TDF 2013 Stage 16 **Spoilers** Vaison-la-Romaine - Gap

slim_boy_fat

Gap,going up v quickly 5'25" now.

Macaloon

The 26 stage leaders... 5'00" ahead

Hansen (LTB), Gilbert and Quinziato (BMC), Didier, Gallopin and Kloden (RTL), Gautier and Voeckler (EUC), Kadri and Riblon (ALM), Roche (TST), Trofimov (KAT), Astarloza (EUS), Jeannesson (FDJ), Costa (MOV), Coppel and Navarro (COF), Mori (LAM), Velits (OPQ), Navardauskas (GRS), Albasini and Meyer (OGE), Dumoulin (ARG), De Gendt and Hoogerland (VCD) and Marino (SOJ).

They are 5'00" ahead of the peloton.

hammerite

and after all that still no FDJ in the break.

Edit:
Sorry, yes Jeannesson soloed over. One of them had to, they'd be on gruel for dinner tonight if none of them made it.

slim_boy_fat

Fifth place on stage 2 is the best finish by a French rider so far. Surely they have to win this one, national honour and all that?

Macaloon

hammerite wrote:

and after all that still no FDJ in the break.

Look up.

DeadCalm

hammerite wrote:

and after all that still no FDJ in the break.

Jeanesson is there. Last to join. Would have loved to see Vichot there.

hammerite

Macaloon wrote:

hammerite wrote:

and after all that still no FDJ in the break.

Look up.

yep, was looking at the list on CN which must have been put up before he got to the group. Post edited!

TheBigBean

Who is best placed on GC?

above_the_cows

TheBigBean wrote:

Who is best placed on GC?

NAVARRO D.139 COF +00:23:36

Macaloon

:arrow:

TheStone

Above The Cows wrote:

TheBigBean wrote:

Who is best placed on GC?

NAVARRO D.139 COF +00:23:36

Could we see a massive shock today?

above_the_cows

TheStone wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

TheBigBean wrote:

Who is best placed on GC?

NAVARRO D.139 COF +00:23:36

Could we see a massive shock today?

You mean a Cofidis win? Shhhhhh. You'll scare them away.

foxya3xx

They've finally sorted some yellow jawbones out for Froome!!

emadden

Kirby: Lance the dark prince. With black socks. Maybe that was an indication .... hahahaha

fleshtuxedo

Sky could let this go out until the Top 10 is under threat then.

hammerite

If this does go all the way there are a few in this group who can sprint a bit. Gallopin, Pocket Sammy, Albasini, Navardauskas, Hansen, Quinziato.

binkybike

hammerite wrote:

If this does go all the way there are a few in this group who can sprint a bit. Gallopin, Pocket Sammy, Albasini, Navardauskas, Hansen, Quinziato.

I would have thought it'll break up on the final climb

frenchfighter

Does anyone think it was ridiculous to have some many KOM points at the top of the Ventoux yesterday? 50 points is pretty ridiculous IMO. Makes all previous efforts more or less redundant.

TheBigBean

Above The Cows wrote:

TheBigBean wrote:

Who is best placed on GC?

NAVARRO D.139 COF +00:23:36

Thanks. Oscar Pereiro II

DeadCalm

Can't see anything of interest happening for the next couple of hours.

hammerite

binkybike wrote:

hammerite wrote:

If this does go all the way there are a few in this group who can sprint a bit. Gallopin, Pocket Sammy, Albasini, Navardauskas, Hansen, Quinziato.

I would have thought it'll break up on the final climb

I would too, but you never know..... Tommy V won't hang about to find out that's for sure.

10.5 Frenchmen in a break of 23, they have a numerical advantage for a win today.

TheBigBean

frenchfighter wrote:

Does anyone think it was ridiculous to have some many KOM points at the top of the Ventoux yesterday? 50 points is pretty ridiculous IMO. Makes all previous efforts more or less redundant.

They keep trying to find a balance. The idea that the King of the Moutains was a guy who lost 20 mins on the final HC wasn't great either.

goonz

TheBigBean wrote:

Who is best placed on GC?

Froome :P

binkybike

frenchfighter wrote:

Does anyone think it was ridiculous to have some many KOM points at the top of the Ventoux yesterday? 50 points is pretty ridiculous IMO. Makes all previous efforts more or less redundant.

haven't they changed the points so that non-climbing opportunists can't win it with a couple of well timed break aways to hoover up points early in the stages, the Polka-dots have been devalued for a few years now.

We'll see if the new system is better in Paris i guess...

disgruntledgoat

frenchfighter wrote:

Does anyone think it was ridiculous to have some many KOM points at the top of the Ventoux yesterday? 50 points is pretty ridiculous IMO. Makes all previous efforts more or less redundant.

They changed it around a few years ago, offering double points at the top of summit finishes, to take the jersey away from teh likes of Virenque who would lead over any number of 2s and 3s and then be nowhere when the race got serious.

hammerite

frenchfighter wrote:

Does anyone think it was ridiculous to have some many KOM points at the top of the Ventoux yesterday? 50 points is pretty ridiculous IMO. Makes all previous efforts more or less redundant.

Yes I agree. Apart from Rolland no one has even tried really racing for the polka dot jersey. How many points for mid stage HC mountain tops?

slimreaper

frenchfighter wrote:

Does anyone think it was ridiculous to have some many KOM points at the top of the Ventoux yesterday? 50 points is pretty ridiculous IMO. Makes all previous efforts more or less redundant.

Completely agree. Way too many points. Think it seems to have gone too far the other way from previous years. It used to seem KOM was done and dusted earlier in the race with loads of little climbs

above_the_cows

Look at that escarpment. Did we see that escarpment last year going the other way on the stage that Millar won?

goonz

frenchfighter wrote:

Does anyone think it was ridiculous to have some many KOM points at the top of the Ventoux yesterday? 50 points is pretty ridiculous IMO. Makes all previous efforts more or less redundant.

Why? Because Sky wont them all?

goonz

foxya3xx wrote:

They've finally sorted some yellow jawbones out for Froome!!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!