Silly Commuter Weight Loss

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  • clarkey cat
    clarkey cat Posts: 3,641
    NAME           HEIGHT  START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark       1.86m   217lb        196lb         205lb       12lb         9lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          74.5kg      -2.5kg      9.5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       192lbs        196.8lbs      3.2lbs        4.8lb
    Cush123                  93kg         82kg          89.6kg      3.4kg       7.6kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.6kg      0.4kg       6.6kg
    Domgears         1.80m   106.5kg      85kg          90.5kg      16kg       5.5kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          87kg       -6kg         4kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          70.4kg      3.6kg       1.4kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         179.7lb     4.3lb       15.7lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          85.5kg      3.5kg       2.5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          94kg        14kg         -1kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze    1.84m    87kg         81kg          82.1kg      4.9kg       1.1kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   113kg        15St          112kg       1kg         10kg
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     13st 1lb   2lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          70kg        2kg         3kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        92.5kg      0.5kg       7kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          13st 13lb    27lb         13lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    

    re-assess my objectives I think
  • Allez Mark
    Allez Mark Posts: 364
    NAME           HEIGHT    START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark               217lb        196lb         196lb       21lb        0lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          74.5kg      -2.5kg      9.5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       192lbs        196.8lbs      3.2lbs        4.8lb
    Cush123                  93kg         82kg          89.6kg      3.4kg       7.6kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.6kg      0.4kg       6.6kg
    Domgears         1.80m   106.5kg      85kg          90.5kg      16kg       5.5kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          87kg       -6kg         4kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          70.4kg      3.6kg       1.4kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         179.7lb     4.3lb       15.7lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          85.5kg      3.5kg       2.5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          94kg        14kg         -1kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze    1.84m    87kg         81kg          82.1kg      4.9kg       1.1kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   113kg        15St          112kg       1kg         10kg
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     13st 1lb   2lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          70kg        2kg         3kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        92.5kg      0.5kg       7kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          13st 13lb    27lb         13lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    
  • cush123
    cush123 Posts: 75
    NAME           HEIGHT    START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark               217lb        196lb         196lb       21lb        0lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          74.5kg      -2.5kg      9.5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       192lbs        196.8lbs     3.2lbs        4.8lb
    Cush123          1.83m   93kg         82kg          86.6kg      6.4kg       4.6kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.6kg      0.4kg       6.6kg
    Domgears         1.80m   106.5kg      85kg          90.5kg      16kg       5.5kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          87kg       -6kg         4kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          70.4kg      3.6kg       1.4kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         179.7lb     4.3lb       15.7lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          85.5kg      3.5kg       2.5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          94kg        14kg         -1kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze    1.84m    87kg         81kg          82.1kg      4.9kg       1.1kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   113kg        15St          112kg       1kg         10kg
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     13st 1lb   2lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          70kg        2kg         3kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        92.5kg      0.5kg       7kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          13st 13lb    27lb         13lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    
  • keyser__soze
    keyser__soze Posts: 2,067
    NAME           HEIGHT    START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark               217lb        196lb         196lb       21lb        0lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          74.5kg      -2.5kg      9.5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       192lbs        196.8lbs     3.2lbs        4.8lb
    Cush123          1.83m   93kg         82kg          86.6kg      6.4kg       4.6kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.6kg      0.4kg       6.6kg
    Domgears         1.80m   106.5kg      85kg          90.5kg      16kg       5.5kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          87kg       -6kg         4kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          70.4kg      3.6kg       1.4kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         179.7lb     4.3lb       15.7lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          85.5kg      3.5kg       2.5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          94kg        14kg         -1kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze    1.84m    87kg         81kg          80.7kg      6.3kg       -0.3kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   113kg        15St          112kg       1kg         10kg
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     13st 1lb   2lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          70kg        2kg         3kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        92.5kg      0.5kg       7kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          13st 13lb    27lb         13lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    

