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  • Tom BB
    Tom BB Posts: 1,001
    My surname is Brookes....I usually just have Tom B as a login but it was already taken when i registered. Not sure if my results are on BC as i didn't race with a license (sport cat so no need). Its not quite as anonymous as DonDaddyD or the like though is it?
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    edited October 2012
    You have anonymised your name though, haven't you? And you did just criticise people for using anonymous usernames, didn't you? This makes you appear a tad hypocritical, doesn't it?
    By the way, if you are going to put a quote of your own (even making a point of accrediting it to yourself, I assume through pride resulting from your own feelings as to the quality, style and content of the quote) in your signature, why not check the grammar while you're at it, after all, it will appear on every post you make y'know.

    I struggle with grammar, this has been well documented. I forgot the signature was there so I would recommend not reading too much into what is actually just a bit of harmless fun.

    I doubt Cavendish will find the same success, pleasure and acceptance as he did at HTC. HTC, IMO, was built around Cav. I don't think there is a team out there at the moment that will give him the same level of dedication HTC did. IMO.

    I'm probably an eejit for thinking this. << eyeroll >>
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    This is getting really silly.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    can we pls stop. my head hurts
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    I love the way that some people are still talking as if Cav had a really sh*t Tour due to being at Sky. Did I imagine it or did he win 3 stages (the same amount as Sagan who was hailed as the new messiah and Andre 'no sprint train' Greipel)? To virtually any other rider in history winning 3 stages would be a monumental success. So presumably this is a reflection of just how good a rider he is? Apparently not as someone else thinks he should re-invent himself as a completely different rider as taking 6 Grand Tour stages in a season whilst fending for yourself is apparently not a good return.
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Pross wrote:
    I love the way that some people are still talking as if Cav had a really sh*t Tour due to being at Sky. Did I imagine it or did he win 3 stages (the same amount as Sagan who was hailed as the new messiah and Andre 'no sprint train' Greipel)? To virtually any other rider in history winning 3 stages would be a monumental success. So presumably this is a reflection of just how good a rider he is? Apparently not as someone else thinks he should re-invent himself as a completely different rider as taking 6 Grand Tour stages in a season whilst fending for yourself is apparently not a good return.
    That's a good point a very good point and I am probably wrong. That's fair enough, cycling is still somewhat new to me and I didn't see it that way. I can accept that.
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  • Paulie W
    Paulie W Posts: 1,492
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    I love the way that some people are still talking as if Cav had a really sh*t Tour due to being at Sky. Did I imagine it or did he win 3 stages (the same amount as Sagan who was hailed as the new messiah and Andre 'no sprint train' Greipel)? To virtually any other rider in history winning 3 stages would be a monumental success. So presumably this is a reflection of just how good a rider he is? Apparently not as someone else thinks he should re-invent himself as a completely different rider as taking 6 Grand Tour stages in a season whilst fending for yourself is apparently not a good return.
    That's a good point a very good point and I am probably wrong. That's fair enough, cycling is still somewhat new to me and I didn't see it that way. I can accept that.

    You and that word "probably" again!!
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    Pross wrote:
    I love the way that some people are still talking as if Cav had a really sh*t Tour due to being at Sky. Did I imagine it or did he win 3 stages (the same amount as Sagan who was hailed as the new messiah and Andre 'no sprint train' Greipel)? To virtually any other rider in history winning 3 stages would be a monumental success. So presumably this is a reflection of just how good a rider he is? Apparently not as someone else thinks he should re-invent himself as a completely different rider as taking 6 Grand Tour stages in a season whilst fending for yourself is apparently not a good return.

    100% this.

    To even win a single stage of the TdF is a phenomenal achievement. People take Cav's success for granted TBH.
  • Insideinfo
    Insideinfo Posts: 107
    Tom BB wrote:
    I never claimed to be a huge authority....most casual fans know that Greipel has a lead out train and also know that if Cav does go to Rabo it wont be to shorten his commute ffs! The pic of me is mid race btw...i unlike others don't feel the need to hide behind anonymous users names and avatars on the interweb :D


    I know Greipel has a lead out train, most sprinters do. And as for Cav going to Rabo to shorten his commute, i never suggested that was the case, i pointed out that a small reason is that Holland is a lot nearer if he ever needed to than Italy or Spain. I wasnt suggesting it was the 'sole reason' why he was joining Rabo. Its jut logical.

    Im not hiding behind a name, i simply put the first name i thought of, the only reason i havent put my real name is because i dont want any links going back to my 'source'. Its about protecting her as much as anything.

    Personally, i dont care where Cav goes either, im just passing info on. If nobody wants to hear it just say and i'll stop, its not like i havent got enough milf porn sites to work my way through. :lol:
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Pross wrote:
    Apparently not as someone else thinks he should re-invent himself as a completely different rider as taking 6 Grand Tour stages in a season whilst fending for yourself is apparently not a good return.

    Err, don't think he fended for himself at the Giro. Just sayin' like...
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Insideinfo wrote:
    I wasnt suggesting it was the 'sole reason' why he was joining Rabo.

