Strava.com - Put your money where your mouth is

il_principe

Well Strava says another PB fell this morning - RP Clockwise in 17:57. Was very surprised by that as I wasn't feeling good at all - amazing the damage too much food and a few days off the bike can do. Stupid Easter

Managed 2 laps in the time I had, slowed by traffic on lap 2. Still, hopefully it bodes well for later on in the year when the weather's warmer and I'm a little fitter. http://app.strava.com/segments/1117004

okgo

Good work!

What do you think you can get down to for a 1 lap max? I was a bit depressed to see one of my clubmates go out on his road bike that had just been fitted with tt bars and bash out a 16.06 so I have some work to do.

Pufftmw

JamesFree wrote:

BigMat wrote:

I flagged a ride today - feel bad now. Somebody had come out of nowhere and stolen my 3 Denmark Hill KOM's. What made me suspicious was that for the long one, he took 14 seconds out of me. Now this isn't a long segment - my PR is 1:09 I think, so to hammer me by 15 seconds just seemed a bit much. I then checked out his ride and his top speed was 57mph so well dodgy. Thing is, when I googled him it turns out he's an elite cat rider so no doubt a hell of a lot faster than I am. But 15 seconds over that distance - I just can't see it. So, what do we reckon the difference between an enthusiastic 4th cat and an elite cat over half a mile averaging 3% could realistically be?

On a brighter note, three KOM's this morning and a PR up College Road this evening (still well adrift of my pre-Strava PB but moving in the right direction)

1 of them you stole from me!!! Grrr, Have'nt gone down Brookmill for a while so will need to start taking that route on the way home now!

Yeah I noticed that guy he seems super fast on some of his other rides but was looking at the KOM in question and it went from 4mph to about 30mph in a second so prob some dodgy data!

You're slipping young James... Take a look at Loampit Hill up for instance, you need to make up at least 4 seconds to regain your KOM

bigmat

Pufftmw wrote:

JamesFree wrote:

BigMat wrote:

I flagged a ride today - feel bad now. Somebody had come out of nowhere and stolen my 3 Denmark Hill KOM's. What made me suspicious was that for the long one, he took 14 seconds out of me. Now this isn't a long segment - my PR is 1:09 I think, so to hammer me by 15 seconds just seemed a bit much. I then checked out his ride and his top speed was 57mph so well dodgy. Thing is, when I googled him it turns out he's an elite cat rider so no doubt a hell of a lot faster than I am. But 15 seconds over that distance - I just can't see it. So, what do we reckon the difference between an enthusiastic 4th cat and an elite cat over half a mile averaging 3% could realistically be?

On a brighter note, three KOM's this morning and a PR up College Road this evening (still well adrift of my pre-Strava PB but moving in the right direction)

1 of them you stole from me!!! Grrr, Have'nt gone down Brookmill for a while so will need to start taking that route on the way home now!

Yeah I noticed that guy he seems super fast on some of his other rides but was looking at the KOM in question and it went from 4mph to about 30mph in a second so prob some dodgy data!

You're slipping young James... Take a look at Loampit Hill up for instance, you need to make up at least 4 seconds to regain your KOM

That was my KOM - doh! :evil:

dhope

BigMat wrote:

I flagged a ride today - feel bad now. Somebody had come out of nowhere and stolen my 3 Denmark Hill KOM's. What made me suspicious was that for the long one, he took 14 seconds out of me. Now this isn't a long segment - my PR is 1:09 I think, so to hammer me by 15 seconds just seemed a bit much. I then checked out his ride and his top speed was 57mph so well dodgy. Thing is, when I googled him it turns out he's an elite cat rider so no doubt a hell of a lot faster than I am. But 15 seconds over that distance - I just can't see it. So, what do we reckon the difference between an enthusiastic 4th cat and an elite cat over half a mile averaging 3% could realistically be?

On a brighter note, three KOM's this morning and a PR up College Road this evening (still well adrift of my pre-Strava PB but moving in the right direction)

I reckon the 15 seconds could be doable. You averaged 24mph, 15 seconds off that would be 30.6mph average
I've got a KOM on a 0.6miles 2% at 27.1mph and just about entry club level, so if an elite knocked some time off that I'd not feel too slighted.

That link is not an invite for you to take the KOM like you did Balham btw

Edit: Okay, I don't have that KOM anymore - a London Dynamo apparently averaged 38mph on it. Though he also hit 50+mph on the ride and has no cadence info despite it being on a Garmin 800. Bike on the car methinks, and flagged.

il_principe

okgo wrote:

Good work!

What do you think you can get down to for a 1 lap max? I was a bit depressed to see one of my clubmates go out on his road bike that had just been fitted with tt bars and bash out a 16.06 so I have some work to do.

In perfect conditions, after more training, in the drops with my deep rims - maybe a 17:00? But I don't race or do any really structured training, so I'd be pretty chuffed with a 17:30! Especially as my "training" is geared towards endurance.

Most of my best times this year have been set first thing in the morning, with shallow wheels, riding mainly on the hoods, so I'd hope that warm air, drops etc would help lose a few seconds without much more effort.

I've long since accepted that breaking into the top 40/30 is gonna be nigh on impossible, but there's nothing like a challenge!

okgo

Yeh, a few of the really quick times are Dynamo chaingangs.

Although its a bit weird, as you seemed to have been matched on that segment, I also started my lap from Roehampton but didn't get matched. But I did get matched on the one that it has 19 mins for you on, which is clearly wrong. A purge needs to take place.

bigmat

dhope wrote:

BigMat wrote:

I flagged a ride today - feel bad now. Somebody had come out of nowhere and stolen my 3 Denmark Hill KOM's. What made me suspicious was that for the long one, he took 14 seconds out of me. Now this isn't a long segment - my PR is 1:09 I think, so to hammer me by 15 seconds just seemed a bit much. I then checked out his ride and his top speed was 57mph so well dodgy. Thing is, when I googled him it turns out he's an elite cat rider so no doubt a hell of a lot faster than I am. But 15 seconds over that distance - I just can't see it. So, what do we reckon the difference between an enthusiastic 4th cat and an elite cat over half a mile averaging 3% could realistically be?

On a brighter note, three KOM's this morning and a PR up College Road this evening (still well adrift of my pre-Strava PB but moving in the right direction)

I reckon the 15 seconds could be doable. You averaged 24mph, 15 seconds off that would be 30.6mph average
I've got a KOM on a 0.6miles 2% at 27.1mph and just about entry club level, so if an elite knocked some time off that I'd not feel too slighted.

That link is not an invite for you to take the KOM like you did Balham btw

Edit: Okay, I don't have that KOM anymore - a London Dynamo apparently averaged 38mph on it. Though he also hit 50+mph on the ride and has no cadence info despite it being on a Garmin 800. Bike on the car methinks, and flagged.

That's the problem with flagging rides - they just get deleted (has happened to me with valid rides) - whereas I would happy for them to just email the guy and get him to confirm that he really was going that fast. Is there a way to "unflag" rides? I still find 54 seconds for this segment incredible though:

http://app.strava.com/segments/denmark- ... nue-776515

Its not like I just cruised through and happened to pick up the KOM, me and Ben Porter have been fighting for that one for a while and had reached the point where we were grazing the odd second. :?

Pufftmw

BigMat wrote:

Pufftmw wrote:

JamesFree wrote:

BigMat wrote:

I flagged a ride today - feel bad now. Somebody had come out of nowhere and stolen my 3 Denmark Hill KOM's. What made me suspicious was that for the long one, he took 14 seconds out of me. Now this isn't a long segment - my PR is 1:09 I think, so to hammer me by 15 seconds just seemed a bit much. I then checked out his ride and his top speed was 57mph so well dodgy. Thing is, when I googled him it turns out he's an elite cat rider so no doubt a hell of a lot faster than I am. But 15 seconds over that distance - I just can't see it. So, what do we reckon the difference between an enthusiastic 4th cat and an elite cat over half a mile averaging 3% could realistically be?

On a brighter note, three KOM's this morning and a PR up College Road this evening (still well adrift of my pre-Strava PB but moving in the right direction)

1 of them you stole from me!!! Grrr, Have'nt gone down Brookmill for a while so will need to start taking that route on the way home now!

Yeah I noticed that guy he seems super fast on some of his other rides but was looking at the KOM in question and it went from 4mph to about 30mph in a second so prob some dodgy data!

You're slipping young James... Take a look at Loampit Hill up for instance, you need to make up at least 4 seconds to regain your KOM

That was my KOM - doh! :evil:

True but it used to be James's a way back... But yes, you need to up your game too

il_principe

okgo wrote:

Yeh, a few of the really quick times are Dynamo chaingangs.

Although its a bit weird, as you seemed to have been matched on that segment, I also started my lap from Roehampton but didn't get matched. But I did get matched on the one that it has 19 mins for you on, which is clearly wrong. A purge needs to take place.

I always go by my Garmin for lap times, but in this instance they actually agreed. I find that in general Strava seems to gift you a few seconds on most RP lap segments.

dhope

BigMat wrote:

Its not like I just cruised through and happened to pick up the KOM, me and Ben Porter have been fighting for that one for a while and had reached the point where we were grazing the odd second. :?

That's reassuring
The Trinity Road KOM was a concerted effort on a clear road with a pootle from work, 3 laps of RP to warm the legs up, 5 gentle miles home and then burying it to get the KOM, then a pootle home. If you were just cruising through and picking up KOMs then I think I'd pick up my toys and go home :P

Origamist

@BigMat = The sub 1 min time up Denmark Hill seems reasonable to me. It's surprising how much time you can lose on a even a short gradient to a quick chap.

Try Swains lane in North London (longer and steeper than Denmark Hill) if you want to get an idea
of how much time you can lose to seriously fast guys - try 1m.26s as a benchmark.

Ben P's is handy on the hills (often riding fixed IIRC) - I'd guess he's comfortably sub-70kgs.

JamesFree

The thing about Denmark Hill segment it starts halfway up a 3-5% hill so hard to get a real decent run up on it, only passed through that segment once it would seem, will try and give it a go soon and see how close I can get, doubt I can get closer than 3-5 seconds though.

bigmat

Origamist wrote:

@BigMat = The sub 1 min time up Denmark Hill seems reasonable to me. It's surprising how much time you can lose on a even a short gradient to a quick chap.

Try Swains lane in North London (longer and steeper than Denmark Hill) if you want to get an idea
of how much time you can lose to seriously fast guys - try 1m.26s as a benchmark.

Ben P's is handy on the hills (often riding fixed IIRC) - I'd guess he's comfortably sub-70kgs.

Never met Ben (although I think I may have done a training ride with him without realising once) but he's 16 seconds down on the elite cat. Not sure what I can do to get his time reinstated - I still suspect its a bit too fast (the first section of that segment is 7/8% so a 30mph+ average is very quick) but happy to concede its possible.

JamesFree

BigMat wrote:

Origamist wrote:

@BigMat = The sub 1 min time up Denmark Hill seems reasonable to me. It's surprising how much time you can lose on a even a short gradient to a quick chap.

Try Swains lane in North London (longer and steeper than Denmark Hill) if you want to get an idea
of how much time you can lose to seriously fast guys - try 1m.26s as a benchmark.

Ben P's is handy on the hills (often riding fixed IIRC) - I'd guess he's comfortably sub-70kgs.

Never met Ben (although I think I may have done a training ride with him without realising once) but he's 16 seconds down on the elite cat. Not sure what I can do to get his time reinstated - I still suspect its a bit too fast (the first section of that segment is 7/8% so a 30mph+ average is very quick) but happy to concede its possible.

I thought they only removed flagged rides for good if the data looked dodgy (bad gps signal etc)

willy b

Origamist wrote:

Try Swains lane in North London (longer and steeper than Denmark Hill) if you want to get an idea
of how much time you can lose to seriously fast guys - try 1m.26s as a benchmark.

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Swains Lane is a favourite of mine!

A few segments up there:
http://app.strava.com/segments/620830
http://app.strava.com/segments/760505

1.26 is some time! I would like to meet the rider who did that!

okgo

I imagine Ed F would have a fair crack at that, just his kind of thing!

cyclingprop

ShandyH wrote:

cyclingprop wrote:

ShandyH wrote:

cyclingprop wrote:

ShandyH wrote:

Quite pleased with getting up to 21st on Millbank Southbound after waiting to get by a few cyclists at the beginning which probably cost me a few seconds. Not on the first page though which is distressing.

How do I join the SCR club online?

Should we get some kit made up? I think so. Targets a-go-go!

Come and join us on the first page

But Mr. cyclingprop, I can't see you on the first page. Did you mean join or replace? 10th overall tonight appears to have done the latter. Baddabing!

You can have that point. I'm 10 days post ankle op And not allowed back on the bike for another 3-5 weeks, do my retort will be some time in June I'm afraid.

Oh dear. That's not good. Hope the op went well. Speedy recovery. Look forward to the battle of Millbank South come June.

Ta. Not looking forward to the first week turning my legs being turbo only... gah.

Clever Pun

Talking of dodgy data

http://app.strava.com/segments/763895

I assume you need a garmin for this kind of time travel?

jzed

Ehh - two others seem to have matched my 930mph. I'm going to have to go faster.

mattcroad

OK peeps, I've gone and done it...

Created a new "club" on Strava for those that regularly commute along the always entertaining CS7. Take a look for "CS7 Cyclists" if want to see where you stack up against other commuters.

mr_ribble

Took a single second on JZed this morning.. http://app.strava.com/segments/758117. Nowhere near Keyser though

jzed

Now Ribble - is there anything you want to tell me about your effort?

mr_ribble

urmm.. I wasnt even trying and I still go faster than you.

jzed

Mr_Ribble wrote:

urmm.. I wasnt even trying and I still go faster than you.

I'll get it back

keyser__soze

He also did it on a pretty windless day too (at least it felt like it this morning), good effort.

mr_ribble

Keyser__Soze wrote:

He also did it on a pretty windless day too (at least it felt like it this morning), good effort.

kudos... why thank you sir

3dm4r

JZed wrote:

Ehh - two others seem to have matched my 930mph. I'm going to have to go faster.

Please don't, I'm proud of that one :-)

jzed

cjcp

Il Principe wrote:

okgo wrote:

Yeh, a few of the really quick times are Dynamo chaingangs.

Although its a bit weird, as you seemed to have been matched on that segment, I also started my lap from Roehampton but didn't get matched. But I did get matched on the one that it has 19 mins for you on, which is clearly wrong. A purge needs to take place.

I always go by my Garmin for lap times, but in this instance they actually agreed. I find that in general Strava seems to gift you a few seconds on most RP lap segments.

Agreed. Strava gifted me six seconds over one lap yesterday.