Chicken sings

frenchfighter

People often quote that stage as an example of Contador doping. People should look at the results - he only put 1min into Evans, Sastre and their group by the end and 40odd seconds at the top of that climb. That is chump change compared to the time gaps in countless other attacks by 'dopers'.

He has also been able to do that sort of acceleration whenever he wanted to for the next 6 years time after time - in fact to greater effect.

Rasmussen was also a walking chemical factory - just like Kohl - in the body of pretty average rider. So if Contador's natural level of talent is 75 and Ras starts with a 50 but the drugs take him to 70-80 then you don't need to be a doper to stay with the chicken, but the chicken needs to be a doper to stay with Contador et al. Note how while at CWO (when he didn't dope) he was a complete non-entity.

dave milne

I'd rather cite the Aubisque stage. Contador and Leipheimer who we know was doping trying to do a 1-2 on Rasmussen

3 riders juiced to the nines and poor cadel hanging off the back

Macaloon

rob churchill wrote:

sherer wrote:

so it seems the tests are now slightly harder to pass but you can still pass them. Seems that unlike LA he has properly told everything, including how he did it and who helped. Hopefully this will help the sport in the long run

Indeed. I understand that he faced a battery of questions, followed by a free-ranging discussion of the issues. Hopefully that will go some way to avoiding any bad korma.

OK. Now you're just showing off. By all means keep it up.

thomthom

BIG NEWS COMING IN!!

Hang tight!!

Richmond Racer

Thom Thom, you're our man on the ground, no question

blazing_saddles

dave milne wrote:

I'd rather cite the Aubisque stage. Contador and Leipheimer who we know was doping trying to do a 1-2 on Rasmussen

3 riders juiced to the nines and poor cadel hanging off the back

Cadel must be well hung.
Still managed to beat one of those 3 in the GC.

frenchfighter

dave milne wrote:

I'd rather cite the Aubisque stage. Contador and Leipheimer who we know was doping trying to do a 1-2 on Rasmussen

3 riders juiced to the nines and poor cadel hanging off the back

You can use the same points above for that stage also. Levi's natural level, probably higher than Ras's but still well below Contador's.

In fact looking at the results it is even easier. Contador finished a whopping 8 secs in front of Evans.

Stage 14 is the one that should be cited because the results looked like this, but even then it isn't so much and Evans had an off day as well as cracking after trying to follow the deadly accelerations. Pretty slow average speed.

1 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 5.25.48 (36.28 km/h)
2 Michael Rasmussen (Den) Rabobank
3 Mauricio Soler (Col) Barloworld 0.37
4 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.40
5 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Team CSC 0.53
6 Andreas Klöden (Ger) Astana 1.52
7 Cadel Evans (Aus) Predictor - Lotto

salsiccia1

ThomThom wrote:

BIG NEWS COMING IN!!

Hang tight!!

Don't tell me - someone's confessing to not doping

frenchfighter

Nicki Sørensen on doping rumors: "As far as I know it's only rumors. I have no further comments"

Richmond Racer

Salsiccia1 wrote:

ThomThom wrote:

BIG NEWS COMING IN!!

Hang tight!!

Don't tell me - someone's confessing to not doping

Its not the Crown Prince is it?

above_the_cows

Did you know that there are breeds of chicken known as the following:

Combattant de Liège
Coucou des Flandres
La Flèche

And one for the Cav fans:

Manx Rumpy

I kid you not these are all breeds of chicken. The internet is truly a thing of wonder.

frenchfighter

Michael Rasmussen interview on tv. "During my career I've tried out different methods so I could "fine tune" myself to top when needed"
"I had a lot of freedom at Rabobank and they didn't ask any questions. They just expected I was fast on the bike"
"I needed the time in Italy - not Mexico - to prepare myself with the best doping. EPO, GH, Testoteron etc."
"I was constantly "positive" in the time before the Tour, so I had to be a place where they couldn't test me"
Question: Why didn't they test you positive during the Tour? Answer: "I guess the tests weren't that good"
Q: Why did you keep on doping in when you were banned? Rasmussen: I was sure a lot of teams wanted to sign the best climber in the world.
"I thought I would come back after my ban and win the Vuelta the same year. I thought many teams wanted to sign the best climber"

My son is 7 now & I've done this so, if he wants to be a cyclist, he can join a sport a win the Tour as a clean rider in 20 years
I stopped to dope when I joined CWO because I knew that my time at the highest level was over. I would never ride the Tour again.

thomthom

Apparently Alpe D'Huez has been tested postive for illegal substances!! Tests from the surface at the Dutch Corner were alarmingly positive. Both A and B tests. Still unknown what kind of substances we are talking about here.

The foot of the mountain will arrange a press release within the next few days. This could might well get very dirty.

thomthom

This just never ends, does it?...

salsiccia1

ThomThom wrote:

Apparently Alpe D'Huez has been tested postive for illegal substances!! Tests from the surface at the Dutch Corner were alarmingly positive. Both A and B tests. Still unknown what kind of substances we are talking about here.

The foot of the mountain will arrange a press release within the next few days. This could might well get very dirty.

Dutch Corner? I think I'll pull up a chair for this one...

