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  • raymondliu
    raymondliu Posts: 56
    The allen bolt in the supplied expander bung has become stuck and now the whole thing won't stay in, it's loose and I can't adjust it so just pops out of the steerer tube if I go over rough surfaces. Would similar products to this be a suitable replacement http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/vp-c ... prod108087
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    raymondliu wrote:
    The allen bolt in the supplied expander bung has become stuck and now the whole thing won't stay in, it's loose and I can't adjust it so just pops out of the steerer tube if I go over rough surfaces. Would similar products to this be a suitable replacement http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/vp-c ... prod108087

    Yes.

    Odd how have you got the allen bolt stuck? The expander supplied isn't the best and I had to swap one out on one of my CR1s.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    frazered wrote:
    Yes. I have the same wheels. Running 23mm grand prixs. Had 25mm gp4000s on and it was a little too close the rear for me. There was still clearance though only a few mm.

    Have to say that I bottled it and bought 23mm GP4000S.
  • samsbike
    samsbike Posts: 942
    shameless plug but my cr1 f&f is up for sale.

    I just dont ride enough to warrant it unfortunately.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    I was considering riding mine on the Rapha hell of the north although most people seem to recommend a CX for the event ...hmmmm!??
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    itboffin wrote:
    I was considering riding mine on the Rapha hell of the north although most people seem to recommend a CX for the event ...hmmmm!??

    Why CX?
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    meanredspider wrote:
    itboffin wrote:
    I was considering riding mine on the Rapha hell of the north although most people seem to recommend a CX for the event ...hmmmm!??

    Why CX?

    It gets muddy in Chiswick......
    Faster than a tent.......
  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    Rolf F wrote:
    meanredspider wrote:
    itboffin wrote:
    I was considering riding mine on the Rapha hell of the north although most people seem to recommend a CX for the event ...hmmmm!??

    Why CX?

    It gets muddy in Chiswick......
    Well, it's certainly muddier than it is North.
    Sun - Rain - Snow
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    I know I looked that thinking "Hell of the North" - interesting. London? What?
  • frazered
    frazered Posts: 333
    markhewitt1978 wrote:
    frazered wrote:
    Yes. I have the same wheels. Running 23mm grand prixs. Had 25mm gp4000s on and it was a little too close the rear for me. There was still clearance though only a few mm.

    Have to say that I bottled it and bought 23mm GP4000S.
    You have already got 23mm rims so the 23 to 25 mm tyre difference in terms of comfort will be really small. You have made the right decision. The gp4000s are wider than most tyres already.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    frazered wrote:
    You have already got 23mm rims so the 23 to 25 mm tyre difference in terms of comfort will be really small. You have made the right decision. The gp4000s are wider than most tyres already.

    They are. I spent much of last year looking at other bikes on sportives etc and wondering why everyones tyres seemed narrower than mine - it's because they are!
  • solstice21
    solstice21 Posts: 321
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    markhewitt1978 wrote:
    I know I looked that thinking "Hell of the North" - interesting. London? What?

    yeah its very much an off-on road event, i think there's even a prize for the highest number of visits from the PF
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    just pulled the trigger on a pair of Vittoria open pave 25c with any luck they'll arrive in time for next weekends hell of the north V

    i'm actually surprised that the CR1 SL has more tyre clearance than my Ribble sportive
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    itboffin wrote:
    just pulled the trigger on a pair of Vittoria open pave 25c with any luck they'll arrive in time for next weekends hell of the north V

    i'm actually surprised that the CR1 SL has more tyre clearance than my Ribble sportive

    Great tyres - loads of grip on wet cobbles. Good puncture resistance too. Not the fastest tyres but the grip makes up for that.
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    sadly speed wont be a factor for either the Rapha event or the LBL a couple of weeks later, endurance used to be my only strength alas no more :(

    but hopefully two more great memorable events for my old(er) age
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    itboffin wrote:
    sadly speed wont be a factor for either the Rapha event or the LBL a couple of weeks later, endurance used to be my only strength alas no more :(

    but hopefully two more great memorable events for my old(er) age

    Sounds like fun events at least - and it's better to stay upright and with minimal fairy visits that just fast between these downers.
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Changed the chainset on my CR1 from a R565 to Ultegra 6800, rides much better now.

    Currently weighs in at 7.7kg (according to bathroom scales) as picture below. I'm looking to change the saddle and seatpost but I'm not sure there's anything else I can realistically do to get the weight down any more?

