The Scott CR1 SL Thread

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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Not done yet - like I say, it's not urgent and I have the C2C and NSPCC Tour of Yorkshire plus the Tour itself on my mind in the immediate term! Main blocker on this one is that I haven't got the collinite yet!
    Faster than a tent.......
  • Polkascott
    Polkascott Posts: 34
    I actually treated mine with Collinite. It just gives the frame a very gentle sheen (I was worried that it will be too shiny). The greatest benefit is that it just shrugs off water and makes the bike super easy to clean. To be honest I doubt you will notice it in a photo.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Rolf F wrote:
    I had Chris Marshall chop the steerer, fit the headset and put the Campag BB adaptors in on my SL frame. Now there is nothing to stop me completing the build in the next 5 years or so.......

    Steady now what's the rush
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • Lefthook
    Lefthook Posts: 124
    Anyone had to replace the hanger?

    Managed to stack it and bend the hanger. Ordered a Scott replacement from Westbrook, but now the rear wheel will not sit straight and rubs the chain stay.

    I can clamp the wheel in straight and tight but it will always slowly move over the course of a couple of rides so that the tyre is rubbing the stay.

    Anyone recommend a non original replacement, as seems I can't trust the tolerances on the Scott one?
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    Lefthook wrote:
    Anyone had to replace the hanger?

    Managed to stack it and bend the hanger. Ordered a Scott replacement from Westbrook, but now the rear wheel will not sit straight and rubs the chain stay.

    I can clamp the wheel in straight and tight but it will always slowly move over the course of a couple of rides so that the tyre is rubbing the stay.

    Anyone recommend a non original replacement, as seems I can't trust the tolerances on the Scott one?
    I have replaced mine with the proper one from Westbrook as my gears weren't running quite right.

    I doubt this is your problem here, but both hangers have needed bending straight.
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    Has anyone replaced their headset? I'm wondering how easy it would be to drift out the cups with this:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-headset-cup-remover/

    I'm thinking of replacing my headset with a Hope integral headset http://www.wiggle.co.uk/hope-integral-headset/
  • itsnotarace
    itsnotarace Posts: 518
    Looks too small, the OD of the CR1SL is 46mm

    The Ritchey is lighter and cheaper, what's not to like?

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ritc ... prod112210
  • fat_tail
    fat_tail Posts: 786
    itsnotarace wrote:
    Looks too small, the OD of the CR1SL is 46mm

    The Ritchey is lighter and cheaper, what's not to like?

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ritc ... prod112210

    Do you know if this headset works for the CR1 Comp ?
    Ridley Fenix SL
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    itsnotarace wrote:
    Looks too small, the OD of the CR1SL is 46mm

    The Ritchey is lighter and cheaper, what's not to like?

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ritc ... prod112210
    That's the wrong headset - you're looking at the integrated headset (ie no cups necessary)

    Ritchey's semi integrated headsets appear to be 44mm:

    Upper Fit (S.H.I.S.): ZS44/28.6
    Lower Fit (S.H.I.S.): ZS44/30

    This is the one that came with the frame http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ritchey-wcs-pre ... h-headset/

    And we're now comparing 110g to 80g - not that I'm fussed about the weight.

    What's not to like? The crown race cracking after less than 1000 miles. I'm not sure if being able (when there's stock) to buy replacement Ritchey races is because they're great at supporting their products or if they know the races are crap?
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    fat_tail wrote:
    itsnotarace wrote:
    Looks too small, the OD of the CR1SL is 46mm

    The Ritchey is lighter and cheaper, what's not to like?

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ritc ... prod112210

    Do you know if this headset works for the CR1 Comp ?
    If the CR1 Comp uses a zero stack headset like the SL then no. The drop in headset is an integrated headset.
  • fat_tail
    fat_tail Posts: 786
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    itsnotarace wrote:
    Looks too small, the OD of the CR1SL is 46mm

    The Ritchey is lighter and cheaper, what's not to like?

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ritc ... prod112210

    Do you know if this headset works for the CR1 Comp ?
    If the CR1 Comp uses a zero stack headset like the SL then no. The drop in headset is an integrated headset.

    what replacement headset should I get then ? mine is getting a little worn I reckon. Also, I was thinking of getting an inch off the top of the steerer (not doing it myself I hasten to add). Any thoughts on that ?
    Ridley Fenix SL
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    fat_tail wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    itsnotarace wrote:
    Looks too small, the OD of the CR1SL is 46mm

    The Ritchey is lighter and cheaper, what's not to like?

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ritc ... prod112210

    Do you know if this headset works for the CR1 Comp ?
    If the CR1 Comp uses a zero stack headset like the SL then no. The drop in headset is an integrated headset.

    what replacement headset should I get then ? mine is getting a little worn I reckon. Also, I was thinking of getting an inch off the top of the steerer (not doing it myself I hasten to add). Any thoughts on that ?
    Let's start off with the headset you have now. Know the model? Got a picture?

