The Canyon bikes thread

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  • adamfo
    adamfo Posts: 763
    This looks interesting, Nerve CF 29er full carbon prototype.
    Based on the 26er prices it will probably start at £2600

    PrototipoCanyonNerveCF291.jpg

    http://mtb29er.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/p ... l?spref=tw
  • Imperton
    Imperton Posts: 9
    Does it say on the Canyon Nerve frames in which country they are made?
  • Grovsie29
    Grovsie29 Posts: 116
    Hi guys. What is the Strive classed as? Is it burely enough to be a decent upgrade from a Giant Trance x4.

    Im getting more and more into hitting bigger drops and jumps, and don't wanna throw loads of cash at the Trance.

    The canyon strive AL 7.0 and 8.0 look like lovely bikes. Or should I be looking at the Torque Ex alpinist?
  • bennett_346
    bennett_346 Posts: 5,029
    Grovsie29 wrote:
    Hi guys. What is the Strive classed as?
    A mountain bike...

    What do you mean by burly enough to be an upgrade? Did you break your trance from riding it too hard?
  • Plyphon
    Plyphon Posts: 433
    Those seat stays on that 29er!!!
  • Grovsie29
    Grovsie29 Posts: 116
    Grovsie29 wrote:
    Hi guys. What is the Strive classed as?
    A mountain bike...

    What do you mean by burly enough to be an upgrade? Did you break your trance from riding it too hard?

    No, but from what im hearing it's not meant to take the abuse and I wanna get more into free-riding and stuff, as well as trail centers.

    maybe I should just carry on with the Trance. The suspension isn't great. Im not worried about the frame, more the wheels/tyres and suspension.
  • mcnultycop
    mcnultycop Posts: 2,143
    Plyphon wrote:
    Those seat stays on that 29er!!!
    Exactly what caught my eye.
  • raldat
    raldat Posts: 242
    edited April 2013
    What is with Canyon's insane lead times? I was about to order a Grand Canyon AL 6.0 26er but just saw a 10 week wait on my size (med) and sold out on the small plus longer on others.

    Not really keen to order now. Anyone low of any other alternatives since Canyon seem have lost the plot? I am attracted by the great value, but if they can't deliver in a reasonable time then it is not value at all.
  • adamfo
    adamfo Posts: 763
    Imperton wrote:
    Does it say on the Canyon Nerve frames in which country they are made?

    I'll tell you tomorrow, UPS are due to deliver a new nerve AL 7.9 to me.

    I expect the alloy frames are made in Taiwan.

    My £1350 Cannondale super six 105 carbon bike was also from Taiwan but the carbon forks say made in China on them. At these sort of price points that's what you get.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    edited April 2013
    raldat wrote:
    What is with Canyon's insane lead times? I was about to order a Grand Canyon AL 6.0 26er but just saw a 10 week wait on my size (med) and sold out on the small plus longer on others.

    Not really keen to order now. Anyone low of any other alternatives since Canyon seem have lost the plot? I am attracted by the great value, but if they can't deliver in a reasonable time then it is not value at all.

    GOOD GOD MAN!!! How dare they be popular! WT actual Flip!!!

    Where do you think the value comes from? An altruistic desire to supply bikers with cheap bikes?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • raldat
    raldat Posts: 242
    edited April 2013
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    They
    are
    cheap
    becasue
    of
    things
    like
    this

    Genuine assistance - If you want 5 star service, go to the LBS and pay for it. Simples. Give one of these brands a try - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bi ... _companies
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • raldat
    raldat Posts: 242
    edited April 2013
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    No prob, glad to be of assistance
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • raldat
    raldat Posts: 242
    edited April 2013
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Hooooo sigh

    Rose or on-one - they have the same problems though, Rose bikes are generally not as well designed (which is obviously down to personal taste) and on-one has nothing like the range in spec options that Canyon does.

    I reiterate. The bikes take a long time because Canyon are incredibly popular (worldwide now) and they a re cheap because canyon provide a much lower level of service. I challenge you to start a thread about another bike brand that will run for 46 pages

    To paraphrase Keith Bontrager - Cheap bikes, Good bikes, Excellent Service - pick 2
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • raldat
    raldat Posts: 242
    edited April 2013
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    E-mail them, I'm sure that has never crossed their minds...

