TDF 2013 Stage 15 - Ventoux *Spoilers*
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mike6 wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:The Mad Rapper wrote:Froome's performance was ridiculous, and that's all I'm going to say about that.
Contador was a massive disappointment today, but I suspect the playing fields were very different for various reasons.
I'm not sure I understand this comment. I know I'm not much of a poster here but have watched the tour for more than the Sky years. On one hand you say Froome's performance was unbelievable then that Contador was below par ( I say this as an assumption from your post unless you also think Contador's own teammate is doping too) so would a fit Contador have been one and a half minutes faster but believable? Just asking.
For myself as a neutral (not British, no particular heart flutterings for any riders) I saw today's stage as a great performance. I think Movistar could possibly have played it better but that's racing.
I wouldnt bother mate. Until recently there were 2 convicted but unrepentant dopers in the first 4 on GC, and no one on here said a word about that.
Sky, for some reason, are the only team that get the "I am convinced they are dopers" slur. For no other reason than they are leading on GC.
Log on to any other thread from say, the Belgian classics and you will see no bad mouthing of teams. There was even a post, from an earlier stage, accusing Froome of cheating and deliberately finishing second. You figure.
Applause!We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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mike6 wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:The Mad Rapper wrote:Froome's performance was ridiculous, and that's all I'm going to say about that.
Contador was a massive disappointment today, but I suspect the playing fields were very different for various reasons.
I'm not sure I understand this comment. I know I'm not much of a poster here but have watched the tour for more than the Sky years. On one hand you say Froome's performance was unbelievable then that Contador was below par ( I say this as an assumption from your post unless you also think Contador's own teammate is doping too) so would a fit Contador have been one and a half minutes faster but believable? Just asking.
For myself as a neutral (not British, no particular heart flutterings for any riders) I saw today's stage as a great performance. I think Movistar could possibly have played it better but that's racing.
I wouldnt bother mate. Until recently there were 2 convicted but unrepentant dopers in the first 4 on GC, and no one on here said a word about that.
Sky, for some reason, are the only team that get the "I am convinced they are dopers" slur. For no other reason than they are leading on GC.
Log on to any other thread from say, the Belgian classics and you will see no bad mouthing of teams. There was even a post, from an earlier stage, accusing Froome of cheating and deliberately finishing second. You figure.
1) Doping is more rampant in GT's and this is the biggest. That's why you see more doping talk in a Tour thread then in any other race thread. Blood vector doping works best in the GT's.
2) You shot yourself in the foot when you decided to talk about two convicted and unrepentant dopers. What do we need to discuss,we know all about them. Had either of them done what Froome did today they discussion would be less because most would say they are still at it and you wouldn't have the Brits blindly defending them with USPS "logic."
It's pretty simple if you open your eyes to everything and not just what you want to see.0 -
It wasn't so much that they had them as they are always around on big stages, it was that they had them right on the road next to the riders. :twisted:Paul 8v wrote:
I don't think any of the riders would have appreciated a lung full of that, silly sods. Glad there wasn't too much running next to the riders but it still happened. Looked like they never got the message from the ASOSalsiccia1 wrote:Outsider art by Loan wrote:Somebody needs to smack those cu nts setting off flares. Why the fu ck?
Apart from the anglo-saxon, I'm in full agreement.
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Yeah it wasn't goodRundfahrt wrote:
It wasn't so much that they had them as they are always around on big stages, it was that they had them right on the road next to the riders. :twisted:Paul 8v wrote:
I don't think any of the riders would have appreciated a lung full of that, silly sods. Glad there wasn't too much running next to the riders but it still happened. Looked like they never got the message from the ASOSalsiccia1 wrote:Outsider art by Loan wrote:Somebody needs to smack those cu nts setting off flares. Why the fu ck?