    Err, yes you did.
    Insideinfo wrote:
    Well a small snippet i heard this morning, is that the reason why hes going to sign for Rabo is because of the location, based in Holland its not a big hop across the water from his base in Essex.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    Apparently not as someone else thinks he should re-invent himself as a completely different rider as taking 6 Grand Tour stages in a season whilst fending for yourself is apparently not a good return.

    Err, don't think he fended for himself at the Giro. Just sayin' like...

    But everyone is saying he needs to leave Sky as he gets no support so you must be wrong! Actually, he'd have won at least another stage if it wasn't for the 'help' of his leadout riders ;)
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Pross wrote:
    But everyone is saying he needs to leave Sky as he gets no support so you must be wrong! Actually, he'd have won at least another stage if it wasn't for the 'help' of his leadout riders ;)

    It doesn't really matter what everyone says on here. He wants to leave Sky as he doesn't feel he's getting the support he wants. He didn't think 6 GT stage wins was good enough. If he did, why isn't he staying with Sky?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    If he did, why isn't he staying with Sky?

    Maybe he is ;)
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Pross wrote:
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    If he did, why isn't he staying with Sky?

    Maybe he is ;)

    Ooooh, good point! :D
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    If he did, why isn't he staying with Sky?

    Maybe he is ;)

    Ooooh, good point! :D


    He's not

    He's going to Rabobank

    Do keep up.
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  • symo
    symo Posts: 1,743
    err no he isn't
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    symo wrote:
    err no he isn't

    He is

    Insideinfo had inside info.

    Have you not even been reading the thread?
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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    TailWindHome wrote:
    He's not

    He's going to Rabobank

    Do keep up.

    I thought it was Euskatel?
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    I wish he'd update his sodding Twitter. I mean how the hell is an honest stalker, I mean fan, supposed to keep abreast of developments? No update since 6th September!
  • rebs
    rebs Posts: 891
    Cav joining Euskatel would be epic. Could you imagine the carnage of a sprint train of bleeding carrots destroying everything in its path!
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    edited October 2012
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    But everyone is saying he needs to leave Sky as he gets no support so you must be wrong! Actually, he'd have won at least another stage if it wasn't for the 'help' of his leadout riders ;)

    It doesn't really matter what everyone says on here. He wants to leave Sky as he doesn't feel he's getting the support he wants. He didn't think 6 GT stage wins was good enough. If he did, why isn't he staying with Sky?
    OK here goes:
    - Cav wants jerseys.
    - He needs support to win jerseys - similar to how the GC contender needs support to win the GC jersey.
    - Pro-teams cannot field enough riders to support both causes. This is what he encountered at Sky.
    - The weaker Pro-teams that have no real GC contender do not have good enough riders to support Cav.
    - The stronger teams would rather allocate manpower to help the GC contender. (Again I cite Sky).

    It's not really about Cav being a good/bad rider, he is great. It's about priorities and strength of the team. There aren't any Pro-teams out there who will provide Cav the same level of support HTC did.

    This of course makes sense to me, but probably no one else. So I'll accept the oncoming flaming in a mostly probable silence.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    edited October 2012
    DDD, no flames from me on that last post.

    Just one thing I'd add: Cav loves, and I mean seriously loves, being the main man in the team - the leader, the heart around which is revolves, the centre of attention. Love him or hate him, he thrives on it. Sky couldnt offer him that - as Flecha said, 'Cav wanted to be the boss like Wiggo at Sky, but Wiggins has always been the big boss with the team because Sky's main goal from the start was to win the Tour.'

    So if the next marriage is going to work out, he's either going to get that, or he's going to have to learn to share.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Could he be going to CCC Polsat Polkowice?

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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Or maybe he's going to join their women's basketball team?

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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    There aren't any Pro-teams out there who will provide Cav the same level of support HTC did.

    Isn't that where OPQS fit in. What GC riders do they have, Tony Martin? Boonen for the spring classics and Cavendish for the GTs.
  • southdownswolf
    southdownswolf Posts: 1,525
    Are the rumours true that Cav has been found taking Estrogen in an aid to form the new Team Sky Women? :twisted:
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
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  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    It's unlikely that there will ever be another team like HTC because it was based around the principles of being the "winningest" (in their proper US/Highroad parlance) and they traded very successfully in the US and with a number of sponsors on that basis. Until Big Bad Bob comes up with another sponsor it won't happen and Cav will have to learn to co-exist with a team that has other goals than simply banging out "wins". Given the PR situation of cycling in the States at the moment it may be a while before Bob or anyone else comes good.
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    edited October 2012
    lostboysaint wrote:
    Until Big Bad Bob comes up with another sponsor it won't happen and Cav will have to learn to co-exist with a team that has other goals than simply banging out "wins".

    If that was the case then he should have stayed at Sky.

    For Cav to co-exist he would need to reinvent himself, that, or become better at riding up hills and being more self sufficient. He'd also stand a better chance at contesting the sprinters jerseys...
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