    If there's nothing wrong with the headset itself then replacement bearings will be the easiest solution.
  • fat_tail
    fat_tail Posts: 786
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    itsnotarace wrote:
    Looks too small, the OD of the CR1SL is 46mm

    The Ritchey is lighter and cheaper, what's not to like?

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ritc ... prod112210

    Do you know if this headset works for the CR1 Comp ?
    If the CR1 Comp uses a zero stack headset like the SL then no. The drop in headset is an integrated headset.

    what replacement headset should I get then ? mine is getting a little worn I reckon. Also, I was thinking of getting an inch off the top of the steerer (not doing it myself I hasten to add). Any thoughts on that ?
    Let's start off with the headset you have now. Know the model? Got a picture?

    If there's nothing wrong with the headset itself then replacement bearings will be the easiest solution.

    According to the nice people at Scoot my bike came with a ritchey 1" 1/8 semi integrated with 44 mm cups.
    Ridley Fenix SL
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    fat_tail wrote:
    According to the nice people at Scoot my bike came with a ritchey 1" 1/8 semi integrated with 44 mm cups.
    OK, from what I can work out, your bike possibly has a Ritchey Pro headset:

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobi ... -prod39381

    If everything is in good condition and it's just the bearings that are rough, then replace just the bearings - this is really easy to do. The press fit version of these should fit:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ritchey-pro-headset-bearing/

    Otherwise, the headset I'm fitting should fit - I'll find out later if it works.
  • fat_tail
    fat_tail Posts: 786
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    According to the nice people at Scoot my bike came with a ritchey 1" 1/8 semi integrated with 44 mm cups.
    OK, from what I can work out, your bike possibly has a Ritchey Pro headset:

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobi ... -prod39381

    If everything is in good condition and it's just the bearings that are rough, then replace just the bearings - this is really easy to do. The press fit version of these should fit:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ritchey-pro-headset-bearing/

    Otherwise, the headset I'm fitting should fit - I'll find out later if it works.

    thanks - I have ordered the bearings you suggested. hopefully they will work !
    Ridley Fenix SL
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    fat_tail wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    According to the nice people at Scoot my bike came with a ritchey 1" 1/8 semi integrated with 44 mm cups.
    OK, from what I can work out, your bike possibly has a Ritchey Pro headset:

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobi ... -prod39381

    If everything is in good condition and it's just the bearings that are rough, then replace just the bearings - this is really easy to do. The press fit version of these should fit:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ritchey-pro-headset-bearing/

    Otherwise, the headset I'm fitting should fit - I'll find out later if it works.

    thanks - I have ordered the bearings you suggested. hopefully they will work !
    Compare the old bearings before you open any packaging :)
  • fat_tail
    fat_tail Posts: 786
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    According to the nice people at Scoot my bike came with a ritchey 1" 1/8 semi integrated with 44 mm cups.
    OK, from what I can work out, your bike possibly has a Ritchey Pro headset:

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobi ... -prod39381

    If everything is in good condition and it's just the bearings that are rough, then replace just the bearings - this is really easy to do. The press fit version of these should fit:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ritchey-pro-headset-bearing/

    Otherwise, the headset I'm fitting should fit - I'll find out later if it works.

    thanks - I have ordered the bearings you suggested. hopefully they will work !
    Compare the old bearings before you open any packaging :)

    haha ...
    Ridley Fenix SL
  • scott-s30
    scott-s30 Posts: 45
    Finally completed my build, only got the frame in August last year! :-)

    Test ride will be 112 miles around Tenby this weekend...

  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    112 mile shakedown ride, that's the spirit :wink:
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    Just for reference, the Hope Integral headset fits without a problem. I've not used the Hed Doctor though instead keeping the bung and top cap from the original.
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    patrickf wrote:
    Lefthook wrote:
    Anyone had to replace the hanger?

    Managed to stack it and bend the hanger. Ordered a Scott replacement from Westbrook, but now the rear wheel will not sit straight and rubs the chain stay.

    I can clamp the wheel in straight and tight but it will always slowly move over the course of a couple of rides so that the tyre is rubbing the stay.

    Anyone recommend a non original replacement, as seems I can't trust the tolerances on the Scott one?
    I have replaced mine with the proper one from Westbrook as my gears weren't running quite right.

    I doubt this is your problem here, but both hangers have needed bending straight.

    My CR1-SL fell over in the garage after I brushed past it with the wheelie-bin. I could see straight away the rear mech was no longer vertical; went online and ordered a replacement from Westbrooks. Good as new with the replacement hanger.
  • Lefthook
    Lefthook Posts: 124
    keef66 wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    Lefthook wrote:
    Anyone had to replace the hanger?

    Managed to stack it and bend the hanger. Ordered a Scott replacement from Westbrook, but now the rear wheel will not sit straight and rubs the chain stay.

    I can clamp the wheel in straight and tight but it will always slowly move over the course of a couple of rides so that the tyre is rubbing the stay.

    Anyone recommend a non original replacement, as seems I can't trust the tolerances on the Scott one?
    I have replaced mine with the proper one from Westbrook as my gears weren't running quite right.

