Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/9607197/International-Cycling-Union-president-Pat-McQuaid-shocked-at-evidence-in-Lance-Armstrong-report.html
Hint there that McQuaid is claiming to be shocked...0 -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/oct/13/lance-armstrong-doping-emma-oreilly?newsfeed=true
Emma OReilly comments on it all...0 -
iainf72 wrote:Cover of tomorrows Observer sports section
Shepard Fairey's a bit of a crook as well.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/shepard ... 712-1666790 -
Le Commentateur wrote:
You can go to jail for taking a copyrighted photo, altering it and then using it? Any posters on here suddenly in a panic?Twitter: @RichN950 -
He's was facing jail for presenting falsified evidence to the court to support his defense, not the original plagiarism.
Anyway, back to Lance...0 -
Yes, yes. I wasn't being serious.Le Commentateur wrote:He's was facing jail for presenting falsified evidence to the court to support his defense, not the original plagiarism.Twitter: @RichN950 -
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Holy David's comments (BTW Dave have you ever bothered apologising to Floyd for being a complete prick to him?)
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/oth ... l.19142378Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
iainf72 wrote:
Cycling Weekly.........Prestigeous? ........really!
Now I'm shocked. :shock:
This is the rag that has been bitching and making snide comments about some riders (usually foreign non-English speaking) for years, while protecting the the LA machine 'cos they were scared. Glad I stopped wasting my money on it years ago.0 -
Lance Armstrong's lawyer Tim Herman tells 5 live's Sportsweek: 'We don't care whether he did or he didn't [dope], he's moved on."
That's alright then.0 -
That's about as much of an admission as we are likely to get.tommasi wrote:Lance Armstrong's lawyer Tim Herman tells 5 live's Sportsweek: 'We don't care whether he did or he didn't [dope], he's moved on."
That's alright then.0 -
Saw something on facebook that made me a little sad.
There's a guy who I know who is a enormous sports fan. Of all kinds. You know the type. Pretty much knowledgeable about everything football, cricket, rugby, American football, golf, hockey etc etc. Slightly talks in tabloid cliche's but generally the go-to guy for all sport. Season ticket holder at Arsenal, for his sins.
He's recently starting posting some very well informed things about cycling (well, well informed by non-cycling fan standards). He's now read Millar's book, Tyler's book and just finished Riis' book. His comments on them would be reasonably well received here.
I started a little discussion with him about it and soon realised that the doping side that is covered in the 3 books is pretty much all he knows about cycling.
I mentioned a few race results and he drew a blank. I talked about LBL and that mountain stage that Hincape won in the Tour.
They're not interesting for him.
Sad times.0 -
Well, the doping stuff is interesting from a human and moral perspective as well as a sporting one.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0
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Rick Chasey wrote:Saw something on facebook that made me a little sad.
There's a guy who I know who is a enormous sports fan. Of all kinds. You know the type. Pretty much knowledgeable about everything football, cricket, rugby, American football, golf, hockey etc etc. Slightly talks in tabloid cliche's but generally the go-to guy for all sport. Season ticket holder at Arsenal, for his sins.
He's recently starting posting some very well informed things about cycling (well, well informed by non-cycling fan standards). He's now read Millar's book, Tyler's book and just finished Riis' book. His comments on them would be reasonably well received here.
I started a little discussion with him about it and soon realised that the doping side that is covered in the 3 books is pretty much all he knows about cycling.
I mentioned a few race results and he drew a blank. I talked about LBL and that mountain stage that Hincape won in the Tour.
They're not interesting for him.
Sad times.
Why does he have to be interested in anything simply because you are? I'm not interested in politics or religion yet everyone tells me I MUST be. Both, to me, are boring and have been so since I was a child. Yet people still insist that I must vote and praise God. You may not be interested in playing the fiddle but I am. I don't equate that to "Sad times" for me.0 -
I'm pretty sure Rick was pointing out that it was sad that someone who was a mad keen sports fan should have no knowledge of the sporting side of cycling, no? That obviously got changed on its way to Dennisland.dennisn wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Saw something on facebook that made me a little sad.
There's a guy who I know who is a enormous sports fan. Of all kinds. You know the type. Pretty much knowledgeable about everything football, cricket, rugby, American football, golf, hockey etc etc. Slightly talks in tabloid cliche's but generally the go-to guy for all sport. Season ticket holder at Arsenal, for his sins.
He's recently starting posting some very well informed things about cycling (well, well informed by non-cycling fan standards). He's now read Millar's book, Tyler's book and just finished Riis' book. His comments on them would be reasonably well received here.
I started a little discussion with him about it and soon realised that the doping side that is covered in the 3 books is pretty much all he knows about cycling.
I mentioned a few race results and he drew a blank. I talked about LBL and that mountain stage that Hincape won in the Tour.
They're not interesting for him.
Sad times.
Why does he have to be interested in anything simply because you are? I'm not interested in politics or religion yet everyone tells me I MUST be. Both, to me, are boring and have been so since I was a child. Yet people still insist that I must vote and praise God. You may not be interested in playing the fiddle but I am. I don't equate that to "Sad times" for me.0 -
Slim Boy Fat wrote:
I'm pretty sure Rick was pointing out that it was sad that someone who was a mad keen sports fan should have no knowledge of the sporting side of cycling, no? That obviously got changed on its way to Dennisland.dennisn wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Saw something on facebook that made me a little sad.
There's a guy who I know who is a enormous sports fan. Of all kinds. You know the type. Pretty much knowledgeable about everything football, cricket, rugby, American football, golf, hockey etc etc. Slightly talks in tabloid cliche's but generally the go-to guy for all sport. Season ticket holder at Arsenal, for his sins.
He's recently starting posting some very well informed things about cycling (well, well informed by non-cycling fan standards). He's now read Millar's book, Tyler's book and just finished Riis' book. His comments on them would be reasonably well received here.
I started a little discussion with him about it and soon realised that the doping side that is covered in the 3 books is pretty much all he knows about cycling.
I mentioned a few race results and he drew a blank. I talked about LBL and that mountain stage that Hincape won in the Tour.
They're not interesting for him.
Sad times.
Why does he have to be interested in anything simply because you are? I'm not interested in politics or religion yet everyone tells me I MUST be. Both, to me, are boring and have been so since I was a child. Yet people still insist that I must vote and praise God. You may not be interested in playing the fiddle but I am. I don't equate that to "Sad times" for me.
Why is it that someone who is "mad keen" for other sports is also supposed to be
interested in cycling? Who came up with this rule? You make way too much of riding a bike. It's bike racing, nothing more nothing less, and much like baseball or any other sport it has it's avid fans and also has people who could care less. :roll:0 -
It's more someone who pretty much likes any sport and talks sport has invested a lot of time and a little money into cycling, but purely from a doping perspective.
It's a shame. Cycling's pretty niche here still, beyond Wiggins and a track cycling once every 4 years, and all round sports fans get stuck into cycling for the doping not the racing.
It's not like he's just generally interested in doping. I chat sport with him a lot and he only discusses doping when it's to do with cycling.
Don't get me wrong, this crazily massive conspiracy to dope across an entire sport is absolutely fascinating.
But hearing a knowlegable sports fan talk about Riis, Buyneel, Armstrong, Andreau, Hamilton, Millar, and know all about what they were shoving into their veins and nothing about what they did on the bike is pretty depressing!0 -
I dont get it either, I think its completely normal for someone to like certain sports but take interest in the stories that happen around other ones that they don't watch.
Like it or not, pro cycling has been riddled with drug taking for years and years, and we've recently had reports that involve the biggest name in the sport, perhaps the only cyclist who's truly a worldwide household name.0 -
It's not a criticism of him.
It's just a sad state of affairs that the people in our sport are best known more widely for what they put in their veins than what they did on the road.
The teammates of Armstrong are becoming more famous for grassing him up than say, Hej is for winning the Giro this year, or all number of riders who have done more exceptional things on the bike.
I reckon after the few weeks Cancellara will be a less recognised name than Michael Barry beyond cycling fans.
Which is a shame if you're a cycling fan. Surely you guys can see that?0 -
any read the piece in The Independant ? Was going to buy it but at £2:50 I didn't bother0
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Is this it?sherer wrote:any read the piece in The Independant ? Was going to buy it but at £2:50 I didn't bother
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 10381.htmlTwitter: @RichN950 -
Just reading this doc here (thanks ro Rich): http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Re ... cision.pdf
'Cor blimey.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Don't get me wrong, this crazily massive conspiracy to dope across an entire sport is absolutely fascinating.
But hearing a knowlegable sports fan talk about Riis, Buyneel, Armstrong, Andreau, Hamilton, Millar, and know all about what they were shoving into their veins and nothing about what they did on the bike is pretty depressing!
Of course it's fascinating and to bunches of people. It's dirt about famous people / celebs and that is what whole bunches of people want the hear. I attribute this fascination to jealousy. People want to know, and often hope, that the rich and famous have their fair share of problems too and seeing these problems in print is exactly what they need to feel a little better about themselves.
In any case, on this and many other forums, in the end all that's happening is people are preaching to the choir and very few others.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Just reading this doc here (thanks ro Rich): http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Re ... cision.pdf
'Cor blimey.
You picked the wrong week not to be sitting in an office with nothing to do
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
dennisn wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Don't get me wrong, this crazily massive conspiracy to dope across an entire sport is absolutely fascinating.
But hearing a knowlegable sports fan talk about Riis, Buyneel, Armstrong, Andreau, Hamilton, Millar, and know all about what they were shoving into their veins and nothing about what they did on the bike is pretty depressing!
Of course it's fascinating and to bunches of people. It's dirt about famous people / celebs and that is what whole bunches of people want the hear. I attribute this fascination to jealousy. People want to know, and often hope, that the rich and famous have their fair share of problems too and seeing these problems in print is exactly what they need to feel a little better about themselves.
In any case, on this and many other forums, in the end all that's happening is people are preaching to the choir and very few others.
You've got me spot on. I am extremely jealous of all these cyclists and you're forcing me to realise that I only go to watch them in the hope I can see that some of them are as worthless as me. I rarely find this, so always leave disappointed. The smile on my face during & after these events is actually just a mask covering for the deep pain I feel.
Please forgive me world.0 -
it now seems not only do we have the 500-600 blood tests but he also worked with 500-600 people and only 26 saw something bad0
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An open letter to LA from a resident of Austin:
http://www.sebastianbraff.com/2012/07/dear-lance-armstrong.html
Titter!0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Just reading this doc here (thanks ro Rich): http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Re ... cision.pdf
'Cor blimey.
You picked the wrong week not to be sitting in an office with nothing to do
Hopefully that'll be a thing of the past.0
