Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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his life must be hell...
its odd, probably the biggest service he did to cycling was attempt that comeback and kick up a 5h1tstorm getting busted. certainly moved things along."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Not on it either, but it seems Piers kicked it off by promoting his latest column in the Daily Mail with not at all obvious attempts to stir up controversy such as:He's having a bit of a spat with Piers Moron on twitter, shouldn't look but it's hard to resist.
Not on Twitter. Copy/paste some of it please.
and then after the predictable rush of Armstrong fans defending him:Yes, Lance Armstrong, you ARE Lord Voldemort - a lying, ruthless, self-obsessed monster.
Whine all you like, Lance Armstrong - but you'll always be the biggest cheat in sporting history
I've won as many legitimate Tour de France titles as @lancearmstrong. Fact.
to which Lance responded:Comical seeing Armstrong fans on here say he was the best of all the cycling cheats.
Like saying Hitler was the best Nazi.
to which Piers responded:@piersmorgan or like saying you were the best at hacking into innocent peoples phones??
Might be more but I gave up at that point as I was reminded once again that trying to follow conversations on Twitter is an utter pain in the arse.Never hacked a phone in my life ... Amusing. @lancearmstrong now resorting to his usual tactic with critical media - bullying & smearing. Won't work with me buddy.0 -
Why do people say this? You don't have to be 'on twitter' to look at it. It's a public website.He's having a bit of a spat with Piers Moron on twitter, shouldn't look but it's hard to resist.
Not on Twitter. Copy/paste some of it please.
Piers Morgan v Lance Armstrong is like Ali v Foreman of bellends. (Although I quite enjoy Morgan's brand of bellendery)Twitter: @RichN950 -
Another observation
A common complaint amongst his defenders is that he has been punished more harshly than other riders who doped. They point to the likes of Millar, Contador and Valverde and ask 'how are they different'?
The answer that comes back usually involves bullying and ruined lives. But this is the wrong answer.
The right answer is that he was not just a rider for hire. He was essentially co-manager of US Postal alongside Bruyneel. No other rider has had such a position within a team (apart from Vino).Twitter: @RichN950 -
Having been subjected to Lance's character and views full on over the years, the only reason Lance whinges is not because he's sorry but because it's not good for Lance. I suspect he's past moaning about losing his cycling status and now it's purely about money. Now we see the real Lance. He'd make a great bad guy in the next James Bond film.'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP0
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Not on it either, but it seems Piers kicked it off by promoting his latest column in the Daily Mail with not at all obvious attempts to stir up controversy such as:He's having a bit of a spat with Piers Moron on twitter, shouldn't look but it's hard to resist.
Not on Twitter. Copy/paste some of it please.
and then after the predictable rush of Armstrong fans defending him:Yes, Lance Armstrong, you ARE Lord Voldemort - a lying, ruthless, self-obsessed monster.
Whine all you like, Lance Armstrong - but you'll always be the biggest cheat in sporting history
I've won as many legitimate Tour de France titles as @lancearmstrong. Fact.
to which Lance responded:Comical seeing Armstrong fans on here say he was the best of all the cycling cheats.
Like saying Hitler was the best Nazi.
to which Piers responded:@piersmorgan or like saying you were the best at hacking into innocent peoples phones??
Might be more but I gave up at that point as I was reminded once again that trying to follow conversations on Twitter is an utter pain in the ars*.Never hacked a phone in my life ... Amusing. @lancearmstrong now resorting to his usual tactic with critical media - bullying & smearing. Won't work with me buddy.
That might come back to haunt him..."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Why do people say this? You don't have to be 'on twitter' to look at it. It's a public website.
Twitter blocked at work for some of us... same as I can only view half the photos that get uploaded here...0 -
Why do people say this? You don't have to be 'on twitter' to look at it. It's a public website.
Twitter blocked at work for some of us... same as I can only view half the photos that get uploaded here...
This ^ and I didn't know that you could access it without an account. Cheers adr82.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Piers Morgan I'm sure never hacked a phone in his life - for a start the term is bullcrap - no-one was hacking phones - they were logging into people's voicemail.
Anyway, pedantry aside, I doubt Piers did that either - but I'll be surprised if it is not proved one day that he knew plenty of people who did and paid them lots of money to write stories for his paper.You only need two tools: WD40 and Duck Tape.
If it doesn't move and should, use the WD40.
If it shouldn't move and does, use the tape.0 -
Isn't the PM vs LA spat just two 4ssholes having a distinctly flawed moral bitching match?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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I've noticed that since his conviction and confession he only gives interviews to general sports writers and broadcasters - not to cycling journalists. They are much more malleable to his 'poor me, the scapegoat' narrative.
