Silly Commuter Weight Loss
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JZed wrote:15 stone 6 lbs brings total loss to 22 lbs. 6 to go (may even try and lose 1/2 stone more). Then start eating more and training more to build up the power for June/July.
You are going well . . .
What's your calorie intake a day?Fixed gear for wet weather / hairy roadie for posing in the sun.
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Greg T wrote:JZed wrote:15 stone 6 lbs brings total loss to 22 lbs. 6 to go (may even try and lose 1/2 stone more). Then start eating more and training more to build up the power for June/July.
You are going well . . .
What's your calorie intake a day?
2 lettuce leaves - feels like that anyway.
Monday - Friday calorie intake of 1,500 to 2,000 with an hours cycling, means I'm running a deficit of around 1,000 a day. Saturday-Sunday I am less controlled.
Biggest difference is less beer, no cakes biscuits during the day.0 -
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yoyoing like a barsteward but back in the zone where your cycle shorts don't do annoying things with flabby belleh folds when you're hunched over.Le Cannon [98 Cannondale M400] [FCN: 8]
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Rick Chasey wrote:JZed, noticed any pickup in performance on the bike now you're 10kg lighter?
None. But then again didn't expect any. With the big deficit, I just don't have the energy. This is the first stage of my master plan for summer.
Weight loss whilst weather is rubbish. Target 15%
Then start to increase the calorie intake and training. Increase power by 5-10% over last year through a more focused regime including suffer sessions on the turbo. Keep the weight off.
Get a lighter stiffer bike.
If the power and new bike don't happen, just lugging less weight up the Col's on Marmotte will do me.0 -
JZed wrote:Monday - Friday calorie intake of 1,500 to 2,000 with an hours cycling, means I'm running a deficit of around 1,000 a day. Saturday-Sunday I am less controlled.
I've been running at an average of 2K cals intake a day with an average of 10hrs riding a week.
I'm having to come south of 2K a day as I'm going nowhere . . 20% body fat. decking hell
Targetting an average of 1,800 cals a day intake a day from here.Fixed gear for wet weather / hairy roadie for posing in the sun.
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Greg T wrote:I've been running at an average of 2K cals intake a day with an average of 10hrs riding a week.
I'm having to come south of 2K a day as I'm going nowhere . . 20% body fat. decking hell
Targetting an average of 1,800 cals a day intake a day from here.
You'd be running around 700-1,000 calorie deficit wouldn't you. Read it takes 3,500 of deficit to shift 1lb of fat.0 -
That's a very low cal intake for an active person both of you, i'd take it easy if I was you, perhaps try smaller intact reductions.
I've cut out all non meal time snacks and beer during the week, which seems to lose me about 1lb a week - minimal distance cycling 100 miles a week max.Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
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Greg T wrote:JZed wrote:Monday - Friday calorie intake of 1,500 to 2,000 with an hours cycling, means I'm running a deficit of around 1,000 a day. Saturday-Sunday I am less controlled.
I've been running at an average of 2K cals intake a day with an average of 10hrs riding a week.
I'm having to come south of 2K a day as I'm going nowhere . . 20% body fat. decking hell
Targetting an average of 1,800 cals a day intake a day from here.
It's really fecking hard. Don't forget breakfast though. It's about sustained loss over the week though. I've found that if I cycle I can be a bit more generous with lunch and snackage regardless of its healthiness. The problem being is when you don't - be far more alert to going over the calorie count.
Don't forget to mix in doing weights if you can. If you're dieting but just doing cardio - your system will preferentially utilise any muscle you already have to meet the deificit. Trick is to do hard weights and force your system to produce more muscle. This (biologically) interefers with the bodys consumption of the muscle it and forces the body to then use fat stores instead - feedback mechanisms.Le Cannon [98 Cannondale M400] [FCN: 8]
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itboffin wrote:That's a very low cal intake for an active person both of you, i'd take it easy if I was you, perhaps try smaller intact reductions..
Tried that.
I've come down from 2,500 all the way through the low 2,000s for the last month and have shifted nothing.
<2K it is. I fear I may have to pick up something heavy like MM says . . . shudder . . .Fixed gear for wet weather / hairy roadie for posing in the sun.
