Fixeds with discs

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  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    edited February 2016
    marcusjb wrote:
    Is that an off the shelf version? Looks like they are back to two sets of bottle bosses again?

    I was getting quotes for work to remove the S3X stuff but then they offered me one of the last Orange frames from 2015 which yes had 2 bottle bosses again. It is also a R+D frame (something unnoticeable about the drop outs) that came discounted and they only wanted £50 for the fork swap, couldn't say no.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    It's super cool... fixed with front disc is the ultimate bike-porn
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  • marcusjb
    marcusjb Posts: 2,412
    iPete wrote:
    marcusjb wrote:
    Is that an off the shelf version? Looks like they are back to two sets of bottle bosses again?

    I was getting quotes for work to remove the S3X stuff but then they offered me one of the last Orange frames from 2015 which yes had 2 bottle bosses again. It is also a R+D frame (something unnoticeable about the drop outs) that came discounted and they only wanted £50 for the fork swap, couldn't say no.

    That sounds like a deal for sure!

    My own Tempo is about to take a step back as I get back into gears for some of the stuff I am doing this year. If I have another big distance season on fixed, I will consider changing the fork for sure.
    Stuff about riding a bike a long way
  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    It's super cool... fixed with front disc and a powertap is the ultimate bike-porn

    fixed
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    iPete wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    It's super cool... fixed with front disc and a powertap is the ultimate bike-porn

    fixed

    Totally disagree... on the one hand you have a bike free of gears which is a statement of your power... you don't need gears! On the other hand, you fit a power meter, which is a bit like doubting the size of your penis and having to constantly check that you are doing OK... you shouldn't doubt or attempt to quantify the awesome power

    You are sending out a confusing message and as a result you are a smaller man than you could be... :wink:
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  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    Don't forget, a disc would indicate I'm not very good at stopping either... Oh.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    iPete wrote:
    Don't forget, a disc would indicate I'm not very good at stopping either... Oh.

    That is fine, power and control don't necessarily go hand in hand...
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  • mamil314
    mamil314 Posts: 1,103
    Hi, Pete, Marcus, can i ask which Condor disk fork you went for and how much it weighs? Looks like Enve forks only come in tapered varieties ( at least 2.0 version ) and would not fit Tempo, Pista or Look AC 364 i have my eye on.
  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    mamil314 wrote:
    Hi, Pete, Marcus, can i ask which Condor disk fork you went for and how much it weighs? Looks like Enve forks only come in tapered varieties ( at least 2.0 version ) and would not fit Tempo, Pista or Look AC 364 i have my eye on.
    Condor do their own disc fork now. Pioggia disc. You can buy it separately from them or as part of a tempo or fratello frameset.
    Rose Xeon CW Disc
    CAAD12 Disc
    Condor Tempo
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Won't be able to ride it in French sportive a ;)
    _
  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    dhope wrote:
    mamil314 wrote:
    Hi, Pete, Marcus, can i ask which Condor disk fork you went for and how much it weighs? Looks like Enve forks only come in tapered varieties ( at least 2.0 version ) and would not fit Tempo, Pista or Look AC 364 i have my eye on.
    Condor do their own disc fork now. Pioggia disc. You can buy it separately from them or as part of a tempo or fratello frameset.

    This, Condor sold me the frame and their Pioggia fork together.
  • mamil314
    mamil314 Posts: 1,103
    Was picking up derailleur hangers at Evans and checked out Fuji Feather - seems quite a lot of bike for 350, if heavy. What does Condor have over it with just the cheaper frames costing 700?
  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    It's fancy pants
    Rose Xeon CW Disc
    CAAD12 Disc
    Condor Tempo
  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    In an attempt to answer mamils question I tried to learn about triple-butted steel, Dedacciai SAT and 4130 Cromoly (the Feather is made from this apparently) but starting falling asleep.

    dhope nailed it.
  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    It nearly resembles a bike, no?

    IMG_4850-S2_zpswbgla7el.jpg
  • dyrlac
    dyrlac Posts: 751
    Except for that godawful tumour of a contraption on the fork. :wink:
    All my Dolans
    Cannondale CAADX
    Charge Plug 1
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    iPete wrote:
    It nearly resembles a bike, no?