Are you expecting him to do the right thing? Whatever that may be? I mean really, what were you expecting after all these years?0 -
After watching the Armstrong Lie, I noticed that the protagonists around him are already distancing themselves and 'jazzing' their accounts up with rhetoric and metaphor. So ironic when you think that the vast majority (apart from F Andreu) were complicit and embraced the 'program' at the time of the doping.
Even so LA doped to the eye balls, his results relied on his team. A team that was full of individuals content to dope to this level.
I think Bruyneel, Hincapie, Landis et all should be hung up to dry too - none of this "oh it was him [LA], he was the ring leader" type responses in a vein attempt to make themselves look like victims of the LA 'control'. 'plan' etc, which manipulates the perspective when really, these guys were out to cover themselves in glory as well.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
After watching the Armstrong Lie, I noticed that the protagonists around him are already distancing themselves and 'jazzing' their accounts up with rhetoric and metaphor. So ironic when you think that the vast majority (apart from F Andreu) were complicit and embraced the 'program' at the time of the doping.
Even so LA doped to the eye balls, his results relied on his team. A team that was full of individuals content to dope to this level.
I think Bruyneel, Hincapie, Landis et all should be hung up to dry too - none of this "oh it was him [LA], he was the ring leader" type responses in a vein attempt to make themselves look like victims of the LA 'control'. 'plan' etc, which manipulates the perspective when really, these guys were out to cover themselves in glory as well.
clearly you haven't listened to the LA interviews. He's stated they only used a tiny amount of EPO
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After watching the Armstrong Lie, I noticed that the protagonists around him are already distancing themselves and 'jazzing' their accounts up with rhetoric and metaphor. So ironic when you think that the vast majority (apart from F Andreu) were complicit and embraced the 'program' at the time of the doping.
Even so LA doped to the eye balls, his results relied on his team. A team that was full of individuals content to dope to this level.
I think Bruyneel, Hincapie, Landis et all should be hung up to dry too - none of this "oh it was him [LA], he was the ring leader" type responses in a vein attempt to make themselves look like victims of the LA 'control'. 'plan' etc, which manipulates the perspective when really, these guys were out to cover themselves in glory as well.
clearly you haven't listened to the LA interviews. He's stated they only used a tiny amount of EPO
I know, poor Lance. He had to do it because everyone else was doing it.
I am glad he tried to make a comeback.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
After watching the Armstrong Lie, I noticed that the protagonists around him are already distancing themselves and 'jazzing' their accounts up with rhetoric and metaphor. So ironic when you think that the vast majority (apart from F Andreu) were complicit and embraced the 'program' at the time of the doping.
Even so LA doped to the eye balls, his results relied on his team. A team that was full of individuals content to dope to this level.
I think Bruyneel, Hincapie, Landis et all should be hung up to dry too - none of this "oh it was him [LA], he was the ring leader" type responses in a vein attempt to make themselves look like victims of the LA 'control'. 'plan' etc, which manipulates the perspective when really, these guys were out to cover themselves in glory as well.
yep he did it clean to prove to the world he good he was and ended up with a third. I can only assume the two in front of him must have still been cheating those years as even a clean LA can beat everyone
One thing is if you have cheated and developed your body for 10 years or more with PEDs if you then stop surely your body is more advanced because of that, would the benefit suddenly go and you drop back to your natural level or would you still have elevated levels of muscle mass etc because of the previous PED use ?
clearly you haven't listened to the LA interviews. He's stated they only used a tiny amount of EPO
I know, poor Lance. He had to do it because everyone else was doing it.
I am glad he tried to make a comeback.0 -
Still riding tour for "charity". Dunno what Thomas was thinking asking him, its about as appropriate as hiring Rolf Harris for a kids party....
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Agree unnecessary attention during the tour, no need to have Armstrong along on the ride whatsoever. Short sighted from Thomas.0
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The thing is Armstrong doesn't care what the 'cycling' world thinks of him ... He knows how hypoctritical that world is.
Which is why he's happy to stick it to ASO and their selective TDF stats ... All in the name of a good cause of course.Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it.0 -
Agree unnecessary attention during the tour, no need to have Armstrong along on the ride whatsoever. Short sighted from Thomas.
Really? If Armstrong wasn't riding then no one would have even heard about this.0 -
Agree unnecessary attention during the tour, no need to have Armstrong along on the ride whatsoever. Short sighted from Thomas.
Really? If Armstrong wasn't riding then no one would have even heard about this.
