The Scott CR1 SL Thread

patrickf

pete54 wrote:

Someone in an earlier post mentioned the possibility that the front mech cable might cut into the frame where it goes through the hole behind the bottom bracket shell. I noticed when cleaning my bike that Condor have fitted a 'sheath' (for want of a better word!) over the bare cable where it passes through the hole.

Got any pics?

pete54

It's difficult to photograph but it looks a bit like that heat shrinkable insulation you use on electric cables. Maybe that's what it is.

itboffin

Nope mines been fine, it needs a good lubing after all the hot sweaty mountain rides but other than that solid as a rock.

It'll be back in action tomorrow morning for a pre work hill session.

kjab

Hiya, I've got another couple of questions that I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on. CR1 SL with 6770 Di2 build;

1) braze on Di2 front mech has a support pin at the back which is meant to push against a (provided) pad that you stick onto the frame. My mech has to go so low on the plate that this pin lies opposite the bolt holding the braze-on plate. Will this affect shifting? I can't fit the support pad otherwise the mech sticks out too much

2) junction box - according to install instructions should be bolted into the bottom bracket hole which unfortunately is not present. I have wrapped some electrical tape around the box then used a "no more nails" sticky adhesive pad to hold it to the BB. Any other suggestions to provide a more secure fixation?

Cheers

meanredspider

kjab wrote:

2) junction box - according to install instructions should be bolted into the bottom bracket hole which unfortunately is not present. I have wrapped some electrical tape around the box then used a "no more nails" sticky adhesive pad to hold it to the BB. Any other suggestions to provide a more secure fixation?

Cheers

Is there not a cable guide under the BB? That's what you normally replace with the junction box

itboffin

Wow I just noticed i've done 2300 miles on my SL that's pretty good going seeing as I dont use it for commuting.

bought it some new bar tape to match the fizik saddle 8)

kjab

meanredspider wrote:

Is there not a cable guide under the BB? That's what you normally replace with the junction box

Cable guide is stuck on with a bit of double sided adhesive padding unfortunately, no screw hole there as far as I can see..

jonny_trousers

Ah bugger! I do love this bike, but I just can't get fully comfortable on it. It's not the bike's fault; it's my crappy inflexible upper back. At this rate I can see me swapping it for a Roubaix before too long

itboffin

Took the Scott out for a quick hangover recovery ride, and got caught out in a small shower, brrrrr summer is over

But anyway the SL is a such a pleasure to ride, its weird because had it not been for that amazing offer I would never have even considered a Scott bike.

PS. The R5 is still safely inside the house, warm & dry

patrickf

itboffin wrote:

Took the Scott out for a quick hangover recovery ride, and got caught out in a small shower, brrrrr summer is over

But anyway the SL is a such a pleasure to ride, its weird because had it not been for that amazing offer I would never have even considered a Scott bike.

PS. The R5 is still safely inside the house, warm & dry

You got it wet?? :shock:

Without mudguards??

itboffin

Yes and at the end of the Marmotte I left it unlocked just hanging from a fence (with 1000s of other bikes) whilst I wandered off looking for FOOD :shock:

patrickf

Finished my build last night and took her for a 45 mile ride today. Wow! Quite a difference to the Trek 1.5 that's now the dedicated commuter.

itboffin

LOL my Trek 1.7 became the commuter just before I bought the Scott now my Ribble carbon is dry commuter, Trek is wet commuter, who knows perhaps one day my Cervelo R5 will be my wet commuter :shock:

graham.

So. After swapping everything over to my new larger version, I now have an immaculate, hardly used medium (54) CR1 Comp frameset surplus to requirements.
Any use to anyone?
Am I best to put it in "Classifieds" and hope someone sees it before it disappears of the front page?

patrickf

Graham. wrote:

So. After swapping everything over to my new larger version, I now have an immaculate, hardly used medium (54) CR1 Comp frameset surplus to requirements.
Any use to anyone?
Am I best to put it in "Classifieds" and hope someone sees it before it disappears of the front page?

Funny I was just saying to my father in law that I hadn't seen any of the "now common as muck" CR1s on the road. You're not far from me.

I dare say though it would be snapped up in a flash if you put that up in the classifieds.

jonny_trousers

Graham. wrote:

So. After swapping everything over to my new larger version, I now have an immaculate, hardly used medium (54) CR1 Comp frameset surplus to requirements.
Any use to anyone?
Am I best to put it in "Classifieds" and hope someone sees it before it disappears of the front page?

Yes. You can always give it a cheeky bump if it does disappear off the front page, but I suspect, if the price is right, you'll find a buyer easily enough.

Coincidentally I have a feeling I may have gone for too small a frame originally too (the short top tube/long stem combination doesn't seem to suit my crappy back) so I might be looking for someone wanting to swap their 56 for a 54. We'll see.

samsbike

Its funny about frame sizes I wonder if I should have got the 58 instead of the 56 lol

samsbike

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

Ah bugger! I do love this bike, but I just can't get fully comfortable on it. It's not the bike's fault; it's my crappy inflexible upper back. At this rate I can see me swapping it for a Roubaix before too long

Have you tried one of the higher angled Specialized stems?

graham.

Ok, I'll probably stick it in classified, though I'd far prefer whoever wants it to collect, and more importantly, see it first.

jonny_trousers

samsbike wrote:

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

Ah bugger! I do love this bike, but I just can't get fully comfortable on it. It's not the bike's fault; it's my crappy inflexible upper back. At this rate I can see me swapping it for a Roubaix before too long

Have you tried one of the higher angled Specialized stems?

Thanks! I've not tried an incline to the stem at all yet, but I think I'd rather not. I'm using the maximum stack of spacers as it is.

My issue has always been that after 20 miles or so I begin to feel a fair amount of neck/shoulder tension that can last for days and some hand pain too. My recent bike fit had me installing a 90mm stem, and so assuming my 56cm Genesis Equilibrium was therefore way too long for me with a 100mm stem on it, I put a 90mm stem on that too and it's never felt more comfortable. I'll try the CR1 with a 100mm stem again (maybe even try the 110 again) to see if that improves things, but perhaps the saddle to bars drop will feel too big for an old git like me. In defence of my bike fitter, I've changed my riding position a little since seeing him so maybe a short stem on a short frame (for my height) is no longer the answer. It's bloody annoying having a bike that is such a joy to ride, yet leaves me uncomfortable in the saddle.

patrickf

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

samsbike wrote:

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

Ah bugger! I do love this bike, but I just can't get fully comfortable on it. It's not the bike's fault; it's my crappy inflexible upper back. At this rate I can see me swapping it for a Roubaix before too long

Have you tried one of the higher angled Specialized stems?

Thanks! I've not tried an incline to the stem at all yet, but I think I'd rather not. I'm using the maximum stack of spacers as it is.

My issue has always been that after 20 miles or so I begin to feel a fair amount of neck/shoulder tension that can last for days and some hand pain too. My recent bike fit had me installing a 90mm stem, and so assuming my 56cm Genesis Equilibrium was therefore way too long for me with a 100mm stem on it, I put a 90mm stem on that too and it's never felt more comfortable. I'll try the CR1 with a 100mm stem again (maybe even try the 110 again) to see if that improves things, but perhaps the saddle to bars drop will feel too big for an old git like me. In defence of my bike fitter, I've changed my riding position a little since seeing him so maybe a short stem on a short frame (for my height) is no longer the answer. It's bloody annoying having a bike that is such a joy to ride, yet leaves me uncomfortable in the saddle.

You can flip the stem to give you more "lift" without affecting the spacer stack.

Also don't forget that the stem length is linked to the top tube length and saddle set back. Change any of the other variables and your stem length needs to change too.

shamone

Did a 50 miler on mine 10 days ago and still can't move my neck in the morning Came from a Specialized Secteur Sport which had a very comfortable geometry. I'm going to try moving from a 10cm stem to 6cm which should match the Secteur.

samsbike

Shamone wrote:

Did a 50 miler on mine 10 days ago and still can't move my neck in the morning Came from a Specialized Secteur Sport which had a very comfortable geometry. I going to try moving from a 10cm stem to 6cm which should match the Secteur.

thats a big difference, good luck.

If the secteur is anything like the roubaix it may also have a longer headtube so you may want to consider, raising the stem or getting one with a bigger angle.

itboffin

There seem to be a bit of a recurring theme here, ie loads of spacers and trouble with flexibility etc. it beg the question, why not start a routine of stretching to improve your flexibility and ultimately comfort and even performance on the bike?

I'm far from young or thin, but due to a beer/cycling related injury have been forced to at the very least perform the odd token gesture by way of post ride stretching, not only does it keep the pain at bay but it does help as i mentioned above.

I should also say so does beer but it does also increase the risks of being a fat bloater who crashes into stuff as well :roll:

jonny_trousers

itboffin wrote:

There seem to be a bit of a recurring theme here, ie loads of spacers and trouble with flexibility etc. it beg the question, why not start a routine of stretching to improve your flexibility and ultimately comfort and even performance on the bike?

I'm far from young or thin, but due to a beer/cycling related injury have been forced to at the very least perform the odd token gesture by way of post ride stretching, not only does it keep the pain at bay but it does help as i mentioned above.

I should also say so does beer but it does also increase the risks of being a fat bloater who crashes into stuff as well :roll:

I'm being a little too general when I blame my crap flexibility. I've always had a very rigid upper back, no matter how much stretching I do, but I'm actually not convinced this is my problem on the CR1 anyway. For some reason I've had a tendency to hunch up my shoulders, which puts strain on my neck resulting in painful stiffness and sometimes headaches. I do have a feeling I can beat it by keeping a close eye on my positioning and technique, however. In addition, I'm also not convinced my recent bike fit set things up correctly for me, so I'll keep on fiddling.

I had to commute in and out twice today, and on the second run, with heavy legs, I took the CR1 and it was crazy quick.

Wheelspinner

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

I'm being a little too general when I blame my crap flexibility. I've always had a very rigid upper back, no matter how much stretching I do, but I'm actually not convinced this is my problem on the CR1 anyway. For some reason I've had a tendency to hunch up my shoulders, which puts strain on my neck resulting in painful stiffness and sometimes headaches. I do have a feeling I can beat it by keeping a close eye on my positioning and technique, however. In addition, I'm also not convinced my recent bike fit set things up correctly for me, so I'll keep on fiddling.

I had to commute in and out twice today, and on the second run, with heavy legs, I took the CR1 and it was crazy quick.

Just as a suggestion, and it may sound odd, but I'd suggest you try *dropping* the stem a fraction and getting a slightly longer one. Hunched up shoulders is something I am prone to, and the best fix I found was to use a 10mm longer stem, and removed a 5 mm spacer. Forced me to drop my arms and reach a little more, which meant no more hunchback look.


Worth a try perhaps. So is ITB's stretching tip, although that takes a while...

jonny_trousers

Wheelspinner wrote:

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

I'm being a little too general when I blame my crap flexibility. I've always had a very rigid upper back, no matter how much stretching I do, but I'm actually not convinced this is my problem on the CR1 anyway. For some reason I've had a tendency to hunch up my shoulders, which puts strain on my neck resulting in painful stiffness and sometimes headaches. I do have a feeling I can beat it by keeping a close eye on my positioning and technique, however. In addition, I'm also not convinced my recent bike fit set things up correctly for me, so I'll keep on fiddling.

I had to commute in and out twice today, and on the second run, with heavy legs, I took the CR1 and it was crazy quick.

Just as a suggestion, and it may sound odd, but I'd suggest you try *dropping* the stem a fraction and getting a slightly longer one. Hunched up shoulders is something I am prone to, and the best fix I found was to use a 10mm longer stem, and removed a 5 mm spacer. Forced me to drop my arms and reach a little more, which meant no more hunchback look.


Worth a try perhaps. So is ITB's stretching tip, although that takes a while...

Thanks for the suggestion! Funnily enough my gut instinct was taking me in that direction. I put the 100mm stem back on this afternoon (having been on the bike fit recommended 90) and if felt pretty good. I've even got a 110mm I can try. I'll try dropping the stem a bit too. I think I may have made a mistake dropping down a size on the bars with this build too.

In terms of technique, I've been letting my upper body drop lower and further forwards, which seems to help relieve the shoulder tension.

Thanks for the thoughts guys.

UndercoverElephant

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

I think I may have made a mistake dropping down a size on the bars with this build too.

This would certainly cause hunching shoulders and pain. Too wide is OK, but a little un-aero, too narrow can cause quite a lot of shoulder pain.

jds_1981

The fail is strong in this thread. What happened to slamming your stems? :P

jds_1981

jds_1981 wrote:

The fail is strong in this thread. What happened to slamming your stems? :P

PS, I'd be willing to take a 54 cm frame off anyones hand, purchase price minus a bit for wear & tear