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Clever Pun

JZed wrote:

Mr_Ribble wrote:

Further proof of my belief that if JZed raced, he would rip a 4th cat field apart

Is this love JZed week

If it was I'd offer you my semi final ticket for next Saturday, but it isn't and I wont. So I'll just inform you I have a ticket...

Some very selfish police cars stopped me getting a pb last night...bastards, everyone pulled in and I had to stop, very frustrating. Still got a KOM on a newly attempted segment though

This morning was a complete write off.. awful

jzed

Clever Pun wrote:

If it was I'd offer you my semi final ticket for next Saturday, but it isn't and I wont. So I'll just inform you I have a ticket...

:twisted: Evil I tell thee, just plain Evil. I'm trying to source a couple of tickets but so far no joy.

Paul E

Felt good this morning, good speed for what felt like hardly any effort.

cyclingprop

JZed wrote:

I'll start the 3 lapper:

JZED - Clockwise - 56.30

Cycling prop - clockwise - 73.08

Not bad for a first attempt considering its on te wrong side of town, so a 3 lap run becomes a 45-50 mile afternoon

Paul E

cyclingprop wrote:

JZed wrote:

I'll start the 3 lapper:

JZED - Clockwise - 56.30

Cycling prop - clockwise - 73.08

Not bad for a first attempt considering its on te wrong side of town, so a 3 lap run becomes a 45-50 mile afternoon

Same here, other side of town, plenty of chances of getting lost (zero sense of direction) and it would leave me with not much proper oooomph left in my legs to give it a "good crack"

okgo

I am going to get in there and do it when I've got some time. Its quite a big effort I would imagine. I SHOULD be able to do 54 or quicker, Gareth managed it, and I did the same time as him round the 40 mile training route, but of course its all about the day I guess.

I think I did a good time on Physic garden eastbound yesterday, but haven't uploaded yet. But I just checked and the leading bloke did 34 mph avg along there apparently, so doubt it will be anywhere near that!

Anyone in the park tonight, think I'll do one hard lap from Roehampton gate at about 6.20?

ShandyH

Er, hang on. Your best lap is 20.35. How did you get from that to 54 mins? You can't go bragging about the fact you should be able to do 54mins before you've even given it a go.

keyser__soze

ShandyH, you haven't seen many of okgo's posts before, have you?

ShandyH

I have, hence my response. Bleeding 'eck! Go and bloody do it then!

cyclingprop

Keyser__Soze wrote:

ShandyH, you haven't seen many of okgo's posts before, have you?

+1

okgo

I don't do laps of the park if I can help it. Its dull. But in the interests of beating some of you lot, I'm up for it

I was going off the back of a mate of mine doing that time yesterday, and me and him having an almost identical time over a 41 mile loop in the surrey hills that we both did about two weeks ago in similar conditions. So its a fairly well qualified estimation.

ShandyH

TT style. Go and do it.

okgo

ShandyH wrote:

TT style. Go and do it.

I suppose I'll have to, got to back it up as you say.

It doesn't matter what gate you start from does it?

As an aside, is anyone entering the Richmond Park TT? I have, looks good fun...

edds

Mr_Ribble wrote:

What I think we need is some IT boffin to write some funkycodeyalgorithimthingy that scrawls through all of our strava uploads, and then based on some user defined variables, spits out "this months best overall rider", or "best sprinter" etc. etc etc SCR 2.0 innit

Have been thinking about this... looked it up and the API's to let you do it are all available. Might try and create a proof of concept over the bank holiday weekend. Something like the igmarkets proindex that uses a secret formular to give riders points. More points for more contested segments, points for beating your PB and such. Tweak the algorithm enough and I could even come out on top .

okgo

If you could make something like that, it would be very impressive. There are some clever people out there!!

cyclingprop

Agreed, that could be cool.

dhope

edds wrote:

Mr_Ribble wrote:

What I think we need is some IT boffin to write some funkycodeyalgorithimthingy that scrawls through all of our strava uploads, and then based on some user defined variables, spits out "this months best overall rider", or "best sprinter" etc. etc etc SCR 2.0 innit

Have been thinking about this... looked it up and the API's to let you do it are all available. Might try and create a proof of concept over the bank holiday weekend. Something like the igmarkets proindex that uses a secret formular to give riders points. More points for more contested segments, points for beating your PB and such. Tweak the algorithm enough and I could even come out on top .

Yep, seems doable. I had a look at the API a while back and was tempted to put together a page that showed the commonly used segments with this week's SCR top 3, so people didn't have to trawl it to post each time.
Tempted I say, I never got around to doing it.

roger_merriman

okgo wrote:

ShandyH wrote:

TT style. Go and do it.

I suppose I'll have to, got to back it up as you say.

It doesn't matter what gate you start from does it?

As an aside, is anyone entering the Richmond Park TT? I have, looks good fun...

as long as your timing it then where you start should make no differnce, if it's by strava a number of the segments are just broke.

last year I watched the TT the TT bikes make a nice woosh as ever, dunno about the timing but last year the gates where open before the TT had finished, which is a bit iffy. ie someone busting a gut down sawyers with delivery vans and locals having a quiet ride before the hoards of roadies apear.

All fine as long as nothing happens i guess!

bigmat

roger merriman wrote:

okgo wrote:

ShandyH wrote:

TT style. Go and do it.

I suppose I'll have to, got to back it up as you say.

It doesn't matter what gate you start from does it?

As an aside, is anyone entering the Richmond Park TT? I have, looks good fun...

as long as your timing it then where you start should make no differnce, if it's by strava a number of the segments are just broke.

last year I watched the TT the TT bikes make a nice woosh as ever, dunno about the timing but last year the gates where open before the TT had finished, which is a bit iffy. ie someone busting a gut down sawyers with delivery vans and locals having a quiet ride before the hoards of roadies apear.

All fine as long as nothing happens i guess!

Its a wide straight road, and the TT doesn't pretend to be on closed roads, so really you shouldn't have any issues. Traffic is usually very light anyway, a few pootling cyclists act as a nice rabbit to chase. I'm planning to give them a go again, I like the event but its such a hideously early start for me that I invariably arrive less than well prepared and don't quite get the time that I should - hopefully this year will be different!

JamesFree

What time are the gates opened and closed at Richmond Park or is it open 24/7 when there is no deer culling on ?

keyser__soze

dhope wrote:

Yep, seems doable. I had a look at the API a while back and was tempted to put together a page that showed the commonly used segments with this week's SCR top 3, so people didn't have to trawl it to post each time.
Tempted I say, I never got around to doing it.

Quick bit of lunchtime coding and I've got some JS working that will do exactly this - easier to make the client do the work. Will find somewhere to host this once I'm home. Unauthenticated REST/JSON services are so easy to work with

roger_merriman

JamesFree wrote:

What time are the gates opened and closed at Richmond Park or is it open 24/7 when there is no deer culling on ?

same as Bushy Park, main gates open dawn/dusk but the ped gates stay open.

okgo

Keyser__Soze wrote:

dhope wrote:

Yep, seems doable. I had a look at the API a while back and was tempted to put together a page that showed the commonly used segments with this week's SCR top 3, so people didn't have to trawl it to post each time.
Tempted I say, I never got around to doing it.

Quick bit of lunchtime coding and I've got some JS working that will do exactly this - easier to make the client do the work. Will find somewhere to host this once I'm home. Unauthenticated REST/JSON services are so easy to work with

Thank god for smart people!

mr_ribble

ShandyH wrote:

Er, hang on. Your best lap is 20.35. How did you get from that to 54 mins? You can't go bragging about the fact you should be able to do 54mins before you've even given it a go.

I did one lap in 13 minutes once, and I had this dood called David sucking my wheel the whole time. I wasnt even trying, I mean I was only cycling with one leg.

okgo

Mr_Ribble wrote:

ShandyH wrote:

Er, hang on. Your best lap is 20.35. How did you get from that to 54 mins? You can't go bragging about the fact you should be able to do 54mins before you've even given it a go.

I did one lap in 13 minutes once, and I had this dood called David sucking my wheel the whole time. I wasnt even trying, I mean I was only cycling with one leg.

I wish I'd seen that video!

Or even the actual video!

mr_ribble

okgo wrote:

Keyser__Soze wrote:

dhope wrote:

Yep, seems doable. I had a look at the API a while back and was tempted to put together a page that showed the commonly used segments with this week's SCR top 3, so people didn't have to trawl it to post each time.
Tempted I say, I never got around to doing it.

Quick bit of lunchtime coding and I've got some JS working that will do exactly this - easier to make the client do the work. Will find somewhere to host this once I'm home. Unauthenticated REST/JSON services are so easy to work with

Thank god for smart people!

I personally think the coefficient for sprinter's segments be positive and large, and for hilly segments negative and even bigger.

okgo

No idea what you're on about.

Just looking at that Richmond Park lap segment, if I come in at Roehampton, it looks like it won't match me as it starts down the road towards robin hood a few hundred feet! I don't understand what ones to trust. Think I'll just press lap on my garmin tbh, probably more reliable!

jzed

okgo wrote:

No idea what you're on about.

Just looking at that Richmond Park lap segment, if I come in at Roehampton, it looks like it won't match me as it starts down the road towards robin hood a few hundred feet! I don't understand what ones to trust. Think I'll just press lap on my garmin tbh, probably more reliable!

I hide most of the segments as they're rubbish. This is the most accurate one I've found which generally is within a second of my lap timer. (http://app.strava.com/rides/6154309#117200172)

mr_ribble

Let X be the rider's overal score, rebased on an index of 100, Y is the same riders strava time over the Pen Ponds to Ham Cross segment and Z the best time the rider has posted up Dark Hill.

We define X = aY +bZ

where a is the 'sprinters' coeffcient and b the "mountain goats" coefficient. These are user defined, and so you could have the simple form of a = b = 0.5, thereby putting equal weighting on the two different disciplines. Or, you could decide that climbing is more important and so make b > a. Or if I were doing it, I would have a >> b, or if that didnt make me top, (a >>> b) and (b < 0)

bigmat

JZed wrote:

okgo wrote:

No idea what you're on about.

Just looking at that Richmond Park lap segment, if I come in at Roehampton, it looks like it won't match me as it starts down the road towards robin hood a few hundred feet! I don't understand what ones to trust. Think I'll just press lap on my garmin tbh, probably more reliable!

I hide most of the segments as they're rubbish. This is the most accurate one I've found which generally is within a second of my lap timer. (http://app.strava.com/rides/6154309#117200172)

That's cool - I'd be 23rd on that segment with my PB, I'm guessing a lot of those faster times were in a group as well. I might just create my own segment if I ever get back there (another one? what the hell!) I usually start / stop at the sign outside the Roehampton Gate cafe - I usually come in at Roehampton gate but don't like finishing at the roundabout as I tend to have my head down and be in my own world of pain by that point!