Yes they would Geoff Thomas gets some airtime every year talking about his ride on TV. Admittedly, not as much air time as this.
I shall be in the area while he's doing this, wondering which hard vegetable to get from the local Carrefour to throw in his general direction.
As an aside it dawned on me yesterday that my winter bike (which is a Trek) has the slogan "ridden to 7 Tour de France victories" on it. Which was a lie even before Lance had his victories stripped, no one has ridden the a pro race on a £600 bike for many a year.0 -
They say that bad publicity is better than no publicity.
FWIW, the Trek marketing worked on you Hammerite
seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
They say that bad publicity is better than no publicity.
FWIW, the Trek marketing worked on you Hammerite
Clearly, I didn't even realise it was in the bike until this week, I've had it nearly 10 years!0 -
The thing is Armstrong doesn't care what the 'cycling' world thinks of him ... He knows how hypoctritical that world is.
Which is why he's happy to stick it to ASO and their selective TDF stats ... All in the name of a good cause of course.
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Talking about the BBC again with that biggest Brown Nose. Shown HereI've noticed that since his conviction and confession he only gives interviews to general sports writers and broadcasters - not to cycling journalists. They are much more malleable to his 'poor me, the scapegoat' narrative.
Not only losing money but getting too old for the mountains.BBC Sport cycling correspondent Matt Slater
A cynic might say Lance Armstrong is dodging the big crowds of the first week and the big mountains of the last, and while those factors may have crossed his mind the truth is his family commitments and legal issues made the Tour's second week his only option.
His many detractors will not care either way, for them he is an unwelcome distraction whichever stages he picked, but those more willing to view this venture as an act of charity could be disappointed he is not taking on Tourmalet and other mountainous Pyrenean icons: perhaps the memories, as much as the metres uphill, were too much of an obstacle.
The quicker the Courts finish with him, the quicker we can forget him.Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
Agree unnecessary attention during the tour, no need to have Armstrong along on the ride whatsoever. Short sighted from Thomas.
Really? If Armstrong wasn't riding then no one would have even heard about this.
Yes they would Geoff Thomas gets some airtime every year talking about his ride on TV. Admittedly, not as much air time as this.
I shall be in the area while he's doing this, wondering which hard vegetable to get from the local Carrefour to throw in his general direction.
As an aside it dawned on me yesterday that my winter bike (which is a Trek) has the slogan "ridden to 7 Tour de France victories" on it. Which was a lie even before Lance had his victories stripped, no one has ridden the a pro race on a £600 bike for many a year.
be sure to work on you throwing arm then, you will need plenty of veg when the tour is in town.0 -
Seems a bit mad to me. Why didn't Geoff Thomas ask someone who's won The Tour to ride with him?0
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Seems a bit mad to me. Why didn't Geoff Thomas ask someone who's won The Tour to ride with him?
Maybe because he wanted someone who had survived cancer as well as ridden the tour0 -
Leave it off.Maybe because he wanted someone who had survived cancer as well as ridden the tour
Cancer, he had life threatening cancer. Did he really. They cut it out before it became life threatening and look at him now enjoying life by still riding a bike wherever he likes.
They cut a bigger lump of cancer out of me that prevents me enjoying life as before.
Sorry I'm Touchy but we have just cremated a 66 year old family member who has been eaten away with Lung and Bone Cancer. He is not enjoying life anymore.
That was the trouble with armstrong that having fraudulently made his name in the TDF that the Media reported an upgrade to his cancer as "Life Threatening" to make a bigger story. Bollock removal and he makes a Joke of it.Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
That was the trouble with armstrong that having fraudulently made his name in the TDF that the Media reported an upgrade to his cancer as "Life Threatening" to make a bigger story. Bollock removal and he makes a Joke of it.
I am no Armstrong apologist but I think you'll find there's a little more to his cancer that a quick testicle removal.
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Leave it off.Maybe because he wanted someone who had survived cancer as well as ridden the tour
Cancer, he had life threatening cancer. Did he really. They cut it out before it became life threatening and look at him now enjoying life by still riding a bike wherever he likes.
They cut a bigger lump of cancer out of me that prevents me enjoying life as before.
Sorry I'm Touchy but we have just cremated a 66 year old family member who has been eaten away with Lung and Bone Cancer. He is not enjoying life anymore.
That was the trouble with armstrong that having fraudulently made his name in the TDF that the Media reported an upgrade to his cancer as "Life Threatening" to make a bigger story. Bollock removal and he makes a Joke of it.
Not only that, but the theory that it was his drug taking before cancer that at the very least sped up the cancer if not fully caused it in the first place.2020 Reilly Spectre - raw titanium
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