    Frame: Scott 2012 CR1 HMF 52cm
    Fork: Scott 2012 CR1 HMF
    Headset: Richey
    Bottle Cages: Bontrager RL
    Stem: Bontrager Race Lite 80mm 7deg
    Bars: Pro PLT Compact Drop
    Computer: Cateye Micro Wireless

    Brakes: Shimano Ultegra 6800
    Pads: Shimano Ultegra 6800

    Shifters: Shimano Ultegra 6700
    Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra 6700
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra 6700
    Cables: Shimano M system
    Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 6700 12-30
    Chain: Shimano Ultegra 6700
    Chainset: Shimano Ultegra 6800 50-34 170mm
    Bottom Bracket: As suppied with Scott frame
    Pedals: Shimano M980 XTR

    Wheels: Shimano RS80 C24
    Tyres: Continental GP4000S 23mm
    Tubes: Bontrager Standard
    Saddle: Bontrager Affinity 1
    Seatpost: BBB BSP-20

    KoH3ix5.jpg
  • timothyw
    timothyw Posts: 2,482
    markhewitt1978 wrote:
    Currently weighs in at 7.7kg (according to bathroom scales) as picture below. I'm looking to change the saddle and seatpost but I'm not sure there's anything else I can realistically do to get the weight down any more?

    Slam the stem and trim the steerer?
  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    Seatpost and saddle are nearly 300g each, those should be the first things to change. As for anything else, it may be a case of MTFU as anything weighing much less will be marginal gains and very expensive.
    Sun - Rain - Snow
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    Seatpost and saddle are nearly 300g each, those should be the first things to change. As for anything else, it may be a case of MTFU as anything weighing much less will be marginal gains and very expensive.

    Yeah seatpost and saddle are going; not sure what I'm going to replace them with yet mind. And yeah I figured everything else would only be marginal - thus not worthwhile, just wondering if there was anything obvious I'd missed.
  • jonny_trousers
    jonny_trousers Posts: 3,588
    You could swap the frame to an SL?
  • itsnotarace
    itsnotarace Posts: 518
    Saddle and seatpost first definitely if they are 300g each

    Also other low-ish cost upgrades

    60g or more by swapping to road pedals
    Skewers (Planet X Ti are 43g pair for £20), compared to 130g for Shimano skewers
    Chain - KMC X10SL saves around 25g over Ultegra
    Brake calipers - 120g saved over Ultegra with Planet X CNC brakes

    That's another ~300g without spending massive money
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    itsnotarace wrote:
    Skewers (Planet X Ti are 43g pair for £20), compared to 130g for Shimano skewers

    Going internal to external cam isn't really a great decision despite the weight saving.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    Rolf F wrote:
    itsnotarace wrote:
    Skewers (Planet X Ti are 43g pair for £20), compared to 130g for Shimano skewers

    Going internal to external cam isn't really a great decision despite the weight saving.
    As above. I value my life slightly more than a tiny weight saving. I suppose lawyer lips exist for a reason.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Some good advice. I think my best bet is to go for the best saddle and seatpost I can, then declare my build complete!
  • itsnotarace
    itsnotarace Posts: 518
    patrickf wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    itsnotarace wrote:
    Skewers (Planet X Ti are 43g pair for £20), compared to 130g for Shimano skewers

    Going internal to external cam isn't really a great decision despite the weight saving.
    As above. I value my life slightly more than a tiny weight saving. I suppose lawyer lips exist for a reason.

    Fair enough :)

    Not posted any updates on mine for a while.

    Old pics

    a97n.jpg

    4el6.jpg

    Changed pedals to Look Keo Ti Blade2's 183.8g pair (44g saved) and DA cassette 184g (54g saved). Bike is now 6170 grams. Still scope to lose another 70 or 80g swapping from alu to carbon bars. Not sure where to find the last 100 grams to get it sub 6
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Super nice :D DA cassettes are eye wateringly expensive. I wouldn't mind spending that sort of money on something which I thought would last the life of the bike, but cassettes are essentially consumables.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    itsnotarace wrote:
    Not sure where to find the last 100 grams to get it sub 6

    10 speed might be lighter! Look at the Deda Superleggera/Superleggero bars and stem for a possibly greater weight saving than you expect (good price at Ribble). Smaller cassette if your hills are shallow enough. Lose a bottle cage.

    Good effort on getting it so light with alloy bars though I suppose the wheels have a lot to do with it.

    Just sourced a carbon monocoque seatpost for £45 for mine so there's really not anything left stopping me from building it (aside from having to get the BB out).
    markhewitt1978 wrote:
    Super nice :D DA cassettes are eye wateringly expensive. I wouldn't mind spending that sort of money on something which I thought would last the life of the bike, but cassettes are essentially consumables.

    Depends on how you look at it. If you ride in dry weather only, cassettes pretty much last forever. Unless they are Dura Ace in which case the carbon fails! :lol:
    Faster than a tent.......
  • mtb-idle
    mtb-idle Posts: 2,179
    itsnotarace wrote:
    Not sure where to find the last 100 grams to get it sub 6

    lose one water bottle carrier and the garmin?

    saw off the bottom six inches of the seatpost?
    FCN = 4

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