TDF 2013 Stage 16 **Spoilers** Vaison-la-Romaine - Gap

alan_a

Beloki corner was a furrther 30 - 40 seconds down the road. Lots of PMU banners on it and loads of spectators there too.

LeicesterLad

Not happy with Froomes comments and the shaking of his head.

Stop it Alberto! didn't you get the memo? Nobody is allowed to attack unless it's me!

blazing_saddles

Have I clicked on the CN forum by mistake?

Goodness me, there's been some rubbish posted on here today.
Had hoped for some informed opinion and clarification.
Instead, it's all mud and obfuscation.
Where are the Welsh contingent when you need them?

Back down to Earth with the Tour of Wallonie on Eurosport on Monday.

above_the_cows

Wowzers, Peraud sits really far forward on the saddle. Has anyone else noticed this?

RichN95.

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Have I clicked on the CN forum by mistake?

Goodness me, there's been some rubbish posted on here today.
Had hoped for some informed opinion and clarification.
Instead, it's all mud and obfuscation.
Where are the Welsh contingent when you need them?

Back down to Earth with the Tour of Wallonie on Eurosport on Monday.

And the Eneco Tour next month. The cycling forum equivalent of Froome's worming tablets.

pinno

LeicesterLad wrote:

Not happy with Froomes comments and the shaking of his head.

Stop it Alberto! didn't you get the memo? Nobody is allowed to attack unless it's me!

+1

At least he (Contador) does not look like he is going to roll over and capitulate like many before him in a similar position, despite his legs not being as good as Froomes.

Why are we supposing Contadors thumbs up to Quintana was sarcasm? Thats a particularly British point of view - the majority of riders in the peloton don't have that 'needle'. The are pretty sound and have a lot of respect for each other. After all, they race with each other week in week out all season long. Froomes shaking of the head seems a little arrogant

pat1cp

Above The Cows wrote:

Wowzers, Peraud sits really far forward on the saddle. Has anyone else noticed this?

rivet innit

pat1cp

pinarello001 wrote:

Why are we supposing Contadors thumbs up to Quintana was sarcasm? Thats a particularly British point of view - the majority of riders in the peloton don't have that 'needle'. The are pretty sound and have a lot of respect for each other. After all, they race with each other week in week out all season long. Froomes shaking of the head seems a little arrogant

Sarcasm apparently, "Thanks for attacking when I was on my @rse".

slim_boy_fat

pinarello001 wrote:

LeicesterLad wrote:

Not happy with Froomes comments and the shaking of his head.

Stop it Alberto! didn't you get the memo? Nobody is allowed to attack unless it's me!

+1

At least he (Contador) does not look like he is going to roll over and capitulate like many before him in a similar position, despite his legs not being as good as Froomes.

Why are we supposing Contadors thumbs up to Quintana was sarcasm? Thats a particularly British point of view - the majority of riders in the peloton don't have that 'needle'. The are pretty sound and have a lot of respect for each other. After all, they race with each other week in week out all season long. Froomes shaking of the head seems a little arrogant

Contador said after the race he was not impressed with Quintana pulling the group along after his crash. So Froome bad guy, Contador good guy for doing practically the same thing. Makes sense.

thiscocks

Slim Boy Fat wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

LeicesterLad wrote:

Not happy with Froomes comments and the shaking of his head.

Stop it Alberto! didn't you get the memo? Nobody is allowed to attack unless it's me!

+1

At least he (Contador) does not look like he is going to roll over and capitulate like many before him in a similar position, despite his legs not being as good as Froomes.

Why are we supposing Contadors thumbs up to Quintana was sarcasm? Thats a particularly British point of view - the majority of riders in the peloton don't have that 'needle'. The are pretty sound and have a lot of respect for each other. After all, they race with each other week in week out all season long. Froomes shaking of the head seems a little arrogant

Contador said after the race he was not impressed with Quintana pulling the group along after his crash. So Froome bad guy, Contador good guy for doing practically the same thing. Makes sense.

How was contador doing the same thing? Froome needs to stop moaning like a pussy. He sounds nearly as bad as Andy schleck

mike6

pinarello001 wrote:

LeicesterLad wrote:

Not happy with Froomes comments and the shaking of his head.

Stop it Alberto! didn't you get the memo? Nobody is allowed to attack unless it's me!

+1

At least he (Contador) does not look like he is going to roll over and capitulate like many before him in a similar position, despite his legs not being as good as Froomes.

Why are we supposing Contadors thumbs up to Quintana was sarcasm? Thats a particularly British point of view - the majority of riders in the peloton don't have that 'needle'. The are pretty sound and have a lot of respect for each other. After all, they race with each other week in week out all season long. Froomes shaking of the head seems a little arrogant

Arrogant? Who knows, he may have been saying "Bloody hell, we were lucky to get away with that mate" Cut the guy some slack, what has he done to incur the wrath of so many on here? We have no idea what passed between them.

slim_boy_fat

thiscocks wrote:

Slim Boy Fat wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

LeicesterLad wrote:

Not happy with Froomes comments and the shaking of his head.

Stop it Alberto! didn't you get the memo? Nobody is allowed to attack unless it's me!

+1

At least he (Contador) does not look like he is going to roll over and capitulate like many before him in a similar position, despite his legs not being as good as Froomes.

Why are we supposing Contadors thumbs up to Quintana was sarcasm? Thats a particularly British point of view - the majority of riders in the peloton don't have that 'needle'. The are pretty sound and have a lot of respect for each other. After all, they race with each other week in week out all season long. Froomes shaking of the head seems a little arrogant

Contador said after the race he was not impressed with Quintana pulling the group along after his crash. So Froome bad guy, Contador good guy for doing practically the same thing. Makes sense.