    A few days off the bike due to errands, trips and parties and I'm down 6lbs! Probably acutely aware of the lack of exercise so don't eat anything like as much on non-bike days.
    "Mummy Mummy, when will I grow up?"
    "Don't be silly son, you're a bloke, you'll never grow up"
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    itboffin wrote:
    NAME                     START      TARGET     NOW        SO FAR   TO GO
    itboffin                 184lb      164lb      172lb      12lb     8lb
    itboffin                 184lb      164lb      183.4lb    .6lb     HELL
    itboffin                 184lb      164lb      175lb      9lb      11lb
    itboffin                 184lb      164lb      173lb      11lb     9lb
    

    Well i've missed this years target from now on i'm going to stuff my face in preparation for winter.
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • If anyone has failed to meet their target this year can I suggest you ask Father Christmas for this little book? Might not work, but it's a chance I'm prepared to take.
    Nobody told me we had a communication problem
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    I'm totally stumped. Went to the USA for two weeks and didn't cycle but ate American-style. So what do you think happened? Well, my trousers got tighter as I expected BUT my weight went DOWN. So am I really losing more muscle mass than fat mass gained? Those cheery chaps in Road Training (that's sarcasm for the most humourless bunch of people I've ever found on the Web) would tell me I'm an idiot for thinking that. But they're at a loss to explain it.
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • Initialised
    Initialised Posts: 3,047
    I'm totally stumped. Went to the USA for two weeks and didn't cycle but ate American-style. So what do you think happened? Well, my trousers got tighter as I expected BUT my weight went DOWN. So am I really losing more muscle mass than fat mass gained? Those cheery chaps in Road Training (that's sarcasm for the most humourless bunch of people I've ever found on the Web) would tell me I'm an idiot for thinking that. But they're at a loss to explain it.
    That happened to me both this year and last year's holiday though they did both include walking and cycling, and just not nearly as much as usually.
    I used to just ride my bike to work but now I find myself going out looking for bigger and bigger hills.
  • jedster
    jedster Posts: 1,717
    Anyone see that Horizon programme on the health benefits of fasting?
    I'm giving it a whirl.

    I posted that 23 August.
    Been doing the two days a week on 600 cals, eat what I like on the other days, 4 days of 20mile commutes per week since then. Typically one other run or swim or gym session per week.

    Lost 5kg in under two months. Haven't found it difficult.

    Currently at my lowest weight for at least 15 years.

    Worth a go

    J
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    jedster wrote:
    Anyone see that Horizon programme on the health benefits of fasting?
    I'm giving it a whirl.

    I posted that 23 August.
    Been doing the two days a week on 600 cals, eat what I like on the other days, 4 days of 20mile commutes per week since then. Typically one other run or swim or gym session per week.

    Lost 5kg in under two months. Haven't found it difficult.

    Currently at my lowest weight for at least 15 years.

    Worth a go

    J

    What do you eat for your 600kcals?
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    NAME           HEIGHT    START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark               217lb        196lb         196lb       21lb        0lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          70.0kg      2kg      5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       192lbs        196.8lbs     3.2lbs        4.8lb
    Cush123          1.83m   93kg         82kg          86.6kg      6.4kg       4.6kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.6kg      0.4kg       6.6kg
    Domgears         1.80m   106.5kg      85kg          90.5kg      16kg       5.5kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          87kg       -6kg         4kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          70.4kg      3.6kg       1.4kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         179.7lb     4.3lb       15.7lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          85.5kg      3.5kg       2.5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          94kg        14kg         -1kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze    1.84m    87kg         81kg          80.7kg      6.3kg       -0.3kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   113kg        15St          112kg       1kg         10kg
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     13st 1lb   2lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          70kg        2kg         3kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        92.5kg      0.5kg       7kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          13st 13lb    27lb         13lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    


    70kg this morning. I appear to be losing weight at the moment.

    Woot.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • jedster
    jedster Posts: 1,717
    What do you eat for your 600kcals?

    sorry missed that.