    IMG_4850-S2_zpswbgla7el.jpg

    Short of a wheelbuilder? :lol:
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  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    iPete wrote:
    It nearly resembles a bike, no?

    Short of a wheelbuilder? :lol:

    In summary, yes. :lol:

    But I've finally gone with a LBS who'll have the front back at the weekend.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    Why a SS frame has braze ons for gear cables?

    Chain tugs?
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,851
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Why a SS frame has braze ons for gear cables?
    I was going to say for hub gears on the chainstay and down tube and rear brake on the top tube.
    Kinesis Pro6
    Marin Nail Trail
    Cotic Solaris
  • arthur_scrimshaw
    arthur_scrimshaw Posts: 2,596
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Why a SS frame has braze ons for gear cables?

    Chain tugs?

    Run it with a hub gear?
  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    Yup, for a hub gear and the rear brake. Irritating but going custom would have added £200.

    Somewhat related, what are the screws/springs on the dropouts?!
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,851
    iPete wrote:
    Somewhat related, what are the screws/springs on the dropouts?!
    To line up the rear axle so if you drop the wheel out you can put it back in the same position without screwing up chain tension.
    At least that's what I've always assumed.
    Kinesis Pro6
    Marin Nail Trail
    Cotic Solaris
  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    IT'S ALIVE :twisted:

    Things of note;

    The pull on the brake lever is REALLY long and when you do get there, there is no bite but I assume this comes with bedding in(?!?).

    It's so stable and I've never ridden anything like it. Lovely.

    It's way early in the year for 44x16. Why have I built the winter bike now? :lol:
  • mamil314
    mamil314 Posts: 1,103
    Coming back to cycling after surgery, so commuter is needeed
    Does this bike or frame exist yet?

    Order of priority
    1) Fixed
    2) Hydraulic Disc Brakes
    3) Mudguard holes
    4) Clearance for 28mm
    5) Under 8 kg
  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    Yeah, mine and Pete's :D

    Kind of hydraulic anyway. Normal lever, hydraulic disc (Juin Tech R1)
    yPrLLqZ.jpg
    Rose Xeon CW Disc
    CAAD12 Disc
    Condor Tempo
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    dhope wrote:
    Yeah, mine and Pete's :D

    Kind of hydraulic anyway. Normal lever, hydraulic disc (Juin Tech R1)
    yPrLLqZ.jpg

    Did I build those wheels?

    If the previous poster wants full hydro, then TRP Hylex is the answer. Under 8kg is difficult as most of these framesets are steel

    PS: that looks like a BB7 to me
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  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    dhope wrote:
    Yeah, mine and Pete's :D

    Kind of hydraulic anyway. Normal lever, hydraulic disc (Juin Tech R1)
    yPrLLqZ.jpg

    Did I build those wheels?

    If the previous poster wants full hydro, then TRP Hylex is the answer. Under 8kg is difficult as most of these framesets are steel

    PS: that looks like a BB7 to me

    You built the deep section carbon ones on my Canyon. You'd moved when I needed these ones so Arup Sen did these. Stans Grail on Goltec hubs. MTB front, Track rear
    Ah, you're right, that pic is a BB7. Since changed to the Juin Tech.

    If you could live with the brakes being the wrong way around (/European) then you could always go SRAM
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/sram-force-cx1- ... d-caliper/
    Rose Xeon CW Disc
    CAAD12 Disc
    Condor Tempo
  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    Weight in the setup above (inc saddle bag + lights for commuting), according to my bathroom scales just now.
    9kg on the dot
    Rose Xeon CW Disc
    CAAD12 Disc
    Condor Tempo
  • anonymousblackfg
    anonymousblackfg Posts: 2,029
    Won't beat your 8kg on weight I don't think, I've an original Drop Bar Roadrat running fixed disc.

    Deore Front hub
    Surly fixed free rear hub
    TRP Spyre discs
    Aerotrack rims
    SKS full mudguards
    If I know you, and I like you, you can borrow my bike box for £30 a week. PM for details.

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