    Suck it up like the rest of us, ride the old one into the ground and plan where youre going to ride the new one
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • mcnultycop
    mcnultycop Posts: 2,143
    ddraver wrote:

    To paraphrase Keith Bontrager - Cheap bikes, Good bikes, Excellent Service - pick 2

    I got all 3.
  • AbsonWRX
    AbsonWRX Posts: 4
    Grovsie29 wrote:
    Hi guys. What is the Strive classed as? Is it burely enough to be a decent upgrade from a Giant Trance x4.

    Im getting more and more into hitting bigger drops and jumps, and don't wanna throw loads of cash at the Trance.

    The canyon strive AL 7.0 and 8.0 look like lovely bikes. Or should I be looking at the Torque Ex alpinist?
    Hi Grovsie, I had to decide between the Strive and the Torque EX. I went for the Torque EX Alpinist in the end because I wanted to get into doing bigger drops and jumps. Very happy with my decision of going for the Torque, super smooth over rough sections and still pedals and climbs very efficiently, so much so that I'm running it on a 1x10 gear setup.
  • ali4390
    ali4390 Posts: 106
    I've been considering a Canyon for some time now, the only problem is I can't decide which model to go for.

    I would love a Nerva AL+ (probably an 8), but I don't think I need that much bike for the riding I do, which is primarily trail centres and out and about in the peak district.

    The other option would be the Nerve AL, which is probably all the bike I need and more affordable, but something keeps dragging me back to the Nerve AL+.

    Considering I'll be coming from a £300 Carerra, I probably shouldn't be too picky as the bike will most likely be better than I am anyway.

    Hmmm, decisions decisions...
  • tudj
    tudj Posts: 254
    I was in exactly the same position as you are and I eventually went with the AL+ and I'm so glad I did. My riding has come on leaps and bounds since I got the bike, purely because it's given me the confidence to ride down anything.

    I'd say it depends where you think your riding may go. If you intend to stay at the level you are at then the AL is probably enough, if you have visions of riding tougher stuff then the AL+ should be considered. People kept telling me that the 150mm isn't necessary for anything in the UK but I'd like to disagree with them, I've ridden things on mine that I wouldn't be able to ride as hard/fast on a 120 bike (that's probably down to my riding, not the bike) and therefore not enjoy as much.

    One thing I would say is don't worry about the extra weight of the AL+ over the AL too much, even though it is heavier it is still lighter than most other AM bikes I've compared it to and it climbs like a beast. Another factor that swung my decision was that the AL+ comes with a reverb, the AL doesn't, if you were to add one to the AL then your total spend comes close to that of the AL+ anyway (or at least did when I got mine at the end of last year).

    If you can try to demo something similar (length of travel) to get a feel if you haven't ridden a full-suss before.
  • Shackster
    Shackster Posts: 257
    tudj wrote:
    I was in exactly the same position as you are and I eventually went with the AL+ and I'm so glad I did. My riding has come on leaps and bounds since I got the bike, purely because it's given me the confidence to ride down anything.

    I'd say it depends where you think your riding may go. If you intend to stay at the level you are at then the AL is probably enough, if you have visions of riding tougher stuff then the AL+ should be considered. People kept telling me that the 150mm isn't necessary for anything in the UK but I'd like to disagree with them, I've ridden things on mine that I wouldn't be able to ride as hard/fast on a 120 bike (that's probably down to my riding, not the bike) and therefore not enjoy as much.

    One thing I would say is don't worry about the extra weight of the AL+ over the AL too much, even though it is heavier it is still lighter than most other AM bikes I've compared it to and it climbs like a beast. Another factor that swung my decision was that the AL+ comes with a reverb, the AL doesn't, if you were to add one to the AL then your total spend comes close to that of the AL+ anyway (or at least did when I got mine at the end of last year).

    If you can try to demo something similar (length of travel) to get a feel if you haven't ridden a full-suss before.