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JZed wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:JZed, noticed any pickup in performance on the bike now you're 10kg lighter?
None. But then again didn't expect any. With the big deficit, I just don't have the energy. This is the first stage of my master plan for summer.
Weight loss whilst weather is rubbish. Target 15%
Then start to increase the calorie intake and training. Increase power by 5-10% over last year through a more focused regime including suffer sessions on the turbo. Keep the weight off.
Get a lighter stiffer bike.
If the power and new bike don't happen, just lugging less weight up the Col's on Marmotte will do me.
Yeah. It should make a massive difference. 10% is a lot.
Then again, London is basically pan flat, so in that respect it doesn't make any difference.0 -
NAME HEIGHT START TARGET NOW SO FAR TO GO Agent57 13st 9lb 11st 11lb 13st 7lb 2lb 1st 10lb Allez Mark 1.86m 217lb 196lb 208lb 9lb 12lb Anomymousblackfg 1.86m 92kg 82kg 92kg 0kg 10kg Asprilla 72kg 65kg 74.5kg -2.5kg 9.5kg cib 88kg 81kg 88kg 0kg 7kg clarkey cat 1.86m 200lbs 185lbs 198lbs 2lbs 13lb Cush123 93kg 82kg 92.3kg 0.7kg 10.3kg cyclingprop 119kg 105kg* 119kg 0kg 14kg Dodgerdog 82kg 75kg 81.6kg 0.4kg 6.6kg Dog Breath 1.75m 75kg 68kg 73.0kg 2.0kg 5.0kg Initialised 1.8m 93kg 83kg 93kg +0kg 10kg IP 74kg 69kg 71.2kg 2.8kg 2.2kg itboffin 184lb 164lb 179.7lb 4.3lb 15.7lb JT 89kg 83kg 88kg 1kg 5kg JZed 1.94m 108kg 95kg 98kg 10kg 3kg KateF 64kg 58kg 64kg 0kg 6kg keyser__soze 87kg 81kg 87kg 0kg 6kg Leodis75 93kg 76kg 93kg 0kg 17kg meanredspider 95kg 85kg 95kg 0kg 10kg mkirby 99kg 85kg 99kg 0kg 14kg MsMancunia 73kg 59kg 73kg 0kg 14kg Mudcow007 1.87m 113kg 15St 112kg 1kg 10kg ngale 13st 10lb 9st 6lb 13st 10lb 0lb 4st 4lb OptimisticBiker 1.70m 69kg 65kg 69kg 0kg 4kg Phy2sll2 1.77m 66kg 58kg 63kg 3kg 5kg Roger Merriman 6ft 13st 3lb 12st 10lb 12st 13lb 3lb 6lb Sketchley 117kg 95kg 115kg 2kg 20kg Stevo 666 1.77m 72kg 67kg 71kg 1kg 4kg Tabh 125kg 108kg 125kg 0kg 17kg TailWindHome 86kg 75kg 86kg 0kg 11kg TheStone 1.85m 93kg 85.5kg 92.5kg 0.5kg 7kg ToeKnee 1.89m 96kg 86kg 94.5kg 1.5kg 8.5kg Welkman 1.91m 15st 12lb 13st 15st 4lb 8lb 32lb WesternWay 106kg 85kg 106kg 0kg 21kg Wineboar 122kg 100kg 118.8kg 3.2kg 18.8kg Woodnut 75kg 69kg 75kg 0kg 6kg
This is slow going. I have visibly lost fat on my stomach though. Not been as disciplined in Feb and have ridden less thanks to the weather. However, it's the best start to the year I've had in ages and I'm ramping the mileage up. Aiming for another 65 miles this weekend and will aim for 70's in March building up to longer hillier rides through April & May. Still, managing to (mostly) avoid crap during the week. Have massively cut down on the alcohol intake as well.
Out of interest, do you lot tend to get very hungry in the evenings? I've found I can end up overeating when I get home. Scarfed down a pack of Jaffa Cakes last night - although I did head to RP this morning rather than get on the dreaded TT.
Having said all that, I am hankering after coffee cake today, may have to scratch that itch.
