Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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disgruntledgoat wrote:TailWindHome wrote:loses SCA case
£10mil hit
And his depantsing is complete
I suppose he invested that $5mil well back in 2006 he'll have made up the 10 he needs to pay back now.0 -
ThomThom wrote:Nah, if there's one case he should lose, it's this one. He was a f'ucking animal about it in.. what was it.. 2004?
The next one, however.. If Floyd gets a penny out of it, I'm calling Lance and say he's alright after all.
Nicely put!We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Joelsim wrote:pinarello001 wrote:Joelsim wrote:iainf72 wrote:I find it strange that someone who didn't watch cycling during Armstrong era could hold such strong views.
Maybe that's just me?
I did, but I didn't watch anywhere near as much as I have for the past few years.
Anyway my comment isn't about cycling or about doping, it's about Lance Armstrong. The bloke is just horrible and typifies many things I find vulgar and indefensible.
Oh come on, he's not Pol Pot and what a fantastic soap opera we've been witness to as well as sequels. I wonder how we'll see this whole period in 20 years time.
As I said this isn't about cycling. I just despise characters like him who are happy to ruin other people. Yes, he's not the only one in the world, but just looking at his evil, selfish eyes makes me sick. A truly revolting individual.
In these situations, I find not looking to be quite effective"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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I`d certainly have difficulty in recommending hanging for him, especially as Ulrich and Pantani are both my hero's.
But, I never liked him when he was racing and he has done more damage to the sport than any other individual, so I suppose he`s getting what he deserves.
Many in the states still view him as the worlds best cyclist, so I doubt he`ll stay completely out in the cold forever.Trek,,,, too cool for school ,, apparently0 -
Bikes`n`guns wrote:Many in the states still view him as the worlds best cyclist, so I doubt he`ll stay completely out in the cold forever.
So do I to be honest.
Within the (admittedly warped) rules of the day, he was by far #1.
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Maybe for the one race a year.Rick Chasey wrote:
So do I to be honest.Bikes`n`guns wrote:Many in the states still view him as the worlds best cyclist, so I doubt he`ll stay completely out in the cold forever.
Within the (admittedly warped) rules of the day, he was by far #1.
Perfect villain.
He may (?) have got some kudos if he was that good in the rest of the season but he needed that time to mix the right concoction for his brief season in Europe.
#1 was seen as 15th at his retirement, just not good enough in the European Seasons.Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
If he showed any contrition or remorse or acknowledgement of the damage he had caused, I might show some sympathy with him.
Until then. Meh.0 -
What 'damage' would that be then? He started a cycling revolution in the USA.0
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Zerotails99 wrote:What 'damage' would that be then? He started a cycling revolution in the USA.
...and killed it off by the same token?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
It can't have done the US cycling scene any good. At least the strong hold of years of tradition in Europe forms the bedrock. Are there any US teams in the pro tour?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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Cannondale, Trek and (officially) BMC.pinarello001 wrote:It can't have done the US cycling scene any good. At least the strong hold of years of tradition in Europe forms the bedrock. Are there any US teams in the pro tour?Twitter: @RichN950 -
pinarello001 wrote:It can't have done the US cycling scene any good. At least the strong hold of years of tradition in Europe forms the bedrock. Are there any US teams in the pro tour?
A more relevant question, perhaps is how many there were before Armstrong was invented by Amgen, "The EPO epoch". I lived in Ca during Armstrong's reign and it was unbearable. A bit like the Sky Discovery....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
I've seen the story on Sky News, CNN, and I think ITV News but nothing on the BBC until this belated effort.mfin wrote:Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
Remember the Pro scene was rather limited with Sean Yates winning the USA Pro Championship and the honour of being the USA Champion came in 5th.Macaloon wrote:
A more relevant question, perhaps is how many there were before Armstrong was invented by Amgen,
The field was half full of foreigners.
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deejay wrote:
I've seen the story on Sky News, CNN, and I think ITV News but nothing on the BBC until this belated effort.mfin wrote:
Not sure what your beef with the BBC is, but when the news came out it was on the front page of BBC news within 20 minutesFckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
What, you saw this on BBC TV News. ????iainf72 wrote:
My point being, that other channels did the story and my wife says she saw nothing about it on BBC News, when I had asked her.