Richmond Racer

Above The Cows wrote:

Did you know that there are breeds of chicken known as the following:

Combattant de Liège
Coucou des Flandres
La Flèche

And one for the Cav fans:

Manx Rumpy

I kid you not these are all breeds of chicken. The internet is truly a thing of wonder.

Does the Manx Rumpy get the ar^s if it doesnt get its own way at feed time?

ddraver

Salsiccia1 wrote:

ThomThom wrote:

Apparently Alpe D'Huez has been tested postive for illegal substances!! Tests from the surface at the Dutch Corner were alarmingly positive. Both A and B tests. Still unknown what kind of substances we are talking about here.

The foot of the mountain will arrange a press release within the next few days. This could might well get very dirty.

Dutch Corner? I think I'll pull up a chair for this one...

I still have nt found a Dutchie that can explain that yet...

above_the_cows

ddraver wrote:

Salsiccia1 wrote:

ThomThom wrote:

Apparently Alpe D'Huez has been tested postive for illegal substances!! Tests from the surface at the Dutch Corner were alarmingly positive. Both A and B tests. Still unknown what kind of substances we are talking about here.

The foot of the mountain will arrange a press release within the next few days. This could might well get very dirty.

Dutch Corner? I think I'll pull up a chair for this one...

I still have nt found a Dutchie that can explain that yet...

Me neither. People think I'm really odd when I ask especially when accompanying it with a rendition of 'schatje mag ik je foto'. I may have done this last night... The boss may have been present. :oops:

Richmond Racer wrote:

Does the Manx Rumpy get the ar^s if it doesnt get its own way at feed time?

I hear it only get's like that when Griepel wins those (chicken) sh*t small races.

LeicesterLad

above_the_cows

He really wasn't pretty on a bike was he?

shinyhelmut

Above The Cows wrote:

Chapeau to all on a thoroughly entertaining thread, brilliant chicken references all round and a special cheer for the Borgen reference. I think all the chicken-themed puns have been covered, I certainly can't think of anymore, it's been a long day and I'm in need of a kip.

If you really think about it I'm sure you can pluck one out of the air.

LeicesterLad

The Chicken better keep clucking today because I've got a boring as sh*t day at work ahead.

Outsider art by Loan

powerbookboy wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Anti-Doping Danmark: "After our talks with Michael Rasmussen, we can see that it actually got worse after the Festina case..."

I suppose everyone had to get a lot more professional, organised and institutionalised.

Still, it confirms one thing. Contador doped in 2007. There's no way he could have done this clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRqxW9Jyt8
.

Awesome. Alberto doesn't ride like that anymore, though.

ddraver

LeicesterLad wrote:

The Chicken better keep clucking today because I've got a boring as sh*t day at work ahead.

ha ha, me too - we can start a Schleck v Contador argument if you like...?

frenchfighter

Outsider art by Loan wrote:

powerbookboy wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Anti-Doping Danmark: "After our talks with Michael Rasmussen, we can see that it actually got worse after the Festina case..."

I suppose everyone had to get a lot more professional, organised and institutionalised.

Still, it confirms one thing. Contador doped in 2007. There's no way he could have done this clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRqxW9Jyt8
.

Awesome. Alberto doesn't ride like that anymore, though.

You should watch more racing.

LeicesterLad

ddraver wrote:

LeicesterLad wrote:

The Chicken better keep clucking today because I've got a boring as sh*t day at work ahead.

ha ha, me too - we can start a Schleck v Contador argument if you like...?

Frank and Alberto may as well be the same person now. Just that one is a lot more classy on the bike than the other.

Between Fuentes and the Chicken I imagine both may be in for a fresh bollocking.

powerbookboy

frenchfighter wrote:

Outsider art by Loan wrote:

powerbookboy wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Anti-Doping Danmark: "After our talks with Michael Rasmussen, we can see that it actually got worse after the Festina case..."

I suppose everyone had to get a lot more professional, organised and institutionalised.

Still, it confirms one thing. Contador doped in 2007. There's no way he could have done this clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRqxW9Jyt8
.

Awesome. Alberto doesn't ride like that anymore, though.

You should watch more racing.

Wot he said..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1XKyCFeW6I

Outsider art by Loan

powerbookboy wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Outsider art by Loan wrote:

powerbookboy wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Anti-Doping Danmark: "After our talks with Michael Rasmussen, we can see that it actually got worse after the Festina case..."

I suppose everyone had to get a lot more professional, organised and institutionalised.

Still, it confirms one thing. Contador doped in 2007. There's no way he could have done this clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRqxW9Jyt8
.

Awesome. Alberto doesn't ride like that anymore, though.

You should watch more racing.

Wot he said..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1XKyCFeW6I

That the best example you could think of was an attack which didn't work pretty much proves my point (which, to clarify, was not that Contador doesn't attack anymore, but that he just isn't quite as strong a cyclist now).

frenchfighter

There are countless more to give.

inkyfingers

Frenchie, can you honestly say that Contador has ever looked quite as dominant since his return from suspension? 2007-20011 he was simply riding away from everybody on summit finishes, never to be seen again but now anymore. Either he's got worse or everybody else has got better.

I'm not wanting to have an argument, i'm not Bertie hater, but to me it does seem quite striking. He won the Vuelta last year because he was smarter and braver than J Rod, whereas before he's usually won by just climbing and TTing better.