    Speaking as someone who bought a Nerve AL (XC at the time) and kind of wishes they'd bought the AL+ (AM) I can agree with this (now lusting after a mojo HD, but that's unlikely to happen anytime soon :cry: ). I've spent a rather large amount on mine, attempting to convert it to somewhere in between the XC and AM genres (I like to call it "All Country" or "Cross-Mountain"! Always room for another genre :lol:)

    I've added a dropper post, tougher wheels (having seriously dinged the original DT rims), shorter stem and converted to double & bash with a blackspire stinger. Have also thought about a head-angle reducing headset but decided that my various over-the-bar incidents are, in fact, my fault and not the bike's :oops: .

    Having said all that of course, it's up to you to decide for the type of riding you do; maybe not even that so much as how hard/fast you want to ride it, as the AL will probably be able to get down anything that the AL+ can.
    2011 Canyon XC 8.0 (Monza Race Red)
    1996(?) dyna-tech titanium HT; pace RC-35's; Hope Ti Hubs etc etc
    Bianchi Road Bike
  • ali4390
    ali4390 Posts: 106
    Thanks for the helpful replies!

    I think one of the reasons the AL+ appeals more than the AL is that it gives me something to grow into so to speak, i.e. will I end up wishing I had gone for an AL+ 6 months down the line.

    It then becomes a decision about which version of the AL+ to go for, the 9.0SL is porn but too expensive and far too good for what I will use it for. A 7.0 is probably the one to go for but it the 8.0 looks better and again, covers me for the next couple of years should I choose to upgrade.
  • benjrush
    benjrush Posts: 35
    Kinda in the same boat too. I bought the AL and now wish I'd gone for more travel. However, the AL is SO MUCH better than my old ridgeback goodfella (bought in 1998 when I was 13) that it doesn't matter that much.

    On the upgrade front. With Canyon's, usually the price difference between the bikes is much less than the cost of upgrading between them in the future. i.e. buy the most pimped one you can afford at the time.
  • b45her
    b45her Posts: 147
    i've never ever understood the whole "120mm is all you need in the UK" thing, i ride a 160mm strive for everything from all day xc rides to uplift days at antur stiniog. but then again ive been riding long enough to see through all the bullshit that mags and websites spout when they review bikes.
    ribble sportive for the black stuff

    Canyon Strive AL 8.0 for the brown and green stuff.
  • adamfo
    adamfo Posts: 763
    Just assembled it. The website said 3 week delivery on the 7.9 and that's what happened. Credit card charged the day before dispatch at the price when ordered £1619.

    Came well packed, no marks or damage.

    Just had a quick spin around the garden and it feels lighter and better balanced than my old 29er hardtail.

    The frame is stealth reverb ready although I'm 52 so don't go in for hardcore downhill !

    I'm 5' 10 1/2 and went for the size large which fits just like a 2013 Zesty 314 large.

    The paint is satin finish not gloss which gives the bike a military functional look. Suits a MB well I think.

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  • tudj
    tudj Posts: 254
    b45her wrote:
    i've never ever understood the whole "120mm is all you need in the UK" thing, i ride a 160mm strive for everything from all day xc rides to uplift days at antur stiniog. but then again ive been riding long enough to see through all the bullshit that mags and websites spout when they review bikes.

    I kinda wish I'd gone for a Strive now, at the time I bought my bike (October) I'd only been riding for around 2 months, since that time I've gone from riding very tame offroad/bridleways to full on AM riding, the AL+ is plenty of bike for that but as I'm just starting to venture into a bit of freeride and downhill as well the Strive would have been a nice compromise, instead I find myself looking at the prospect of getting a DH bike more and more everyday now!

    If I do go down that route I'll be considering a Canyon FRX, I'm happy with the service and the value is just too good to ignore in my opinion.

    Does anyone know where I can sell a kidney? :P
  • Dear All,

    Im moving forward from my 140mm days and on the brink of heading for a 160mm + bike.

    Will the Canyon Torque be the right bike for me. I really want a bike that will be fine for the ups at all the uk trail centres but can still handle the downs that the Alps can throw at it.

    Appreciate any feedback from owners of Torques ex trail flow/gapstar bikes.

    I have the money waiting just umming and arring!!

    Cheers

    T
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Just pressed go on mine! :D

    Luckily I have to spend another month on the desert so hopefully the wait won't be so painful!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver