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  • jonny_trousers
    jonny_trousers Posts: 3,588
    st68 wrote:
    been riding mine for 3 months campag centaur mavic open pro wheels 32 spokes colombus forks built as a winter hack with 97 centaur campag groupset and spare pair of wheels i had kicking about in my garage it rides so nice i havent rode my pinarello since building its a lovely bike

    Sounds lovely. Pics please.
  • gww
    gww Posts: 1
    Well this certainly seems to be the place for equilibrium info - most of my research so far has seemed to link back to this thread! I have my finger ready to buy one (don't tell whichever jobsworth manages my bank account), but have a few questions first...
    A few people above have suggested that there is enough clearance for mudguards and 28c tyres, but then elsewhere on the internet people seem to think 25s are the maximum. Has anyone tried and succeeded? And would 28s even be necessary? I'm looking at long-distance light touring...
    Has anyone ridden one with any amount of luggage above a small saddlebag? I would probably be looking at a good sized saddlebag and perhaps a barbag setup, as I plan to cycle from the Midlands to Barcelona very soon. Has anyone done any touring similar to that? I have a feeling I may have to get a "proper" tourer and plod along a bit, despite fancying the equilibrium.. Has anyone perhaps done a lejog on one with a spot of luggage?
    A few people have said they've had success with racks - have you carried much luggage them? If so, how did the bike perform? And did you wish you were perhaps on a more classic tourer at the time?
    If anyone has an "off the peg" model (i don't have the time or the skill to build up my own, sadly), how have you found the wheels, given that I plan on cycling through to Spain?
    Cheers
  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    Yes mine has 28mm gatorskins and sks cromoplastic mudguards tight but 100% fine. the requirement for 28s or not should depend on your weight, anything over 100kgs and I would use 28s. Not done any serious touring on mine but have done a few 100k rides including two on consecutive days and it is very comfy bike. However the stock wheels are not exactly touring wheels, I would consider upgrading them for you Spanish ride to something stronger.
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    Chris

    Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5
  • samsbike
    samsbike Posts: 942
    Hi, does anyone know why my gears maybe slipping in high gears? The cogs all look good as does the chain. Also what collar size do I need to fit a quick release on the seat tube to fit a quick release.

    Thanks

    Sam
  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    samsbike wrote:
    Hi, does anyone know why my gears maybe slipping in high gears? The cogs all look good as does the chain. Also what collar size do I need to fit a quick release on the seat tube to fit a quick release.

    Thanks

    Sam

    Gear cable stretch? Try a quarter turn on the rear mech.
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    Chris

    Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5
  • samsbike
    samsbike Posts: 942
    Being thick what should I be turning?
  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    It's called a barrel adjuster, it's the bit that's at the end of the cable where it goes into the rear mech. Unscrew it a bit to make changing into a bigger cog easier, and screw it in to make changing into a smaller cog easier.
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  • samsbike
    samsbike Posts: 942
    Thanks, it changes fine, its going up hills and it starts slipping that's the problem
  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    Can show those symptoms if the cable has stretched, if the shifting is slightly off, putting more power through the drivetrain can cause it to shift and shift-back in one annoying motion. Other than that I would say that your chain has worn out, possibly your cassette too if it's only in some gears. How many miles since you changed them?
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  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    Unless wiggle have sent you a bike with second hand components, it will be cable stretch. Try the barrel adjustor tip.
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  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    Sheldon is your friend under "indexing Adjustment" http://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment.html#rear
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    Chris

    Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5
  • woodnut
    woodnut Posts: 562
    After hemming and hawing for a long time, I'm about ready to push the button and buy a frame & fork....but I'm worried about sizing now, 5'6 with 29" inside leg I would have gone for 52 frame, but thinking maybe a 54?? any other short Equilibrium owners can help?
    Genesis I
    Genesis II
    Planet X
  • Santa cruzing
    Santa cruzing Posts: 157
    I'm an inch or two taller and 29 inside leg. I have gone with the 52. The top tube is a little over 52 (537mm IIRC)

    I run short/shallow bars and a 90mm stem for a fairly relaxed position - could prob go 100 comfortably or 110/120 to get more racey with out destroying the handling.

    The bike definately doesn't feel too small

    If you are unsure would suggest getting a test ride if you can.
    AKA Captain Blackbeard
    Going Top to Bottom - E2E for Everyman and Headway - Spet 2013
  • woodnut
    woodnut Posts: 562
    ^^^
    Thanks, I was fairly sure 52 would be good ( my current bike is a 52 ), if you are a bit taller than me I'm sure 52 will be great ....(reaches for credit card)
    Genesis I
    Genesis II
    Planet X
  • Santa cruzing
    Santa cruzing Posts: 157
    doooo iiiiitttt!
    AKA Captain Blackbeard
    Going Top to Bottom - E2E for Everyman and Headway - Spet 2013
  • thegibdog
    thegibdog Posts: 2,106
    gww wrote:
    Has anyone ridden one with any amount of luggage above a small saddlebag? I would probably be looking at a good sized saddlebag and perhaps a barbag setup, as I plan to cycle from the Midlands to Barcelona very soon. Has anyone done any touring similar to that? I have a feeling I may have to get a "proper" tourer and plod along a bit, despite fancying the equilibrium.. Has anyone perhaps done a lejog on one with a spot of luggage?
    A few people have said they've had success with racks - have you carried much luggage them? If so, how did the bike perform? And did you wish you were perhaps on a more classic tourer at the time?
    Currently doing my LEJoG on one with a Tortec Ultralite rack fixed using p-clips and B'Twin City 2x 9 litre panniers, no problems at all so far.
    https://gibworth.mypixieset.com
  • samsbike
    samsbike Posts: 942
    My drivetrain is fubared. Cassette, chainrings and chain all knackered. So much for a ebay bargain sigh.

    As I will have to buy new and I am a bit new at this, what should I be getting i.e. sizes etc?

    thanks
  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    samsbike wrote:
    My drivetrain is fubared. Cassette, chainrings and chain all knackered. So much for a ebay bargain sigh.

    As I will have to buy new and I am a bit new at this, what should I be getting i.e. sizes etc?

    thanks

    I'd be surprised if the chainrings are gone, mine last for ages. As for the chain and cassette, how many cogs does your bike have at the back? 9 or 10?
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  • samsbike
    samsbike Posts: 942
    Its 9 speed and apparently the prevoius person used it in all weathers adn just did not take care of it
  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    samsbike wrote:
    Its 9 speed and apparently the prevoius person used it in all weathers adn just did not take care of it

    I'd go with the following:

    http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-t ... HIMCASS905

    http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-t ... 0000000000

    I assume you have the necessary tools?
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  • styxd
    styxd Posts: 3,234
    Id get a 105 cassette, try ebay as they are often cheaper on there than from a proper shop.

    As for a chain, KMC for sure. They come with a split link so are very easy to fit/refit.
  • woodnut
    woodnut Posts: 562
    Gutted, was going to buy a frame & fork set to save me some faff, UK Bikes Depot have no stock and no idea when they'll get them back in :(
    Genesis I
    Genesis II
    Planet X
  • Pessable
    Pessable Posts: 32
    My Equilibrium 20 has the original Tektro brakes. To be honest I've been meaning to improve the brake performance for ages but because I haven't used it that much over the Winter I haven't got around to it. I see the idea of changing the pads mentioned and also a nuclear option of replacing the whole assembly with Shimano R650's.

    Firstly, which option do most Equilibrium riders recommend? Am I going to see much difference in stopping ability?

    Secondly, I see the term "deep drop" used. What does this mean, and how can I make sure I order the right parts (whole brakes or just pads)?

    I'm on the big-boned side, so I feel I ought to have better braking ability than I have at the moment!

    PS Of course any new pads have to be that red.
  • fossala
    fossala Posts: 122
    Didn't get my refund from the bloke in time (bloody annoying!). So I spent 120 quid more and got a new one in black (equilibrium 10). Just got back from my first ride on it. It seems a little bit more heavy than I was hoping for. Where would be the best place to start to get the weight down?
  • samsbike
    samsbike Posts: 942
    Wheels, stem seatpost is probably where I would start
  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    Wheels and tyres and you'll see the most difference.
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  • fossala
    fossala Posts: 122
    How much weight would I be saving upgrading the seat post and wheels? I love the bike, it feels great. Just wish it was a little bit lighter.
  • woodnut
    woodnut Posts: 562
    Well, somehow or other I've ended up with a new 20 (whole bike as I was struggling to find a frame & fork)...just been out for a short spin, amazingly comfortable, looking forward to the ride to work tomorrow :D
    Genesis I
    Genesis II
    Planet X
  • the_fuggler
    the_fuggler Posts: 1,228
    Good man - pictures will obviously be required in due course!
    FCN 3 / 4
  • jonny_trousers
    jonny_trousers Posts: 3,588
    woodnut wrote:
    Well, somehow or other I've ended up with a new 20 (whole bike as I was struggling to find a frame & fork)...just been out for a short spin, amazingly comfortable, looking forward to the ride to work tomorrow :D

    Congratulations and welcome to the club! Now to to spend your money upgrading it!

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