Apart from the anglo-saxon, I'm in full agreement. 0 -
Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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ddraver wrote:Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)
It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
So, back to the racing - did Contador do some turns on the front yesterday? Might have been regretting them today.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0
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Salsiccia1 wrote:ddraver wrote:Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)
As a kiwi I know I'm supposed to dislike the Aussies but the Orica boys do have a sense of humour.0 -
cyclingsheep wrote:Salsiccia1 wrote:ddraver wrote:Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)
As a kiwi I know I'm supposed to dislike the Aussies but the Orica boys do have a sense of humour.
I wasn't going to assume with a name like 'cyclingsheep' but...Correlation is not causation.0 -
No tA Doctor wrote:So, back to the racing - did Contador do some turns on the front yesterday? Might have been regretting them today.
It's all about 'marginal gains'. Someone in the spoiler yesterday suggested that to attack yesterday for the gain Saxo got vs energy expended was a false gain that would have paid off better today. You may be right but hindsight is always 20/200 -
Above The Cows wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Salsiccia1 wrote:ddraver wrote:Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)
As a kiwi I know I'm supposed to dislike the Aussies but the Orica boys do have a sense of humour.
I wasn't going to assume with a name like 'cyclingsheep' but...
Guilty as charged your honour 0 -
cyclingsheep wrote:Above The Cows wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Salsiccia1 wrote:ddraver wrote:Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)
As a kiwi I know I'm supposed to dislike the Aussies but the Orica boys do have a sense of humour.
I wasn't going to assume with a name like 'cyclingsheep' but...
Guilty as charged your honour
I thought it might be a mint sauce reference!0 -
cyclingsheep wrote:Salsiccia1 wrote:ddraver wrote:Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)
As a kiwi I know I'm supposed to dislike the Aussies but the Orica boys do have a sense of humour.
Their Backstage Pass vids are great, and the Chef seems to have a sense of humour in the other vids... almost died laughing when the DS mentioned the "matesmanship" culture the team is built on though
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Paul 8v wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Above The Cows wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Salsiccia1 wrote:ddraver wrote:Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)
As a kiwi I know I'm supposed to dislike the Aussies but the Orica boys do have a sense of humour.
I wasn't going to assume with a name like 'cyclingsheep' but...
Guilty as charged your honour
I thought it might be a mint sauce reference!
Damn you guys (and gals) are good. It is as well, I'm a reformed mtber for my sins0 -
Hi, i have been lurking on this forum since the start of the year and after seeing some of the discontent at the diminishing level of the quality of forum i decided this might be a good time to write my first post. Firstly i'd like to thank all the people who regularly comment on the forum especially posts on the stage threads, i don't have eurosport or the capability to stream races so the contributions really help to create a narrative of whats going on in the race as well as giving me (indirectly) a greater understanding of the intricacies of the sport. people such as ATC, ddraver, tallwindhome, French fighter, Richn95, RR, disgruntledgoat, leisterlad, Thomthom, macaloon and probably many more i forgot to mention continuously seem to contribute all the links, pictures, and general insight that any cycling fan could need. whilst not wanting to blow to much smoke there also seems to be greater level of discussion and banter had on this thread than most of the others i have found as well as plenty of ridiclous tangents (15x15 palava and what not). so once again thanks to those thank make this forum a great place to visit, but if i could make on criticism it is the overuse of this bloody roll eyes smiley :roll: i don't know why but it really annoys me.
P.S. i was also surprised as others when i found out abovethecows was a woman, it was a twist of Tyler Durden, Crying game proportions0 -
cyclingsheep wrote:Paul 8v wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Above The Cows wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Salsiccia1 wrote:ddraver wrote:Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)
As a kiwi I know I'm supposed to dislike the Aussies but the Orica boys do have a sense of humour.
I wasn't going to assume with a name like 'cyclingsheep' but...
Guilty as charged your honour
I thought it might be a mint sauce reference!
Damn you guys (and gals) are good. It is as well, I'm a reformed mtber for my sins
Well kia ora and at least you're not a triathlete. You're not are you? Please say you're not.
