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  • springtide9
    springtide9 Posts: 1,731
    There's nothing like having a hangover to make you feel very guilty about drinking.

    Picking a sweetspot ride to make you feel better, but deciding to see what power you can hold after following the plot for the first 15 mins.

    Not sure about anyone else, but trying to hold steady power for such a duration doesn't half make the ride uncomfortable, even on the Rock and Roll.

    Pyramidal
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/121744

    Anyway, new PB for 60 mins even if it's still way short of my FTP (or probably overrated FTP) :D but obviously pleased after guzzling the red wine last night! lol
    Simon
  • robklancs
    robklancs Posts: 498
    Bit off topic but, I have been offered a cheap rear wheel which is a bit damaged having lost 2 spokes, wondering if anyone has ever used a damaged wheel on the turbo and if it will be safe and hold up, will take a tube and tyre okay but don't think it can be fixed as nipple is torn away leaving a larger hole at the rim.
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    robklancs wrote:
    Bit off topic but, I have been offered a cheap rear wheel which is a bit damaged having lost 2 spokes, wondering if anyone has ever used a damaged wheel on the turbo and if it will be safe and hold up, will take a tube and tyre okay but don't think it can be fixed as nipple is torn away leaving a larger hole at the rim.

    The wheel is supported via the hub so that shouldnt be a prob... the only thing I'd think against is if the wheel is less than completely round due to the missing spokes
  • robklancs
    robklancs Posts: 498
    Cheers jgsi, just sick of changing tyre not sure if its perfectly round though.
  • springtide9
    springtide9 Posts: 1,731
    robklancs wrote:
    Cheers jgsi, just sick of changing tyre not sure if its perfectly round though.

    I'm sure it will be fine.... give it a go as you'll soon find out if the wheel is out of shape. As JGSI stated, all of the forces are on the hub.

    It would drive me bonkers if I had to swap a tyre every time I wanted to either ride on the road or on the turbo. Much easier/quicker if you only have a wheel to switch.
    Simon
  • GiantMike
    GiantMike Posts: 3,139
    NapoleonD wrote:
    New Sufferfest The Wretched (Freaking hard as evidenced last week!) is on Trainer Road now...

    It just goes to show how deceptive a work-out profile can be. This looks quite easy. It's 35 mins of actual workout of which only about 15 minutes is above FTP. I guess the misery is in the details and a lot of 'easy looking' workouts are killers.
  • springtide9
    springtide9 Posts: 1,731
    GiantMike wrote:
    NapoleonD wrote:
    New Sufferfest The Wretched (Freaking hard as evidenced last week!) is on Trainer Road now...

    It just goes to show how deceptive a work-out profile can be. This looks quite easy. It's 35 mins of actual workout of which only about 15 minutes is above FTP. I guess the misery is in the details and a lot of 'easy looking' workouts are killers.

    It's the IF that gives you a good idea of how hard the ride is. Anything above 0.9 for roughly an hour is going to be pretty tough.
    Simon
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    springtide9 wrote:
    GiantMike wrote:
    NapoleonD wrote:
    New Sufferfest The Wretched (Freaking hard as evidenced last week!) is on Trainer Road now...

    It just goes to show how deceptive a work-out profile can be. This looks quite easy. It's 35 mins of actual workout of which only about 15 minutes is above FTP. I guess the misery is in the details and a lot of 'easy looking' workouts are killers.

    It's the IF that gives you a good idea of how hard the ride is. Anything above 0.9 for roughly an hour is going to be pretty tough.

    considering the IF 0.98 value and the fact that it is only 49 minutes long, a fail doing this should not provoke anything other than sympathy... it is madness, as a sub hour 25 should be referred with an IF value of 1.00
  • markp80
    markp80 Posts: 444
    So, time for another 8 min test for me -

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/123502

    Pretty pleased with the result, FTP up to 197.
    A few weeks ago i set myself some targets for the end of the year, and in all likelihood this is the last test I'll do in that period.
    FTP target 200 - achieved 197, so pretty pleased.
    W/kg target 2.00 - achieved 2.06, hurrah!
    Weight target I think 14 1/2 stone, achieved 15 st 1lb. Not quite there, but that'll still go down and if lost 9lb.

    All in all I'm delighted with the way it's gone. TrainerRoad's working for me!

    Cheers,
    MarkP
    Boardman Road Comp - OK, I went to Halfords
    Tibia plateau fracture - the rehab continues!
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    4 weeks ago I'd've baulked at doing an hour and a half on the turbo but today I did Antelope (should have been Saturday, doing intermediate Base I). It actually felt comfortable! Challenging but comfortable.

    NP was 209. Funny how when I was racing I'd do 2hrs with an NP of over 260!



    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/123433
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    ABCC Cycling Coach
  • dw300
    dw300 Posts: 1,642
    I've barely been riding at all recently .. for-shame .. but I decided to see what the damage was to how much short term power I could put out (I new my long term power wouldn't be competitive).

    So I got on and did my Record Breaker custom workout which I'd done about a month ago and managed to break 3 records before I had to get off and run to the bathroom, looking what could only be described as a whiter shade of pale.

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/123450

    Lack of base fitness very much affected my ability to do repeated short efforts .. need to pick a base plan and stick to it .. Im just not sure I can do the really long rides at the weekend on a trainer.
    All the above is just advice .. you can do whatever the f*ck you wana do!
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  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    That looks solid!!
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    ABCC Cycling Coach
  • n1ckster
    n1ckster Posts: 158
    I bought a turbo and signed up for TR at the weekend.

    Tonight I started the Intermediate Base 1 plan with the 8 minute test, http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/123361

    I thought it went well enough, however in hindsight, I think I could have gone a bit harder. Still, the hour flew by and it was actually very enjoyable.

    I think I am going to enjoy this malarky.

    Nick
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Looks like you went too easy on the first 8 min. Or, you went the same but as the turbo warmed up it looks like you went harder.

    Just go with what it suggests as your FTP, your next couple of rides are consolidation/confirmation anyway.
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    ABCC Cycling Coach
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    NapoleonD wrote:
    4 weeks ago I'd've baulked at doing an hour and a half on the turbo but today I did Antelope (should have been Saturday, doing intermediate Base I). It actually felt comfortable! Challenging but comfortable.

    NP was 209. Funny how when I was racing I'd do 2hrs with an NP of over 260!
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/123433

    Have you got the green light to come back racing next season?
    You gotta get to use this sh1t , you know it makes sense... :wink:
  • n1ckster
    n1ckster Posts: 158
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Looks like you went too easy on the first 8 min. Or, you went the same but as the turbo warmed up it looks like you went harder.

    Just go with what it suggests as your FTP, your next couple of rides are consolidation/confirmation anyway.

    Definitely didn't go hard enough in the first 8; the second 8 was certainly closer to full effort. I was perhaps following the on screen prompts a little too literally and saving some perceived energy for the 2nd 8. I don't think I know what 100% effort for me actually feels like, so was/is difficult to guage.

    I'm very much a novice to all this (structured) training, so will follow the plan with the suggested FTP figure as closely as possible and retest in a few weeks.

    Nick
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    Anyone interested in a BikeRadar Winter Warmer ride..?
    Pick a date and time to ride 'Disaster' for example as that's the longest at 4 hours 10... not a race :wink:
    alternatives include Rockhouse or Cathedral....
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    JGSI wrote:
    NapoleonD wrote:
    4 weeks ago I'd've baulked at doing an hour and a half on the turbo but today I did Antelope (should have been Saturday, doing intermediate Base I). It actually felt comfortable! Challenging but comfortable.

    NP was 209. Funny how when I was racing I'd do 2hrs with an NP of over 260!
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/123433

    Have you got the green light to come back racing next season?
    You gotta get to use this sh1t , you know it makes sense... :wink:

    We'll see.....
    Insta: ATEnduranceCoaching
    ABCC Cycling Coach
  • Simmotino
    Simmotino Posts: 295
    JGSI wrote:
    Anyone interested in a BikeRadar Winter Warmer ride..?
    Pick a date and time to ride 'Disaster' for example as that's the longest at 4 hours 10... not a race :wink:
    alternatives include Rockhouse or Cathedral....

    Sounds like fun, but I'm not sure my a**e would take it! :?

    New saddle is in the offing but I'm under strict instructions from Santa's "helper" not to buy anything this side of the turkey dinner.

    New Year maybe?
  • GiantMike
    GiantMike Posts: 3,139
    JGSI wrote:
    Anyone interested in a BikeRadar Winter Warmer ride..?
    Pick a date and time to ride 'Disaster' for example as that's the longest at 4 hours 10... not a race :wink:
    alternatives include Rockhouse or Cathedral....

    Are you planning a cake stop?
  • Simmotino
    Simmotino Posts: 295
    OK, just toddled off to have a look at Disaster.

    :shock:
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    GiantMike wrote:
    JGSI wrote:
    Anyone interested in a BikeRadar Winter Warmer ride..?
    Pick a date and time to ride 'Disaster' for example as that's the longest at 4 hours 10... not a race :wink:
    alternatives include Rockhouse or Cathedral....

