TDF 2013 Stage 16 **Spoilers** Vaison-la-Romaine - Gap

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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Graeme_S wrote:
    Mavic

    Carlton says Mavitch (like itch), I've always pronounced it Mavick (like magic).

    Do we have a forum consensus?

    I go with the latter...
  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    TheBigBean wrote:
    hammerite wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Arguably, that's the combativity prize...

    It is indeed, but a prize and a red number for one day is not the same as wearing / keeping a jersey that says you have ridden with the most penache in the tour.

    Surely that would need to be judged in a similar way to say rhythmic gymnastics, figure skating and synchronised swimming. Not really sports are they?

    There might be an element of subjectivity, but that exists in proper sports like cricket and football too. Anyway, that's how the comabitivity prize is currently done.

    Ok so like man of the match, player of the tournament (if relating it to football/cricket) etc.... I though combativity had an amount of maths in there something like most time spent on the front of a small group, attacking, chasing down etc...

    Check out the list of prizes for the Giro, there's bound to be a panache prize in there somewhere.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    edited July 2013
    latter

    They re French, not russian (or similar...)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Coach H wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Bring back the combination prize. That's what I say.

    I still have (and occasionally wear) an original Castelli replica of this jersey. Fabric is awful but sized before Italian sizing went stupd; its an XL but bigger than contemporary Castelli XXXL :roll:

    Looks proper 80's (1989 to be exact)

    Edit: Here it is
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    That is one ugly jersey! And imagine the shorts...
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    ddraver wrote:
    No, because you can't link to what a commentator was saying on a live broadcast...

    Man it really is a boring day today isnt it...

    OK in that case I'll just go with my original statement and assume Carlton was talking balls as usual.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Thank you Mr Friebe:

    Daniel Friebe ‏@friebos 23m

    Where did this idea that Pinot has quit Tour because of his fear of descending come from? He's been ill for days.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    TOo much wine for Friebe after the HI pod I reckon. Missed the scoop ;)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Graeme_S wrote:
    Mavic

    Carlton says Mavitch (like itch), I've always pronounced it Mavick (like magic).


    Do we have a forum consensus?


    It's a French company, so I assume Mavik
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  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    edited July 2013
    dish_dash wrote:
    Graeme_S wrote:
    Mavic

    Carlton says Mavitch (like itch), I've always pronounced it Mavick (like magic).

    Do we have a forum consensus?

    I go with the latter...


    Its French (from Annecy!) - Its pronounced "mah-veek"

    EDIT: I should add its not a "manufactured word" that carries a defined pronounciation such as "lay-o-pard". Its actually an acronym. Manufacture d'Articles Vélocipédiques Idoux et Chane
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Not much happening. Break at 7:40, 71km out. Meanwhile Froome found time for a futuristic Oakley publicity shoot on the rest day:

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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    OK, yellow and black jawbones. Affirmative.

    Ooo quick train stop.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Hee hee, Sky not letting Saxo try anything after the train crossing
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    Do the comms hold up the break as they do with the peleton if the break are held up?
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,910
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    goonz wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Arguably, that's the combativity prize...

    It is indeed, but a prize and a red number for one day is not the same as wearing / keeping a jersey that says you have ridden with the most panache in the tour.

    Out of interest if there was a jersey for that, who do you think would be in it/would win it?

    Well this year is a bit tricky as there haven't been many breaks, so it might also be in Froome's wardrobe, but I'm open to suggestions. In years gone by it would have been won by Dekker, Voigt etc

    Jacky Durand would have got to keep it for winning it so many times.

    I remember him from the tour, but wikipedia tells me he won flanders with a 217 km breakaway - that would have earnt him a lot of panache jersey points.

    Thiery Marie is another.
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    So the forum's in agreement that Carlton was talking balls again with his pronunciation then? Excellent :)
  • slimreaper
    slimreaper Posts: 738
    I'm liking Mollema's Giant. Green and black looks good.
    Not normally a fan of Giants
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    TheBigBean wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    goonz wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Arguably, that's the combativity prize...

    It is indeed, but a prize and a red number for one day is not the same as wearing / keeping a jersey that says you have ridden with the most panache in the tour.

    Out of interest if there was a jersey for that, who do you think would be in it/would win it?

    Well this year is a bit tricky as there haven't been many breaks, so it might also be in Froome's wardrobe, but I'm open to suggestions. In years gone by it would have been won by Dekker, Voigt etc

    Jacky Durand would have got to keep it for winning it so many times.

    I remember him from the tour, but wikipedia tells me he won flanders with a 217 km breakaway - that would have earnt him a lot of panache jersey points.

    Thiery Marie is another.


    Durand used to specialise in the doomed 150km solo break.
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  • Runtothehills
    Runtothehills Posts: 184
    Alan A wrote:
    Do the comms hold up the break as they do with the peloton if the break are held up?