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MonkeyMonster wrote:Don't forget to mix in doing weights if you can. If you're dieting but just doing cardio - your system will preferentially utilise any muscle you already have to meet the deificit. Trick is to do hard weights and force your system to produce more muscle. This (biologically) interefers with the bodys consumption of the muscle it and forces the body to then use fat stores instead - feedback mechanisms.
Really? Surely (as a cyclist) you only want cycling muscle. If you diet and cycle 6 days a week, won't your body know not to cannibalise those active/in demand muscles? Also I'd kinda hoped that eating plenty of protein would help as well?- 2023 Vielo V+1
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Il Principe wrote:Really? Surely (as a cyclist) you only want cycling muscle. If you diet and cycle 6 days a week, won't your body know not to cannibalise those active/in demand muscles? Also I'd kinda hoped that eating plenty of protein would help as well?
It's all about usage. If you have good muscles - you use them - you don't build them so the body will still take what it wants. It's forcing the body to shift to the process of putting on muscle that is the key. Knowing zed and greg - they will have good muscles for the commute already. If they instead pushed themselves to endurance levels absolutely hammering it every day to gain leg muscle then they'd notice the drop and not just because they were using more calories. But just using the existing stuff I don't think works like you'd hope. Utilising fat and protein as energy sources also takes more water than carbs g per g so keep yourself hydrated.Le Cannon [98 Cannondale M400] [FCN: 8]
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I've gone from being starving all the time - to getting used of it. Was doing porridge in the morning but needed a snack before lunch. Weetabix seems to have sorted that. Then rabbit food for lunch, and then some low fat meat or fish for dinner with some veg. If I've done a lap of the park I'll have an ale to wash it all down. Haven't found it too bad in the evening.
GregT - are you monitoring calories in drinks. Think thats where I was going wrong, latte's were adding 200 a time, hydration/energy drink another 200 a time.0 -
itboffin wrote:That's a very low cal intake for an active person both of you, i'd take it easy if I was you, perhaps try smaller intact reductions.
I've cut out all non meal time snacks and beer during the week, which seems to lose me about 1lb a week - minimal distance cycling 100 miles a week max.
Now I don't need to lose any weight, but this has got me interested. I'd always assumed that I took in quite a lot of calories. Checked one of the online jobbies and I should be aiming for about 2400kcal a day to hold things steady. Adding up my breakfast - 3x weetabix + raisins; 3 x wholemeal toast + peanut butter; glass of OJ - and lunch - large cheese & salad sandwich made from scratch + cake/flapjack/maltloaf + apple + banana - comes to about 1200kcal. Which means that either I eat a bigger dinner than I thought, or some calcs are wrong. :?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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rjsterry wrote:itboffin wrote:That's a very low cal intake for an active person both of you, i'd take it easy if I was you, perhaps try smaller intact reductions.
I've cut out all non meal time snacks and beer during the week, which seems to lose me about 1lb a week - minimal distance cycling 100 miles a week max.
Now I don't need to lose any weight, but this has got me interested. I'd always assumed that I took in quite a lot of calories. Checked one of the online jobbies and I should be aiming for about 2400kcal a day to hold things steady. Adding up my breakfast - 3x weetabix + raisins; 3 x wholemeal toast + peanut butter; glass of OJ - and lunch - large cheese & salad sandwich made from scratch + cake/flapjack/maltloaf + apple + banana - comes to about 1200kcal. Which means that either I eat a bigger dinner than I thought, or some calcs are wrong. :?
Mine's roughly 1200-1500.
Then again' I'm a fair bit smaller. but still. Not losing any weight (can't afford to really).0 -
rjsterry wrote:itboffin wrote:That's a very low cal intake for an active person both of you, i'd take it easy if I was you, perhaps try smaller intact reductions.
I've cut out all non meal time snacks and beer during the week, which seems to lose me about 1lb a week - minimal distance cycling 100 miles a week max.
Now I don't need to lose any weight, but this has got me interested. I'd always assumed that I took in quite a lot of calories. Checked one of the online jobbies and I should be aiming for about 2400kcal a day to hold things steady. Adding up my breakfast - 3x weetabix + raisins; 3 x wholemeal toast + peanut butter; glass of OJ - and lunch - large cheese & salad sandwich made from scratch + cake/flapjack/maltloaf + apple + banana - comes to about 1200kcal. Which means that either I eat a bigger dinner than I thought, or some calcs are wrong. :?
