The Scott CR1 SL Thread

itboffin

its a bloody good job i keep the hammers in my man-cave out of easy reach because this afternoon when i had to abort my ride in favour of more ShimaNO 105 5700 rear mech indexing i could quite easily smashed the living shit out of everything nearby :evil: :twisted: :evil:

What engineering TOOL signed 5700 off as fit for the consumer market :evil:

what sort of QA process must they have? oh yes it doesnt matter if shifting is so random you cant tell if you're changing one or two gears at a time and this time it'll shift next time maybe not.

ha ha what fun!

indyp

itboffin wrote:

its a bloody good job i keep the hammers in my man-cave out of easy reach because this afternoon when i had to abort my ride in favour of more ShimaNO 105 5700 rear mech indexing i could quite easily smashed the living shoot out of everything nearby :evil: :twisted: :evil:

What engineering TOOL signed 5700 off as fit for the consumer market :evil:

what sort of QA process must they have? oh yes it doesnt matter if shifting is so random you cant tell if you're changing one or two gears at a time and this time it'll shift next time maybe not.

ha ha what fun!

Oh the feeling after though having smashed up that lovely frame! They will definately index properly once set-up but they do take a bit of playing around with when new

itboffin

I rode Ultegra di2 last month and even well set up its sucks hairy balls compared to campag, plus who decided that pushing a tiny metal/carbon/plastic lever was so much effort that it needed to be made electronic ????

seriously the most useless bit of bicycle engineering since the invention of the velo, buuut I'm guessing ShimaNO have an ulterior motive, i think when they decided to hide the gear cabling they found it so difficult to achieve smooth shifting that they had to invent auto trimming to enable semi smooth changes.

It's truly awful

spasypaddy

but EPS is necessary?

you are the worst kind of fanboy

itboffin

spasypaddy wrote:

but EPS is necessary?

you are the worst kind of fanboy

If your bike is fettling itself then more than half the fun has been taken away.

daniel_b

itboffin wrote:

what sort of QA process must they have? oh yes it doesnt matter if shifting is so random you cant tell if you're changing one or two gears at a time and this time it'll shift next time maybe not.

I'm quite concerned now, seeing as you know what your doing and I do not, so if you cannot get it working..... :?

itboffin

oh i have it working for now at least and as i keep saying its a PITA

if you can wait until the week after next you're more than welcome to come over here and do your build, whilst i watch and laugh of course

itboffin

Had to keep stopping to fettle the bike and almost missed my train, bloody thing

turnstyle

Cheers guys!

I was a bit worried about the white saddle/bars too so I bought both. Really happy I stuck with white though. I was also tossing up whether to go Ultegra or Dura Ace but decided to treat myself when I saw the price for it at Merlin. Got a pair of new C35s coming soon too which should work well with the silver/black colour scheme. Came in at just over 7kgs too which most of that is wheels i'm guessing.

Only had time so far to take it for a quick 10k run around the block and PB'd everything just wearing jeans and a t-shirt. Probably more to do with me being excited than the bike itself. It didn't feel too much different to my Felt F4, but i'll reserve judgement until I get a chance to take it out to the hills.

markhewitt1978

turnstyle wrote:

. I was also tossing up whether to go Ultegra or Dura Ace but decided to treat myself when I saw the price for it at Merlin.

Well; it would be rude not to

Koncordski

itboffin wrote:

Had to keep stopping to fettle the bike and almost missed my train, bloody thing

This is rapidly turning into the 'ITB can't operate Shimano' thread. MTFU

SimonInd

For those who want an easy life, of which I count myself, I can highly recommend an Ultegra compact (£125) with whatever gears you want. I'm running late 00's Campag Centaur and it works a treat without the need to swap out the BB.

pete54

simonlnd wrote:

I can highly recommend an Ultegra compact

Pity Shimano's chainsets are so ugly though...

scottarm

Just finished my daughrts build all finished for under a grand, nice bit of kit!!

markhewitt1978

Lovely! Nice to see a bit of colour! But; drive side please

itboffin

Mine's currently locked up at a country train station 100 miles away, what could possibly go wrong :?

keef66

itboffin wrote:

Mine's currently locked up at a country train station 100 miles away, what could possibly go wrong :?

Sweet baby Jesus! Our youngest used to lock his bike up at Newmarket station when he was going to 6th form college, and I lost track of the number of times I had to go and rescue him and whatever was left of the bike :shock:

asprilla

I guess this is why they are flooding the CR1s onto the market: http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... kes-37751/

Gazzaputt

Anyone suffering with slight play in the headset?

Every ride it seem it loosens a minute amount but enough to feel under braking. I've stripped it down twice now to no avail.

Westbrook confirmed I had all the correct parts. The only thing I can see is supplied Scoot spacer doesn't sit flush on bearing cover and this is where the play comes from.

markhewitt1978

Asprilla wrote:

I guess this is why they are flooding the CR1s onto the market: http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... kes-37751/

Interesing, so, no more CR1's then. Shame really.

itboffin

keef66 wrote:

itboffin wrote:

Mine's currently locked up at a country train station 100 miles away, what could possibly go wrong :?

Sweet baby Jesus! Our youngest used to lock his bike up at Newmarket station when he was going to 6th form college, and I lost track of the number of times I had to go and rescue him and whatever was left of the bike :shock:

I know but i need to get some saddle time on the damn thing before i take it to the Alps next week and of course do something about the rear indexing.

markhewitt1978

itboffin wrote:

I know but i need to get some saddle time on the damn thing before i take it to the Alps next week and of course do something about the rear indexing.

You hope you're taking to the Alps, perhaps whoever has the bike now has other ideas

keef66

Gazzaputt wrote:

Anyone suffering with slight play in the headset?

Every ride it seem it loosens a minute amount but enough to feel under braking. I've stripped it down twice now to no avail.

Westbrook confirmed I had all the correct parts. The only thing I can see is supplied Scoot spacer doesn't sit flush on bearing cover and this is where the play comes from.

My headset is very loose indeed. It's still in it's plastic bag in the box. Hoping to get round to it at the weekend...

patrickf

markhewitt1978 wrote:

itboffin wrote:

I know but i need to get some saddle time on the damn thing before i take it to the Alps next week and of course do something about the rear indexing.

You hope you're taking to the Alps, perhaps whoever has the bike now has other ideas

And whoever has it now has probably also indexed the RD properly too :twisted:

Adam_G

Interesing, so, no more CR1's then. Shame really.

I suspect the main reason is Di2. These frames will have been built maybe 18 months ago, and I suspect they've seen how successful Di2 has been - particularly Ultegra, a big seller on ready-built bikes - and made a decision that all the frames they produce should be compatible with both mechanical and electronic groupsets. It's far more cost effective to have a standard product range.

Probably exactly the same reason that there were all those half price Cervelos at the back end of last year.

I've benefited from both - I've got no intention of going electronic in the foreseeable future, so I've now got a lovely R5 and a CR1 SL for a LOT less than RRP.

galatzo

Been wondering which seat post to use and found an old 27.2 Easton EC70 with a metal shim on it. Looked on Wiggle for a lighter shim and on reading the reviews one stated

"Very light and well made. However bought to use with a 27.2mm seatpost in a new scott CR1 frame which needs a 31.6mm seatpost. Unfortunately the frame states that only 31.6mm seatposts must be used, and shims are not recommended. Returned as a result."

Is anyone using a post with a shim and is it ok ?
Do you think most manufacturers recommend against using posts with shims on their frames ?
Surely it's as easy to over tighten a badly made 31.6 seatpost as it is a 27.2 with a shim ?
So would you use one or are you using one ?
FWIW I'd only have approx. 15cm of post showing from seatpost clamp to saddle rails.

gozzy

CR1 Pro turned up this afternoon and I've a few build questions, mainly grease/carbon assembly paste related.

I think I read in this thread that the headset cups/bearings can go on dry, no grease/paste required. Correct? It's a slightly different headset than the SLs come with in that the cups/bearings are one unit. I may yet get lbs to do the headset and cut the steerer.

Assembly paste is needed for the seat tube, then grease everywhere else you'd usually use it right? Or are there any other places I need to use assembly paste?
Ta!

gozzy

Also, anyone with the pro know if those deda dog fangs fit?

vermin

Asprilla wrote:

I guess this is why they are flooding the CR1s onto the market: http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... kes-37751/

The new Solace? Is it just me? So, Scott now has an Addict, a Foil and a Solace. I suppose I understand what CR is short for...

asprilla

vermin wrote:

Asprilla wrote:

I guess this is why they are flooding the CR1s onto the market: http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... kes-37751/

The new Solace? Is it just me? So, Scott now has an Addict, a Foil and a Solace. I suppose I understand what CR is short for...

Dole it out cheap to hook your user base and then jack the prices up. Classic.