    Are you planning a cake stop?

    If so, I could meet up for that but give the ride a miss.
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    ABCC Cycling Coach
  • manxshred
    manxshred Posts: 295
    Well, another 2 weeks off the bike due to a cold, then flu, so that makes 7 weeks since the beginning of Sept off the bike.
    Getting a bit frustrated now!! Need to get training.
  • Simmotino
    Simmotino Posts: 295
    ManxShred wrote:
    Well, another 2 weeks off the bike due to a cold, then flu, so that makes 7 weeks since the beginning of Sept off the bike.
    Getting a bit frustrated now!! Need to get training.

    MTFU :roll:

    :lol:
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    NapoleonD wrote:
    GiantMike wrote:
    JGSI wrote:
    Anyone interested in a BikeRadar Winter Warmer ride..?
    Pick a date and time to ride 'Disaster' for example as that's the longest at 4 hours 10... not a race :wink:
    alternatives include Rockhouse or Cathedral....

    Are you planning a cake stop?

    If so, I could meet up for that but give the ride a miss.

    Inbetween .. that horrible phrase 'twixmas' ?
  • Caller
    Caller Posts: 124
    edited December 2012
    I got the turbo set up and had my first try with TR tonight.

    I went for the 20 minute test which I quite enjoyed. Next up is going to be the Intermediate Base 1 plan and I'll see how I get on with it.

    I was surprised how much I enjoyed using the turbo, I've never used one before but it wasn't as bad as I'd expected. One thing I need to sort before the next session on it is a new saddle for the bike, the one I'm using at the moment is bloody torture :lol:
  • mikey2341
    mikey2341 Posts: 170
    I'm getting quite into TR now, it makes the turbo much more enjoyable. Currently doing intermediate base 1. One thing I cant fathom though is how my "sweetspot" when training with power has a window of 32 watts (241-273), yet froma heart rate point of view, it is only 2 beats (145-146). Can anyone shed any light on this? Makes it difficult to hold such a tight heart rate when training on the road and not having access to a powermeter.

    Cheers
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    mikey2341 wrote:
    I'm getting quite into TR now, it makes the turbo much more enjoyable. Currently doing intermediate base 1. One thing I cant fathom though is how my "sweetspot" when training with power has a window of 32 watts (241-273), yet froma heart rate point of view, it is only 2 beats (145-146). Can anyone shed any light on this? Makes it difficult to hold such a tight heart rate when training on the road and not having access to a powermeter.

    Cheers

    I'd get used to ignoring HR as you ride and or train... leave it to mulling over afterwards the peculiarities of your response.
    Work with 'feel' as best you can - admittedly, I can't get the hang of perceived exertion thats why power numbers are there and they are the only judges of what you can and cannot do.
    RPE just ends up tending to overwork all the time - like me .. it's a dumbass way

    Defintely forget about such narrow bandings with HR.. open them out to 10 - 15 beats if you really must use HR.
  • mikey2341
    mikey2341 Posts: 170
    JGSI wrote:
    mikey2341 wrote:
    I'm getting quite into TR now, it makes the turbo much more enjoyable. Currently doing intermediate base 1. One thing I cant fathom though is how my "sweetspot" when training with power has a window of 32 watts (241-273), yet froma heart rate point of view, it is only 2 beats (145-146). Can anyone shed any light on this? Makes it difficult to hold such a tight heart rate when training on the road and not having access to a powermeter.

    Cheers

    I'd get used to ignoring HR as you ride and or train... leave it to mulling over afterwards the peculiarities of your response.
    Work with 'feel' as best you can - admittedly, I can't get the hang of perceived exertion thats why power numbers are there and they are the only judges of what you can and cannot do.
    RPE just ends up tending to overwork all the time - like me .. it's a dumbass way

    Defintely forget about such narrow bandings with HR.. open them out to 10 - 15 beats if you really must use HR.

    I don't have a proper power meter (yet) so am using the virtual power on TR, whilst it works well for the turbo, I'm not sure how I can accurately replicate my efforts outside )although judging by todays weather, it may be a while before I get outside again!
    I did this today http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/125078 and apart from a 30 second bit on the third interval where I was trying to get comfy on the saddle, i've stuck to the power suggestions quite quite well - yet my heart rate has risen by 17 beats from end of interval 1 to end of interval 3, I'm presuming this is just down to a lack of conditioning on my part? Has to be said that 3 x 20 mins all done in aero position is tough!
  • GiantMike
    GiantMike Posts: 3,139
    It's normal for HR to rise more quickly on successive intervals and finish higher. Usually less obvious on longer intervals than shorter ones.

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