    Not sure what you're asking here but I'll try to answer. The basic answer is that it's considered a racing incident so go with it. For a fuller answer from the rules book:

    It is forbidden for any rider to cross a closed
    level-crossing. Riders who do so will be
    disqualified by the stewards. The following
    rules apply:
    • one or several breakaways riders are halted
    by a level-crossing, but the level crossing opens
    before the other riders arrive: no decision is
    taken and the closure of the level-crossing is
    considered as a race incident.
    • if the lead is less than 30”, the closure of
    the level-crossing is considered to be a race
    incident.
    • if one or several breakaway riders have a
    lead of 30” and are halted by a level-crossing
    and one or several pursuers catch up to them
    at the closed level-crossing, then the race is
    stopped and restarted with the same gaps, after
    the official vehicles have been allowed to pass
    through.
    • if one or several riders in the lead cross the
    level-crossing before it closes and one or
    several of the pursuers are blocked, then no
    decision is taken and the closure of the level-
    crossing is considered as a race incident.
    • action concerning any other exceptional
    situation (e.g. level-crossing closed too
    long) will be decided upon by the stewards
    committee. This also applies to any other
    similar situation (drawbridges, obstacle on the
    road...).
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Durand used to specialise in the doomed 150km solo break.
    He was more or less the inventor of the career plan of "If you're unlikely win races at least get on the telly a lot". French cycling has been built on this philosophy ever since.
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  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    Froome's yellow jawbones are better than the one's he is wearing in his promo shot for Alan Partridge's North Norfolk Digital show.

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  • Spiny_Norman
    Spiny_Norman Posts: 128
    Graeme_S wrote:
    So the forum's in agreement that Carlton was talking balls again with his pronunciation then? Excellent :)
    The forum's in agreement that Carlton almost invariably talks balls. I don't think it needs to be narrowed down to a matter of pronunciation.
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  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    Mavic Porn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp3WIBx43d0

    Something is coming in August, apparently.

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  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    15:43:10 CEST
    Here's an interesting little tid-bit from Argos-Shimano, about how much the riders must drink in this weather:

    Nutrition expert Rob van der Werf: Preferably they guys are drinking 1 or 2 bottles per hour especially with these kind of weather conditions where it is really warm making it important to drink well. So during a day like this the riders drink between 35-40 litres all together.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,910
    Runtothehills wrote:
    This also applies to any other
    similar situation (drawbridges, obstacle on the
    road...).

    I want to see the drawbridge stage.
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    Spiny_Norman wrote:
    The forum's in agreement that Carlton almost invariably talks balls. I don't think it needs to be narrowed down to a matter of pronunciation.
    :D
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Runtothehills wrote:
    This also applies to any other
    similar situation (drawbridges, obstacle on the
    road...).

    I want to see the drawbridge stage.

    I'm assuming they mean regular bridges that lift or swing. A regular feature of the Netherlands.
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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    TheBigBean wrote:
    goonz wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Arguably, that's the combativity prize...

    It is indeed, but a prize and a red number for one day is not the same as wearing / keeping a jersey that says you have ridden with the most panache in the tour.

    Out of interest if there was a jersey for that, who do you think would be in it/would win it?

    Well this year is a bit tricky as there haven't been many breaks, so it might also be in Froome's wardrobe, but I'm open to suggestions. In years gone by it would have been won by Dekker, Voigt etc
    Bakelants surely.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Nutrition expert Rob van der Werf of Argos: Preferably they guys are drinking 1 or 2 bottles per hour especially with these kind of weather conditions where it is really warm making it important to drink well. So during a day like this the riders drink between 35-40 litres all together.

    So a rider has close on 80 bottles. Multiply that by the number of riders in the race. I`m guessing the real number of bottles is somewhat below that. But still - an incredible amount of bottles that litter the route.
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  • Runtothehills
    Runtothehills Posts: 184
    Above The Cows wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Runtothehills wrote:
    This also applies to any other
    similar situation (drawbridges, obstacle on the
    road...).

    I want to see the drawbridge stage.

    I'm assuming they mean regular bridges that lift or swing. A regular feature of the Netherlands.

    I wondered if buses count as an obstacle on the road :)
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Nutrition expert Rob van der Werf of Argos: Preferably they guys are drinking 1 or 2 bottles per hour especially with these kind of weather conditions where it is really warm making it important to drink well. So during a day like this the riders drink between 35-40 litres all together.

    So a rider has close on 80 bottles. Multiply that by the number of riders in the race. I`m guessing the real number of bottles is somewhat below that. But still - an incredible amount of bottles that litter the route.
    Try and find them though. I went for a ride along the Brittany stage a couple of days after they went through and was keeping an eye out for any left lying around. Not a chance.

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