    Breakfast - skinny cappucino

    Lunch - big pack of fruit salad, muller light yogurt

    Late afternoon - skinny cappucino, bag of popcorn

    Evening - apple or piece of toast

    Obviously I feel hungry but not desperately so and knowing that I can eat what I like the next day helps me stick with it.
  • Irvinet
    Irvinet Posts: 117
    jedster wrote:
    Anyone see that Horizon programme on the health benefits of fasting?
    I'm giving it a whirl.

    I posted that 23 August.
    Been doing the two days a week on 600 cals, eat what I like on the other days, 4 days of 20mile commutes per week since then. Typically one other run or swim or gym session per week.

    Lost 5kg in under two months. Haven't found it difficult.

    I would add a vote for Intermittent Fasting if anyone is considering it. I started on the 7th of August with two days a week and then shifted to three days a week to speed up the weight loss a bit.

    I am down 8kg(18lb) in two and a half months. Slow and steady but I see no reason why I will not be able to keep it up till I hit my goal, probably around March 2013 and then drop back to 1 or 2 days a week forever for some of the health benefits.

    I can't stand calorie counting so I just eat nothing on the fast day except dinner which I keep to a "small portion." No real impact on my day to day life and I just swap the fast days around to fit in with social life.. wish I had found about it 15 years ago.
    Roberts Audax - Raleigh Fixie - Thorn Tandem
  • jedster
    jedster Posts: 1,717
    No real impact on my day to day life and I just swap the fast days around to fit in with social life.. wish I had found about it 15 years ago

    Yeah, that's how I feel about it but obviously only 2 months in so may be getting a bit carried away.
    I think I'd be able to maintain my target weight with 1 day per week plus the excercise I enjoy doing. That should be easy (famous last words...)
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    I haven't had dinner yet what I notice most when I'm hungry I get really cold, like need a jacket kinda cold.

    Right now my fingers and toes are like ice
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • jedster
    jedster Posts: 1,717
    ITB,

    I'm not sure that fasting can work for everyone. I did some mountaineering with a guy who basically had to eat every hour or he got dizzy/mood swings etc.

    The Horizon documentary did suggest that fasting can be helpful in resetting blood chemistry so that the body begins to manage blood sugar swings more smoothly but I don't know how strong the evidence is. I suspect your blood sugar levels fluctuate more widely than mine.
  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    Might have to give this fasting thing a try. Sounds like the sort of thing I'd find easy as I never really need eat (just want to eat!)
    NAME           HEIGHT    START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark               217lb        196lb         196lb       21lb        0lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          70.0kg      2kg      5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       192lbs        196.8lbs     3.2lbs        4.8lb
    Cush123          1.83m   93kg         82kg          86.6kg      6.4kg       4.6kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.6kg      0.4kg       6.6kg
    Domgears         1.80m   106.5kg      85kg          90.5kg      16kg       5.5kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          87kg       -6kg         4kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          70.4kg      3.6kg       1.4kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         179.7lb     4.3lb       15.7lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          85.5kg      3.5kg       2.5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          94kg        14kg         -1kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze    1.84m    87kg         81kg          80.7kg      6.3kg       -0.3kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   113kg        15St          112kg       1kg         10kg
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     13st 1lb   2lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          70kg        2kg         3kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        90.0kg      3.0kg     4.5kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          13st 13lb    27lb         13lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    
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  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    4,000 odd miles this year so far pretty much the same weight as the start of there year. Cycling does not equal weight loss, at least not for me. Need another plan....
    --
    Chris

    Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Sketchley wrote:
    4,000 odd miles this year so far pretty much the same weight as the start of there year. Cycling does not equal weight loss, at least not for me. Need another plan....