That on another forum the point was made about the absence and I am only interested when the scumbag has to wriggle and suffer his mighty life style yet again with the costs of his Legal Teams to be paid.
So Broadcast it and let the young ones know.Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
Perhaps your wife wasn't watching closely enough?
So I'm sure your apology is accepted.Trail fun - Transition Bandit
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Betsy is rather angry with Lancy-pants on FaceBook, re the pathetic $150 fine, $238.50 costs in the get-Anna-to-admit-it drink-driving case...
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Juliet Macur in NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/17/sport ... share&_r=0Lance Armstrong once told me that it would take maybe six months to a year for him to rebuild his reputation after he admitted lying to the world about his drug use.
He said his plan was to keep a low profile and quietly earn back public trust, partly by apologizing to the people he had stepped on or, in some cases, tried to destroy.
Armstrong, who in 2012 was stripped of his seven Tour de France titles for doping, seemed proud of his blueprint to restore his image. He said it would show that he was a good person who had been forced to dope because everyone else was doing it.
The plan might have worked — if he had bothered to follow it.0 -
andy_wrx wrote:Juliet Macur in NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/17/sport ... share&_r=0Lance Armstrong once told me that it would take maybe six months to a year for him to rebuild his reputation after he admitted lying to the world about his drug use.
He said his plan was to keep a low profile and quietly earn back public trust, partly by apologizing to the people he had stepped on or, in some cases, tried to destroy.
Armstrong, who in 2012 was stripped of his seven Tour de France titles for doping, seemed proud of his blueprint to restore his image. He said it would show that he was a good person who had been forced to dope because everyone else was doing it.
The plan might have worked — if he had bothered to follow it.
Great quote that and you can imagine him working out his "sentence" for contrition in such a calculated manner.
I've no doubt he will baulk at paying back SCA. Perhaps he should be allowed to buy back his 7 TdF's for say $140m. Everyone deserving gets paid out. Would he do it given the chance?0 -
Who is 'deserving of a payout'? They all made a career out of writing about LA.
He was paid by his sponsors who in turn made profits many fold. Now they're claiming they didn't know what the fuck was going on and want their money back.0 -
Watch related. Is that a JLC master in the NYT photo?M.Rushton0
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andy_wrx wrote:Juliet Macur in NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/17/sport ... share&_r=0Lance Armstrong once told me that it would take maybe six months to a year for him to rebuild his reputation after he admitted lying to the world about his drug use.
He said his plan was to keep a low profile and quietly earn back public trust, partly by apologizing to the people he had stepped on or, in some cases, tried to destroy.
Armstrong, who in 2012 was stripped of his seven Tour de France titles for doping, seemed proud of his blueprint to restore his image. He said it would show that he was a good person who had been forced to dope because everyone else was doing it.
The plan might have worked — if he had bothered to follow it.
yup - it might have worked ... but LA can't do that can he ... it's all "look at me look at me look at me" behaviour like a 10yo school kid in the playground.
Give him back his 7 TdF titles? No - he doesn't deserve them - he cheated to win them and shows no regret about it. The amount of lies he tells puts him in competition with our politicians...
If he was allowed to compete even in the low rankings - would you trust him to be riding clean? I wouldn't - and what would that say to those who are competing?0 -
Once again, (how he craved to be recognised)Slowbike wrote:... but LA can't do that can he ... it's all "look at me look at me look at me" behaviour like a 10yo school kid in the playground.
Give him back his 7 TdF wins? No - he doesn't deserve them - he cheated to win them and shows no regret about it. The amount of lies he tells puts him in competition with our politicians...
1994 Liege as world champion he was sitting on the truck talking to his mechanics and complaining to them that nobody in the crowd recognised him and no one there wanted to give him the satisfaction that some did.
He told the mechanics in a Sulk that he might as well retire to his room and they (as always) agreed with him but then had a snigger behind his back, as did a couple opposite me.
He certainly made sure the world, now know who he is, but not the way he planned it.Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
Great :roll: , idiot...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/31971387
Good.
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mfin wrote:ddraver wrote:I was hoping that given that none of us had commented on this it showed that we werent part of feeding the media fire they both want...
Well, it's not really the 'media fire' here, this is just discussion.
As it is being discussed, Cookson and DB can criticise all they like. Its got nothing to do with them or anyone else for that matter0