See the calorie count things are also moving goalposts PLUS the fitter you are the more efficient you are. You're lean and have good cycle muscle structure. If you took someone who'd never cycled before and put him doing your distance he might need 2400 - but you don't.
Plus as you get older your digestion is more efficient in that you don't flash burn calories and thus can managed more sustained benefit from what you eat.
Older super long distance runners/skiers etc are better at maintaining energy levels than the youngsters which is why it's not always the young blood who do best at these tihngs. /sidepointLe Cannon [98 Cannondale M400] [FCN: 8]
The Mad Monkey [2013 Hoy 003] [FCN: 4]0 -
The calorie counter thing reckons I need to aim at 1800 calories a day to lose 2lb a week. With an hour of exercise a day I "buy" another 800 apparently. I consume around 1,500. So I'm running a supposed deficit of 1,100. Seems to work.0
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MonkeyMonster wrote:You're lean and have good cycle muscle structure.
You're too kind. :oops:
Or are you just flirting?
EDIT: I remember you posting on the glasses thread the other day - do you need your prescription checked?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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JZed wrote:GregT - are you monitoring calories in drinks. Think thats where I was going wrong, latte's were adding 200 a time, hydration/energy drink another 200 a time.
yep . .
I'd rather die than admit to drinking latte mind . . .
I even add 400ml a milk a day to balance off the tea and swigs i take from the carton.
I use myfitnesspal to record my cals per day - given up recording exercise as it just gives you 1,000s of cals you don't need to compensate . . .
2,400 cals a day to maintain body weight is for me an absolute load of crap. 2,400 plus let's say a conservative 1,000 cals (my garmin says 2,905 for my standard there and back commute) that should put me about 3,500 calories a day to maintain my body weight
never in a million years . . . . I'd be spherical . . .
1,800 a day and 10hrs riding a week and I may even have to go and do some resistance training - it's just taking too long. 15% body fat is my goal, 5% to go.Fixed gear for wet weather / hairy roadie for posing in the sun.
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JZed wrote:The calorie counter thing reckons I need to aim at 1800 calories a day to lose 2lb a week. With an hour of exercise a day I "buy" another 800 apparently. I consume around 1,500. So I'm running a supposed deficit of 1,100. Seems to work.
an hour and you burn 800... hmmmmmm. I'd say aim with the idea you burn half, maybe 2/3 of that depending on what this exercise is of course but go with a lower figure and be more harsh with yourself - especially if you don't think it's working that quickly...
you can always be more harsh to begin with to jump start the mechanism and then scale back a little.Le Cannon [98 Cannondale M400] [FCN: 8]
The Mad Monkey [2013 Hoy 003] [FCN: 4]0 -
NAME HEIGHT START TARGET NOW SO FAR TO GO Agent57 13st 9lb 11st 11lb 13st 7lb 2lb 1st 10lb Allez Mark 1.86m 217lb 196lb 208lb 9lb 12lb Anomymousblackfg 1.86m 92kg 82kg 92kg 0kg 10kg Asprilla 72kg 65kg 74.5kg -2.5kg 9.5kg cib 88kg 81kg 88kg 0kg 7kg clarkey cat 1.86m 200lbs 185lbs 198lbs 2lbs 13lb Cush123 93kg 82kg 92.3kg 0.7kg 10.3kg cyclingprop 119kg 105kg* 119kg 0kg 14kg Dodgerdog 82kg 75kg 81.6kg 0.4kg 6.6kg Dog Breath 1.75m 75kg 68kg 73.0kg 2.0kg 5.0kg Initialised 1.8m 93kg 83kg 93kg +0kg 10kg IP 74kg 69kg 71.2kg 2.8kg 2.2kg itboffin 184lb 164lb 179.7lb 4.3lb 15.7lb JT 89kg 83kg 88kg 1kg 5kg JZed 1.94m 108kg 95kg 98kg 10kg 3kg KateF 64kg 58kg 64kg 0kg 6kg keyser__soze 1.84m 87kg 81kg 84.8kg 2.2kg 3.8kg Leodis75 93kg 76kg 93kg 0kg 17kg meanredspider 95kg 85kg 95kg 0kg 10kg mkirby 99kg 85kg 99kg 0kg 14kg MsMancunia 73kg 59kg 73kg 0kg 14kg Mudcow007 1.87m 113kg 15St 112kg 1kg 10kg ngale 13st 10lb 9st 6lb 13st 10lb 0lb 4st 4lb OptimisticBiker 1.70m 69kg 65kg 69kg 0kg 4kg Phy2sll2 1.77m 66kg 58kg 63kg 3kg 5kg Roger Merriman 6ft 13st 3lb 12st 10lb 12st 13lb 3lb 6lb Sketchley 117kg 95kg 115kg 2kg 20kg Stevo 666 1.77m 72kg 67kg 71kg 1kg 4kg Tabh 125kg 108kg 125kg 0kg 17kg TailWindHome 86kg 75kg 86kg 0kg 11kg TheStone 1.85m 93kg 85.5kg 92.5kg 0.5kg 7kg ToeKnee 1.89m 96kg 86kg 94.5kg 1.5kg 8.5kg Welkman 1.91m 15st 12lb 13st 15st 4lb 8lb 32lb WesternWay 106kg 85kg 106kg 0kg 21kg Wineboar 122kg 100kg 118.8kg 3.2kg 18.8kg Woodnut 75kg 69kg 75kg 0kg 6kg