Correlation is not causation.0 -
Trotty's Devil wrote:Hi, i have been lurking on this forum since the start of the year and after seeing some of the discontent at the diminishing level of the quality of forum i decided this might be a good time to write my first post. Firstly i'd like to thank all the people who regularly comment on the forum especially posts on the stage threads, i don't have eurosport or the capability to stream races so the contributions really help to create a narrative of whats going on in the race as well as giving me (indirectly) a greater understanding of the intricacies of the sport. people such as ATC, ddraver, tallwindhome, French fighter, Richn95, RR, disgruntledgoat, leisterlad, Thomthom, macaloon and probably many more i forgot to mention continuously seem to contribute all the links, pictures, and general insight that any cycling fan could need. whilst not wanting to blow to much smoke there also seems to be greater level of discussion and banter had on this thread than most of the others i have found as well as plenty of ridiclous tangents (15x15 palava and what not). so once again thanks to those thank make this forum a great place to visit, but if i could make on criticism it is the overuse of this bloody roll eyes smiley :roll: i don't know why but it really annoys me.
P.S. i was also surprised as others when i found out abovethecows was a woman, it was a twist of Tyler Durden, Crying game proportions
A very warm welcome to you! 0 -
No tA Doctor wrote:So, back to the racing - did Contador do some turns on the front yesterday? Might have been regretting them today.
Yeah think it was a whole team effort. Was wondering if he was struggling a bit...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Above The Cows wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Paul 8v wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Above The Cows wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Salsiccia1 wrote:ddraver wrote:Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)
As a kiwi I know I'm supposed to dislike the Aussies but the Orica boys do have a sense of humour.
I wasn't going to assume with a name like 'cyclingsheep' but...
Guilty as charged your honour
I thought it might be a mint sauce reference!
Damn you guys (and gals) are good. It is as well, I'm a reformed mtber for my sins
Well kia ora and at least you're not a triathlete. You're not are you? Please say you're not.
Sleeveless cycling tops?.........never0 -
cyclingsheep wrote:Paul 8v wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Above The Cows wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Salsiccia1 wrote:ddraver wrote:Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)
As a kiwi I know I'm supposed to dislike the Aussies but the Orica boys do have a sense of humour.
I wasn't going to assume with a name like 'cyclingsheep' but...
Guilty as charged your honour
I thought it might be a mint sauce reference!
Damn you guys (and gals) are good. It is as well, I'm a reformed mtber for my sins
Oi there's nothing wrong with MTBing - Sport of Kings!
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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LeicesterLad wrote:Trotty's Devil wrote:Hi, i have been lurking on this forum since the start of the year and after seeing some of the discontent at the diminishing level of the quality of forum i decided this might be a good time to write my first post. Firstly i'd like to thank all the people who regularly comment on the forum especially posts on the stage threads, i don't have eurosport or the capability to stream races so the contributions really help to create a narrative of whats going on in the race as well as giving me (indirectly) a greater understanding of the intricacies of the sport. people such as ATC, ddraver, tallwindhome, French fighter, Richn95, RR, disgruntledgoat, leisterlad, Thomthom, macaloon and probably many more i forgot to mention continuously seem to contribute all the links, pictures, and general insight that any cycling fan could need. whilst not wanting to blow to much smoke there also seems to be greater level of discussion and banter had on this thread than most of the others i have found as well as plenty of ridiclous tangents (15x15 palava and what not). so once again thanks to those thank make this forum a great place to visit, but if i could make on criticism it is the overuse of this bloody roll eyes smiley :roll: i don't know why but it really annoys me.
P.S. i was also surprised as others when i found out abovethecows was a woman, it was a twist of Tyler Durden, Crying game proportions
A very warm welcome to you!
:roll: :roll: :roll:We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Trotty's Devil wrote:P.S. i was also surprised as others when i found out abovethecows was a woman, it was a twist of Tyler Durden, Crying game proportions
Welcome! Just to let you know, I'm not the only one, woman that is. There be more of my kind lurking around these parts.Correlation is not causation.0 -
ddraver wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Damn you guys (and gals) are good. It is as well, I'm a reformed mtber for my sins
Oi there's nothing wrong with MTBing - Sport of Kings!
Yeah but triathlon?* We're all agreed on triathlon right?
*Although could really do with a short sleeved cycling jersey, my tan lines are awful.Correlation is not causation.0 -
cyclingsheep wrote:Paul 8v wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Above The Cows wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Salsiccia1 wrote:ddraver wrote:Meanwhile, at the OGE Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw_s4Msy ... e=youtu.be
(careful with the volume)
As a kiwi I know I'm supposed to dislike the Aussies but the Orica boys do have a sense of humour.
I wasn't going to assume with a name like 'cyclingsheep' but...
Guilty as charged your honour
I thought it might be a mint sauce reference!
Damn you guys (and gals) are good. It is as well, I'm a reformed mtber for my sins
I knew it! Perfectly acceptable that, I ride both but for watching on the telly there is hardly any MTB and I don't suppose it would really work as well, it's not like you can have a cameraman following them about (I suppose you could have live go pros)0 -
ddraver wrote:LeicesterLad wrote:Trotty's Devil wrote:Hi, i have been lurking on this forum since the start of the year and after seeing some of the discontent at the diminishing level of the quality of forum i decided this might be a good time to write my first post. Firstly i'd like to thank all the people who regularly comment on the forum especially posts on the stage threads, i don't have eurosport or the capability to stream races so the contributions really help to create a narrative of whats going on in the race as well as giving me (indirectly) a greater understanding of the intricacies of the sport. people such as ATC, ddraver, tallwindhome, French fighter, Richn95, RR, disgruntledgoat, leisterlad, Thomthom, macaloon and probably many more i forgot to mention continuously seem to contribute all the links, pictures, and general insight that any cycling fan could need. whilst not wanting to blow to much smoke there also seems to be greater level of discussion and banter had on this thread than most of the others i have found as well as plenty of ridiclous tangents (15x15 palava and what not). so once again thanks to those thank make this forum a great place to visit, but if i could make on criticism it is the overuse of this bloody roll eyes smiley :roll: i don't know why but it really annoys me.
P.S. i was also surprised as others when i found out abovethecows was a woman, it was a twist of Tyler Durden, Crying game proportions
A very warm welcome to you!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Welcome!
If there is one thing worse than the rolly eyes, it's that cheesey, smirky, winky emoticon :roll: 0 -
Welcome!Above The Cows wrote:Trotty's Devil wrote:P.S. i was also surprised as others when i found out abovethecows was a woman, it was a twist of Tyler Durden, Crying game proportions
Welcome! Just to let you know, I'm not the only one, woman that is. There be more of my kind lurking around these parts.
Is Richmond racer a lady? Apologies if I have that wrong!0 -
Above The Cows wrote:ddraver wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Damn you guys (and gals) are good. It is as well, I'm a reformed mtber for my sins
Oi there's nothing wrong with MTBing - Sport of Kings!
Yeah but triathlon?* We're all agreed on triathlon right?
*Although could really do with a short sleeved cycling jersey, my tan lines are awful.
A) Yes, Sport of Devils
NO!!!! NO YOU DO NOT!!!!! We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Sorry, big apologies, I'm an ex triathlete, am I banned now?Above The Cows wrote:ddraver wrote:cyclingsheep wrote:Damn you guys (and gals) are good. It is as well, I'm a reformed mtber for my sins
Oi there's nothing wrong with MTBing - Sport of Kings!
Yeah but triathlon?* We're all agreed on triathlon right?
*Although could really do with a short sleeved cycling jersey, my tan lines are awful.Eddy Merckx EMX-3
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