    I doubt this is your problem here, but both hangers have needed bending straight.

    My CR1-SL fell over in the garage after I brushed past it with the wheelie-bin. I could see straight away the rear mech was no longer vertical; went online and ordered a replacement from Westbrooks. Good as new with the replacement hanger.

    Thanks for the reply, so looks like I had a dodgy one from Scott. Replaced with 'D272 CNC gear mech hanger / derailleur hanger / SCOTT' from 'gearmechhanger.com' if any one else needs.
  • fat_tail
    fat_tail Posts: 786
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    According to the nice people at Scoot my bike came with a ritchey 1" 1/8 semi integrated with 44 mm cups.
    OK, from what I can work out, your bike possibly has a Ritchey Pro headset:

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobi ... -prod39381

    If everything is in good condition and it's just the bearings that are rough, then replace just the bearings - this is really easy to do. The press fit version of these should fit:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ritchey-pro-headset-bearing/

    Otherwise, the headset I'm fitting should fit - I'll find out later if it works.

    thanks - I have ordered the bearings you suggested. hopefully they will work !
    Compare the old bearings before you open any packaging :)


    Well the nice people in Wiggle sent me the whole headset... except I think its the wrong one ! They sent me a Ritchey WCS Integrated Headset....
    Ridley Fenix SL
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    fat_tail wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    According to the nice people at Scoot my bike came with a ritchey 1" 1/8 semi integrated with 44 mm cups.
    OK, from what I can work out, your bike possibly has a Ritchey Pro headset:

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobi ... -prod39381

    If everything is in good condition and it's just the bearings that are rough, then replace just the bearings - this is really easy to do. The press fit version of these should fit:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ritchey-pro-headset-bearing/

    Otherwise, the headset I'm fitting should fit - I'll find out later if it works.

    thanks - I have ordered the bearings you suggested. hopefully they will work !
    Compare the old bearings before you open any packaging :)


    Well the nice people in Wiggle sent me the whole headset... except I think its the wrong one ! They sent me a Ritchey WCS Integrated Headset....
    Is labelled a drop-in headset? What parts came with it?

    If it is then yes, it's the wrong thing :)

    And no, the bearings aren't interchangeable as far as I'm aware.
  • fat_tail
    fat_tail Posts: 786
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    According to the nice people at Scoot my bike came with a ritchey 1" 1/8 semi integrated with 44 mm cups.
    OK, from what I can work out, your bike possibly has a Ritchey Pro headset:

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobi ... -prod39381

    If everything is in good condition and it's just the bearings that are rough, then replace just the bearings - this is really easy to do. The press fit version of these should fit:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ritchey-pro-headset-bearing/

    Otherwise, the headset I'm fitting should fit - I'll find out later if it works.

    thanks - I have ordered the bearings you suggested. hopefully they will work !
    Compare the old bearings before you open any packaging :)


    Well the nice people in Wiggle sent me the whole headset... except I think its the wrong one ! They sent me a Ritchey WCS Integrated Headset....
    Is labelled a drop-in headset? What parts came with it?

    If it is then yes, it's the wrong thing :)

    And no, the bearings aren't interchangeable as far as I'm aware.

    no - it is labelled press fit 41.0 and 15 mm... at least these boxes are checked...

    PRD 12153/09099
    Ridley Fenix SL
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    fat_tail wrote:
    no - it is labelled press fit 41.0 and 15 mm... at least these boxes are checked...

    PRD 12153/09099
    Well press fit is correct - that'll be the semi integrated (or zero stack) version. 41mm is the bearing size, which also appears to be correct.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    i was under the impression from the number of post about how to fit my headset that they basically just bagged up whatever was laying around, there are plenty of people on here that had to request replacement parts
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • fat_tail
    fat_tail Posts: 786
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    no - it is labelled press fit 41.0 and 15 mm... at least these boxes are checked...

    PRD 12153/09099
    Well press fit is correct - that'll be the semi integrated (or zero stack) version. 41mm is the bearing size, which also appears to be correct.
    now that I have a brand new headset I am tempted to install it... except I will need to get a press fit tool and headset removal tool !
    Ridley Fenix SL
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    fat_tail wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    fat_tail wrote:
    no - it is labelled press fit 41.0 and 15 mm... at least these boxes are checked...

    PRD 12153/09099
    Well press fit is correct - that'll be the semi integrated (or zero stack) version. 41mm is the bearing size, which also appears to be correct.
    now that I have a brand new headset I am tempted to install it... except I will need to get a press fit tool and headset removal tool !
    If it's the same as the one you have already then keep the cups that are already in there. Not only do you need to press in the new cups but you also need to knock out the old ones. I also don't think normal headset remover springs work here, so you'll have to tap them out with a screwdriver or similar.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    God I love my scott, I think it needs to be upgraded though, i'm really not enjoying Shimano 105 5700 groupset, its pants.

    I might even SRAM it ................... :roll:
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.

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