Weight not flying off but I'm sure I'm putting on muscle and losing fat. Big discrepancy between my home scales and the body fat monitor at my work's health centre too, much lower percentage of body fat on the latter."Mummy Mummy, when will I grow up?"
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MonkeyMonster wrote:JZed wrote:The calorie counter thing reckons I need to aim at 1800 calories a day to lose 2lb a week. With an hour of exercise a day I "buy" another 800 apparently. I consume around 1,500. So I'm running a supposed deficit of 1,100. Seems to work.
an hour and you burn 800... hmmmmmm. I'd say aim with the idea you burn half, maybe 2/3 of that depending on what this exercise is of course but go with a lower figure and be more harsh with yourself - especially if you don't think it's working that quickly...
you can always be more harsh to begin with to jump start the mechanism and then scale back a little.
800 seems about right to me. There's a range from around 500-1000 per hour. I have to carry a higher weight around with me and push more air out of the way, so reckon I use more fuel.
Whatever it is my in/out balance seems to be working. 7 weeks of the year done and 22lbs dropped. If I listened to the calorie calculator then its unlikely I would have dropped any weight.0 -
good work all and btw if you're wondering why i spout this stuff - my degree was in biology and I did an entire module in the 2nd year on metabolism, so it's not shite, that comes later...
i'd suggest using tape measures for people who're gaining muscle. that will give you a good indicator of how much fat is going for areas.
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Keyser__Soze wrote:Weight not flying off but I'm sure I'm putting on muscle and losing fat. Big discrepancy between my home scales and the body fat monitor at my work's health centre too, much lower percentage of body fat on the latter.
I thought it was generally agreed that bathroom scales body fat monitors were pretty inaccurate.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Looking like another 3lbs off. Will need to do a weigh in tonight just to confirm as could have just been dehydration.0
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Greg T wrote:rjsterry wrote:I thought it was generally agreed that bathroom scales body fat monitors were pretty inaccurate.
but they are Fecking consistent I can tell you that for nothing . . . . .
They just measure the bioelectrical impedence of your body, which indicates the density of your body - this is then related to a typical fat percentage for the given density. So if you keep getting the same reading, that just means that your density hasn't changed.
http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/bodyfatscales.html
Have you tried comparing the readings from other people?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Unless the excessive weight loss is turning me mental, despite successfully logging in to the stats site, it gives me no option to update. Never mind.
Down to 86.5kg on my Friday weigh in, which is nothing to get excited about, but I'll happily accept it considering I had two Michelin starred meals last week and quite a few bottles of wine. At least when I put my lycra on these days I look a lot less like a condom stuffed with 3 oranges. May go hardcore next week.0