    Are you looking to lose weight or change body shape / body fat %.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,660
    Added myself. Done a lot more cycling since the summer and starting to show. Need to keep it up over the winter now.
    NAME           HEIGHT    START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark               217lb        196lb         196lb       21lb        0lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          70.0kg      2kg      5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       192lbs        196.8lbs     3.2lbs        4.8lb
    Cush123          1.83m   93kg         82kg          86.6kg      6.4kg       4.6kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.6kg      0.4kg       6.6kg
    Domgears         1.80m   106.5kg      85kg          90.5kg      16kg       5.5kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          87kg       -6kg         4kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          70.4kg      3.6kg       1.4kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         179.7lb     4.3lb       15.7lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          85.5kg      3.5kg       2.5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          94kg        14kg         -1kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze    1.84m    87kg         81kg          80.7kg      6.3kg       -0.3kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   113kg        15St          112kg       1kg         10kg
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Pangolin         1.88m   105kg         90kg          101kg        4kg         16kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     13st 1lb   2lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          70kg        2kg         3kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        90.0kg      3.0kg     4.5kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          13st 13lb    27lb         13lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    Asprilla wrote:
    Sketchley wrote:
    4,000 odd miles this year so far pretty much the same weight as the start of there year. Cycling does not equal weight loss, at least not for me. Need another plan....

    Are you looking to lose weight or change body shape / body fat %.

    The latter, I've done it to some extend although it could go further. However, ultimatley I want to go up hills faster which means the former. So both!
    --
    Chris

    Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    jedster wrote:
    What do you eat for your 600kcals?

    sorry missed that.

    Breakfast - skinny cappucino

    Lunch - big pack of fruit salad, muller light yogurt

    Late afternoon - skinny cappucino, bag of popcorn

    Evening - apple or piece of toast

    Obviously I feel hungry but not desperately so and knowing that I can eat what I like the next day helps me stick with it.

    Ooh - that's interesting. Mrs MRS, who has been researching this, seems to believe that, for it to work, you should also actually eat as few times as possible during the day: ie once or twice. You seem to demonstrate otherwise - though I guess you don't know whether your approach is effective at switching off the production of IGF-1 hormone.

    Anyhow, I've started today with a 300kCal bowl of porridge made with water. I've made it to lunchtime....
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • jedster
    jedster Posts: 1,717
    Well I think there are two different things:
    a) does intermittent fasting offer a doable way of reducing calorie intake
    b) does it also cause beneficial hormonal changes (blood chemistry, cell repair, etc)

    Even if it isn't doing the second, I think it is a good way of doing the first - it just seems a practical, psychologically sympathetic pattern to me.

    But on the second point, bear in mind that I am typically commuting 10 miles each way on a fast day. This means I get up in the morning having not eaten since the previous evening, run down my glycogen stores on the commute, don't consume enough to meet by base demand during the day so should still be emptying glyocgen or fat burning, will be fat burning on the commute home and then fat burn through the night as the body tries to rebuild glycogen stores,

    What I'm saying is that I think the exercise that I'm doing means that eating bits and pieces during the day probably isn't enough to derail the hormonal changes. My reading suggested that the hormonal changes from fasting are very similar to those caused by lots of exercise.
  • Irvinet
    Irvinet Posts: 117
    Ooh - that's interesting. Mrs MRS, who has been researching this, seems to believe that, for it to work, you should also actually eat as few times as possible during the day: ie once or twice. You seem to demonstrate otherwise - though I guess you don't know whether your approach is effective at switching off the production of IGF-1 hormone.

    Anyhow, I've started today with a 300kCal bowl of porridge made with water. I've made it to lunchtime....

    The weight loss bit is depressingly simple. A kg of fat = around 9000kcal so you need to create a deficit of this amount to shift the kg.

    Each fasting day you create a deficit of around 2000kcal (varies of course) and assuming you don't manage to catch up the non-fasting days you will lose weight matching the deficit over time.

