result.
    .


    Obviously want the Gooners to win it , but it would feel like a very hollow victory. Its a double edged sword in a way, I m starting to join the Wenger out crowd. If we won the title ( I m sure we wont ) Wenger could step down with the dignity that his early tenure of the club deserves.

    I cant work him out, we ve had initial outstanding success, then we ve / they ve used the excuse of building the Emirates for letting big players go and being in transition ( I supported this phase and could see the rationale ).

    The last two seasons though I really don't get it, I think more and more Wenger is just an intermediary between the board and the paying fans.

    He's a facilities manager between the Board and the customers. I don't know if he actually buys into it himself or truly believes he has autonomy, but we have definitely got a board that sees making money out of the club by means other than winning things as their business rationale.

    If Arsenal had invested in the areas we have all known for years they are deficient in . World Class Centre Forward, World Class Centre Back, and World Class D.M. Say £80 to £100 million pounds worth of players, we would have walked this season, and be in a position to kick on. But we haven't done that, and you can be sure as hell, that Manure, Chelski, Citee and Liverpool will next season and any opportunity to steal a race in the premiership will be gone.

    If Leicester win the title, I think Wenger will use it as a vindication for a different approach , rather than an Indication of what an abstract failure his recent mis management of the team and tactics have been.

    I d like to win it this year, Wenger to leave and someone like Ronald Koeman or Eddie Howe to come in with free reign and the belief that no matter how results go the next 2-3 seasons they will receive the same support Wenger has had.

    However I think that Wenger has had that support from the board , not because they believe in him to get results , but because they trust him to operate inside their model.

    We have some great players at our club, but no leaders, Where are the Vieras, Adams, Keowns. People who are actually going to give their team mates a ruddy good bollocking when they do the sort of nonsense that Coq of the lane and Gabriel pulled yesterday?

    starting to join the wobs? facking hell!! what more do people need to see the light. wenger is the board. he sits on board meetings, he appointed his own boss ffs how fu.cked is that!!!

    the board are c.unts, (especially mediocre stan, no surprise failing fisher at the LA rams getting a new deal that no one can understand either) but he is complicit, and its not the boards fault there are 0 tactics, 0 change of approach, barmy team selection/subs, rewarding of cr.ap players with big money deals, ridiculous faith in not good enough players (almunia as keeper for 3 years as an example but the list is endless), wasting of money (similar wage budget to the other big 4), the board is guilty of not challenging him and holding him to account or setting him proper targets and not caring about winning. that's the mistake the board has made, but they have given him plenty of cash to utilise.
  • tim wand wrote:
    Well thought Coq of The Lane, had really fecked that one up for us! And to be fair the way we were playing before his dismissal he probably did! I ll take that result as I was expecting a bit of a Kickin at the Lane today, and when they came back with 2 goals in 5 minutes I really thought we were going to get it.

    No problems with the Cocks sending off absolute idiot to be tackling like that on a yellow in a " none " dangerous area of the pitch.

    It would appear that the Yids have exactly the same bottling problems as us. 13 Minutes at the top of the league and then concede an equaliser against a 10 man team at home who themselves are lacking in confidence.

    Was pleased with the Way Welbeck played and hopefully he can stay in good form for the rest of the run in. Ospinas performance made the loss of Cech not look so bad as I imagined, Gabriel however continues to be a liability when the ball isn't in front of him.

    Great result for Leicester, they must be starting to believe they can do it now!!!

    Was a great game, excellent atmosphere in the ground too.

    No idea what Coquelin was thinking, there was no need to do what he did.

    Wellbeck surprised me, he was a real threat at times and held the ball up well.

    Great goal from Kane, he's really proved himself as a top striker in the PL this season, after some commentators said he was a one season wonder.

    the charming Neanderthals from the swamp as ever tried it on with the gooners, not caring about kids or women. really are a charming lot down the lane!!!

    the hilarious shenanigans beforehand where a wannabee spurs hardman got bloodied by the old bill and subsequently removed his twitter from public due to getting the p ripped out of him for his ridiculous attempts at ar.se fans aside, the police yet again messed up big time. as ever little protection for arsenal fans, and its as if the police enjoy the spectacle of the 'running of the arsenal fans'

    as for the game itself, very unimpressed by spurs, as I have said all season, all poch does is run run run and press when that fails they have no idea what to do, and have no players bar kane (I include eriksen and the new stevie g (aopparently) ali (who was anonymous) who can change a game).

    had coq not been so brainless (again its not really his fault its the managers as hes not good enough as first choice for a supposed title aiming team...) or the ref bottled it with a blatant 2nd yellow for dier, I think despite being not great ar.se would have won as we were very comfortable and in the ascendancy after goal 1, should have gone 2 up but welbeck wasted a glorious chance, and again looked dangerous every time we attacked after equalising. spurs as ever were knackered after 70 odd mins and were there for the taking had it been 10 vs 10 (yeah I know bellerin should have gone but that was late on so shouldn't have made much difference.

    any way. no st totteringhams day this year even though I think they will collapse, just hope leics win it and ar.se drop out of top 4 so pressure builds on AW. also hopefully the lack of Walcott coming on in a desperate situation maybe suggest AW realises hes cra.p and his time is also up.
  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    I ve been a WOB at heart for some time, Virtually after Vieras final kick in 2006 and even more so since Wengers decision To let Van Skunk go to Manure and not have Cesc back more recently.

    The problem is I cannot bring myself to align to the Views of( I ve made a career and whole show on Radio Adrian Durham and his Side Goon Goughy ( Pair of C+nts )

    I do honestly believe that the whole philosophy of the Club comes down to Wenger, and he has survived on a combination of Early Success/ Maintaining a Self Sustaining Model of Finance and now fear of the unknown ( The Ferguson leaving UTD effect).

    Personally I would sell Walcott ( To Liverpool for silly money ) Possibly even the Ox. Retire Arteta and Mertersacker!
    Play Cambell more often / In front of Bellerin on the right side, Get Bellerin tied into a massive contract before Barcelóna come back for him.

    Buy one if not 2 World class centre backs ( used to think Hummels) but not really sure who out there now ( Otamendi's form at Citee has shocked me , the guy was unreal at Valencia )

    Makes me believe you need Premier league Centre backs, Stones ? e.t.c

    Then secure the services of World Class striker.

    You looking at nearly £200 million spending and That's not the Arsenal way. But no more 3/4 th place finishes and last 16 of the champions league! other clubs are progressing we are NOT!!!!!!
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,424
    I think it's time the rest of the PL teams have a whip round to fund a 'Save Arsene' campaign. Chelsea will contribute generously :wink:
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  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    I think it's time the rest of the PL teams have a whip round to fund a 'Save Arsene' campaign. Chelsea will contribute generously :wink:


    Think Chelski want to keep their noses out! And start saving their own millions to pay off their Old Doctor.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,424
    tim wand wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    I think it's time the rest of the PL teams have a whip round to fund a 'Save Arsene' campaign. Chelsea will contribute generously :wink:


    Think Chelski want to keep their noses out! And start saving their own millions to pay off their Old Doctor.
    Tim, Arsenal really need to hang onto a winner like Arsene, after all he wins trophies every year :wink:

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  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    Cant wait for Jose's Public apology in open court! Think the league managers association should disbar him from managing any club until its made. Maybe he can get a character reference from JT.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,327
    I think that if JM had held his hands up soon after things starting going pear shaped and apologised to E Carneiro, the players and the fans, he would have been seen as a bigger man than he already was.
    I think that period showed him in such a bad light and exposed some serious flaws, that it will haunt him. To what degree remains to be seen.
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