How was contador doing the same thing? Froome needs to stop moaning like a pussy. He sounds nearly as bad as Andy schleck

Erm, Contador was moaning at Quintana for pulling on the front after his crash.

Froboz

frenchfighter wrote:

OH WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT

Mr Porte gets dropped by 100m then uses his SKY TM powers of recovery to make it back and hit the front. WTF :roll:

LMAO - Quite right Frenchie! You tell them!

Macaloon

This tour has really delivered in the storm in a teacup department despite the absence of Wiggo. I think it's good that riders speak their minds even if sometimes they shouldn't.

As for the spoiler threads, the last couple have been good during the race, only decaying after the line.

Pross

Don't get Froome and Porte dragging Bertie back. Mollema wasn't going to make significant inroads on Froome but any time gained on Bertie was a bonus. Haven't bothered reading the thread as no doubt it is doping claim and counter claim. Personally I was surprised how many big names got dropped on the final climb.

moray_gub

thiscocks wrote:

Slim Boy Fat wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

LeicesterLad wrote:

Not happy with Froomes comments and the shaking of his head.

Stop it Alberto! didn't you get the memo? Nobody is allowed to attack unless it's me!

+1

At least he (Contador) does not look like he is going to roll over and capitulate like many before him in a similar position, despite his legs not being as good as Froomes.

How was contador doing the same thing? Froome needs to stop moaning like a pussy. He sounds nearly as bad as Andy schleck

Problem was Contador's Andy Schleckesque descending caused his crash and then he acts like a dick with his sarcastic thumbs up to NQ.......they had every right to push on.

ddraver

Is it possible...and bear with me here...that tempers were a bit frayed and adrenaline running high in both Contador and Froome that perhaps neither of them were entirely rational when they were interviewed?

slim_boy_fat

ddraver wrote:

Is it possible...and bear with me here...that tempers were a bit frayed and adrenaline running high in both Contador and Froome that perhaps neither of them were entirely rational when they were interviewed?

Ah, you see what you've done there ddraver, is not realised that these guys have to act in a way we think appropriate at all times.

moray_gub

mike6 wrote:

Arrogant? Who knows, he may have been saying "Bloody hell, we were lucky to get away with that mate" Cut the guy some slack, what has he done to incur the wrath of so many on here? We have no idea what passed between them.

Well we know now as Bertie has said so himself that he was unhappy with NQ.....ridiculous reaction imo , different if he had a mechanical but it was entirely his own fault.

Froboz

ddraver wrote:

Is it possible...and bear with me here...that tempers were a bit frayed and adrenaline running high in both Contador and Froome that perhaps neither of them were entirely rational when they were interviewed?

Of course it is. Contador's probably getting frustrated and God only knows who stole the jam out of Froome's doughnut.

gsk82

if I was leading the tour and an inferior rider leading early wiped me out id shake my head too.

MrTapir

Above The Cows wrote:

Wowzers, Peraud sits really far forward on the saddle. Has anyone else noticed this?

Yes, and on a very tiny bike.

Froboz

gsk82 wrote:

if I was leading the tour and an inferior rider leading early wiped me out id shake my head too.

Inferior? LOL! Contador's class - open your eyes and you might see it

moray_gub

Froboz wrote:

gsk82 wrote:

if I was leading the tour and an inferior rider leading early wiped me out id shake my head too.

Inferior? LOL! Contador's class - open your eyes and you might see it

Well he usually knows how to liven up a race i will give him that but at base level he is simply a drugs cheat living on ill gotten past glories......not much class in that.

Pross

Is anyone really surprised Froome got a bit upset? The only likely way he is going to lose this Tour is a serious mechanical or a crash. Contador overdid things trying to eek out an advantage on the descent which nearly resulted in the latter and even if there was no major injury he could have ended up with a wrecked bike and requiring a change. Now I'm not suggesting Bertie shouldn't have tried putting Froome under pressure, it was a perfectly legitimate tactic, but having narrowly escaped the crash that is his biggest enemy I suspect the adrenaline was pumping. On the other hand Bertie was a victim to his own error and got arsey with Quintana for not easing up, I'm struggling to see how an issue of his own making was any different to Schleck messing up a gear change.

Lightning

I know everyone likes to hate on Contador over here, but do you haters really think he's a bad, non-exciting rider? Just take a moment to imagine this Tour without him there. No attacks on mountain stages, no echelon attacks during flat stages, etc.. Just Froome riding steady up mountains after Porte has done his thing and everyone else settling for second.

ddraver

Ok well just to blow my theory out of the water....

Chris Froome ‏@chrisfroome
Almost went over your head @albertocontador.. Little more care next time?

3 Mins ago so at ~11pm

Dorset_Boy

Bertie will just be frustrated that his rest day preparation didn't pay off this time.

moray_gub

Lightning wrote:

I know everyone likes to hate on Contador over here, but do you haters really think he's a bad, non-exciting rider? Just take a moment to imagine this Tour without him there. No attacks on mountain stages, no echelon attacks during flat stages, etc.. Just Froome riding steady up mountains after Porte has done his thing and everyone else settling for second.

I must have missed Froomes two massive attacks in the mountains then. Yet folk seem to cream themselves with excitement when Bertie puts into a couple of speculative digs. Which had he been riding drugged up as in previous years he would have ridden away from all.

ddraver

ddraver wrote:

Ok well just to blow my theory out of the water....

Chris Froome ‏@chrisfroome
Almost went over your head @albertocontador.. Little more care next time?

3 Mins ago so at ~11pm

Followed by one of our ex posters...

rats ‏@ratsbey
@chrisfroome @albertocontador Oi... go to bed... BOTH OF YOU!