    There is nothing "magic" about the fasting when it comes to weight loss. The reasons it is better for me than normal dieting are all psychological. I find it far easier to face the idea of one day where I eat nothing till dinner time but then know I can have a normal day tomorrow and repeat that patten all week and then have a normal weekend than saying for the next six months you have to keep to down to 1700kcal a day. It is just so much more appealing to take the pain in short sharp bursts rather than looking ahead at months of denial. Also, from a self discipline and will power perspective I find it much easier to eat nothing than little.

    Somehow the body seems to be happy with the pattern as well... which does seem to make a bit of sense from a historical perspective: you did not manage to catch that antelope today so you go hungry, but when you get that rabbit tomorrow you a happy to wolf the whole thing down. Whereas a normal diet just feels like long term starvation.

    So, nothing magic but maybe a more psychologically appealing way to restrict calories for people with personalities like mine.

    However, where there *might* be some magic is in the other health benefits that come along with fasting, such as the reduction of IGF-1, increased insulin sensitivity, slowing of loss of mental capacity etc, etc.... Long term studies in humans don't exist and the ones in animals are inconclusive. Anecdotally, I feel great! :)

    For the reasons above I treat the fast days as real fasts... water and black tea only. Zero calories for 24 hours. After the first couple of weeks it is so easy I barely notice the fast days.. Except for the cold.. you will feel the cold more but that is easily fixed with a nice cardigan. :)
    Roberts Audax - Raleigh Fixie - Thorn Tandem
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    Yup - the calorie deficit bit is very simple. I'm guessing it also helps reduce the amount you eat on other days (certainly anecdotally, that's what people say) maybe through habit and "shrinking" of the stomach.

    The IGF-1 bit I'm particularly interested in - I work in the diabetes industry so I know enough to not want to go there and I've had more exposure to cancer in the last couple of years than I'd hoped to have in an entire lifetime so not adding to that would be nice too.

    Returning to weight loss - I am interested to see if I can blow through the plateau I seem to reach on the overall mass: seemingly I'm destined to weigh around 90kg whether that's made up of muscle or fat - whether I have a 32" waist or a 35" waist.

    ETA - It's nearly 5pm and I've made it on just the small coffee cup of oats and the water I used to make porridge at 8am this morning. I don't feel bad at all.
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • Initialised
    Initialised Posts: 3,047
    2kg down, 2kg to go
    NAME           HEIGHT    START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark               217lb        196lb         196lb       21lb        0lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          70.0kg      2kg      5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       192lbs        196.8lbs     3.2lbs        4.8lb
    Cush123          1.83m   93kg         82kg          86.6kg      6.4kg       4.6kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.6kg      0.4kg       6.6kg
    Domgears         1.80m   106.5kg      85kg          90.5kg      16kg       5.5kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          85kg       -8kg         2kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          70.4kg      3.6kg       1.4kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         179.7lb     4.3lb       15.7lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          85.5kg      3.5kg       2.5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          94kg        14kg         -1kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze    1.84m    87kg         81kg          80.7kg      6.3kg       -0.3kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   113kg        15St          112kg       1kg         10kg
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Pangolin         1.88m   105kg         90kg          101kg        4kg         16kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     13st 1lb   2lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          70kg        2kg         3kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        90.0kg      3.0kg     4.5kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          13st 13lb    27lb         13lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    
    I used to just ride my bike to work but now I find myself going out looking for bigger and bigger hills.
  • Was about 87-88kg at the beginning of Sept. Now bordering 81. Aiming for somewhere around 73-74.

    Pretty simple so far, but the first few are easy - real low hanging fruit.
    Swim. Bike. Run. Yeah. That's what I used to do.

    Bike 1
    Bike 2-A
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    Holy Cats - I hope that this intermittent fasting works. On my second day this week of 600kcals - it's not fun
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    Full fry up this morning after 12 different beers last night, then a lovely gammon steak dinner and time for a few more beers

    Ho ho ho
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    itboffin wrote:
    Full fry up this morning after 12 different beers last night, then a lovely gammon steak dinner and time for a few more beers

    Ho ho ho

    Shouldn't you be back on the turbo???!!! :evil: :wink::wink:
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH