Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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Yeah the affidavits are great. I haven't read any of the reasoned doc yet other than the intro, still getting through the rider' tales.Contador is the Greatest0
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Rick, when you eventually get there, Bertagnolli's and Bileka's have been translated and are well worth reading. Links have been posted on this thread.Contador is the Greatest0
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frenchfighter wrote:Yeah the affidavits are great. I haven't read any of the reasoned doc yet other than the intro, still getting through the rider' tales.
Well the bit I'm currently reading is going on about Landis and ZZ top, so clearly they put in a bit of filler to make it sound better when it hit the UCI desk.0 -
Gee wiz. These Brits need some help.
British cyclist Roger Hammond says Lance Armstrong was a "fantastic" team-mate who "never, ever" offered him performance-enhancing substances.
The United States Anti-Doping Agency has banned Armstrong for life and stripped him of his seven Tour de France titles.
But Hammond, who rode with Armstrong for Discovery Channel, told BBC Sport: "I never saw anything.
Armstrong, who has always denied doping but chose not to fight the charges filed against him, has been labelled a "serial" cheat and is accused of leading "the most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen".
But Hammond, who raced for the Discovery Channel team between 2005 and 2006, insisted he had never heard suggestions that Armstrong was taking or supplying fellow racers with banned drugs.
"I was in Lance Armstrong's team for two years and I was never asked, was never given any idea of any doping," he told BBC Radio 5 live. "I saw nothing at all, but then Usada never asked for my opinion."
He added that Armstrong was "fantastic to me as a team-mate", adding: "He was very supportive. He never ever forced his opinion, if this was his opinion."Contador is the Greatest0 -
It's definitely badly written.
They need some basic essay writing skills.
Tell the reader what and why you're gonna say BEFORE you say it, not after.0 -
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Bassons:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/oc ... -armstrong
Swart:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=10840244
Anyone seen what G Thomas has said?
Glenn Magnusson:
He has never had any blemish in his career. He has never been convicted of anything. There has been a witch-hunt against him from the USADA. It has been going on for many years. I understand that he is tired. This might have continued until he is an old man.
There are many other leaders in the sport of cycling that I would suspect before Johan. One is always surprised when someone's been involved in doping, but I would be really surprised if Johan was. He is a person I look up to.
Oleg Tinkov
@olegtinkov
RadioShack-Nissan cut ties with Bruyneel cyclingnews.com/news/radioshac… This is a great news.Bryneel damage the sport a lot
Gerard Vroomen
@gerardvroomen
Kim Andersen:"Bruyneel leaving @RSNT was probably the right decision". So he thinks dopers should leave. Well, we're waiting
Asked to respond to Levi Leipheimer’s confession in Wednesday’s Wall Street Journal, in which he described cycling as “a sport where the athletes at the highest level — perhaps without exception— used banned substances,” Voigt took clear exception.
“If that’s what (he said), then it would be not correct,” Voigt said. “Or maybe I was not a top-level athlete then? Because, you know, I didn’t. So he probably shouldn’t say it that way. You’d say ‘Okay, most of the people” or “everybody I know did this’ but you can’t just say ‘everybody’ like that, you know?
(I've seen multiple pro riders mention this - the fact these guys say everyone was doing it; simply untrue)
Voigt will be writing his thoughts on the matter in his Bicycling col when he is back from holiday
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/ ... ove_261295
(People giving examples of where Voigt was outclimbing Levi and Ullrich at Tour of Germany's)Contador is the Greatest0 -
Never heard of Glenn Magnussen before, so googled him. He was the Swedish representative in the 2012 World Sarcasm Championships, which may help explain his comments. Seriously.0
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"I was in Lance Armstrong's team for two years and I was never asked, was never given any idea of any doping," he told BBC Radio 5 live. "I saw nothing at all, but then Usada never asked for my opinion."
And the answer is............now you know why you never won 'owt lad.........0 -
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Anyone seen what G Thomas has said?
His PR guru has told him (and another rider she works for) not to "touch it with a bargepole" (ie talking about Armstrong.........not taking dope). He tweet was posted on another thread.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:I bet Ferrari would make a f*cking brilliant coach even if he didn't prescribe doping.
The Bileka testimony says otherwise. "Go to St Moritz. Ride up and down mountains all day. That'll be 10k please. Oh, and buy your own EPO."0 -
afx237vi wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:I bet Ferrari would make a f*cking brilliant coach even if he didn't prescribe doping.
The Bileka testimony says otherwise. "Go to St Moritz. Ride up and down mountains all day. That'll be 10k please. Oh, and buy your own EPO."
I'll get to that bit I guess.
Ferrari seems to be spouting the same stuff that gets all the Brits and Wiggins all hot under the collar when British Cycling say it about looking at performance as scientifically as possible, wattage to win the Tour, riding fewer races etc etc.
The only difference in my mind is Ferrari took a view that if you passed the dope tests you wern't cheating and BC make out they don't (and probably don't).0 -
Does anyone else think Jens should be angry at his ex-DS and Lance, instead of the media.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0
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More Lance shenanigans
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-15/australian-legend-witnessed-armstrong-bribe/43125580 -
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Rick Chasey wrote:That's standard behavior.
Another of cycling's open secrets.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
Yeah but ties in nicely with the SCA case if it can be proven. You have to wonder why insurance companies take these bets on.Rick Chasey wrote:That's standard behavior.0 -
just got to the section where USADA asked the UCI to re-test his 2009-2010 blood samples. The UCI said only if LA agreed and he refused. Why, if he was innocent, would he refuse ?0
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Looks like the BBC are giving us Emma O'Reilly for breakfast, today.
Should be a scintillating interview, although Bill Turnbull does actually follow cycling."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49362505/ns ... _releases/
Nike organising a rally to stand behind the cheating, doping bully boy of US sports. So all the fans get a free yellow Nike/Livestrong T-shirt (probably manufactured in a sweatshop in the Phillipnes/Thailand/Haiti) and get to see:
Norah Jones - annoying middle of the road Jazzster
Robin Williams - Famous for loving a small powedery bump now and again. Expect a joke about saying the USADA has no authority etc
Sean Penn - Hates on the South Park Team for their accurate portrayal of him in Team America.
Ben Stiller - :facepalm:
Plus a whole host of C list US celeb chefs
Plus at some college sports game (US football I think; you know the one with the steroided up teenagers running faster than an average sprinter despite weighing 4 times as much) the kids are going to reveal the 'especially' designed liestrong t-shirts.
Then there is a bike race challenge. (Wonder if Kirstin will be there handing out foil parcels to the participants?) Where wannabe's ride along with celebrity cancer survivor lance armstrong.
Seriously no politicians supporting him? Wow; he is done. Normally they are jumping all over a bandwagon like this; especially in this campaigning period.+++++++++++++++++++++
we are the proud, the few, Descendents.
Panama - finally putting a nail in the economic theory of the trickle down effect.0 -
Stuff like this has been planned for some time, one would imagine.
IMO it wont be long before at least some celebs will start being 'unavailable' to attend LA love-ins...any risk to their image and their army of PR peeps will be all over it...it just takes a little time for the effect to start being really obvious0 -
frenchfighter wrote:Oleg Tinkov
@olegtinkov
RadioShack-Nissan cut ties with Bruyneel cyclingnews.com/news/radioshac… This is a great news.Bryneel damage the sport a lot
This makes me want to throw. Oleg 'just dont get caught' Tinkoff...there's another one who should have no place in sport.0 -
nathancom wrote:
Yeah but ties in nicely with the SCA case if it can be proven. You have to wonder why insurance companies take these bets on.Rick Chasey wrote:That's standard behavior.
I certainly have wondered why anyone will bet on a sport like cycling, where 'gifts' financial or otherwise are common place.
After all, that's the entire reason they allowed teams to begin with.0 -
Phil Liggett-Watch:
Liggett finally admits that he thinks that Armstrong doped...
OZ programme called 4 Corners aired tonight on ABC
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/ ... 608613.htm
Liggett's interviewed about 21:20 in
Havent had a chance to watch it all the way through yet - but it looks a good prog0 -
coriordan wrote:sherer wrote:just got to the section where USADA asked the UCI to re-test his 2009-2010 blood samples. The UCI said only if LA agreed and he refused. Why, if he was innocent, would he refuse ?
Why the hell did they ask his opinion?
It was his friends at the UCI so they wouldn't release the samples without LAs permission.
Ignore all this lie detector rubbish just get the samples look at again0 -
sherer wrote:
It was his friends at the UCI so they wouldn't release the samples without LAs permission.coriordan wrote:
Why the hell did they ask his opinion?sherer wrote:just got to the section where USADA asked the UCI to re-test his 2009-2010 blood samples. The UCI said only if LA agreed and he refused. Why, if he was innocent, would he refuse ?
Ignore all this lie detector rubbish just get the samples look at again
My point exactly. If he does a lie detector (see his quote in the BBC R5Live thread), then he said 'with right people running and administering the test, it will prove that all the testimonies are lies'
For some reason, I am not surprised. Im sure if just any ordinary people administer the test and prove he is lying, then it will be "a rigged witchhunt" anyway.0 -
Aren't there drugs that help to pass lie detector tests?....0
