Ricco hospitalised

afx237vi

It seems odd that the doctor has spoken so freely about what Ricco supposedly told him. Do they not have patient confidentiality laws in Italy or what?

frenchfighter

Wow, if true that is farcical. Really quite unbelievable. I will wait to cast judgement (aren't Dr's meant to have patient confidentiality) but that is not good when related to Aldo Sassi. Seriously I am quite speechless. Especially as whytf do you do this at this time of the season....

frenchfighter

If true, I think he needs some serious sort of support. I don't think it will end happily.

calvjones

And to think, I castigated myself for thinking 'doping related' when I first read the story.

Pokerface

For those of us who don't speak Italian, can someone summarize?

Auto blood transfusion is it?

Gazzaputt

Pokerface wrote:

For those of us who don't speak Italian, can someone summarize?

Auto blood transfusion is it?

Seems the idiot put blood into himself that had been stored in his fridge incorrectly.

If true he's lucky not to be dead.

Gypsum_Fantastic

Bash it through Google translate

http://translate.google.com/#

It doesn't make pretty reading

Pokerface

It's on Cycling News.

Says he admitted it in front of doctor and g/f (not wife).

Does the prescence of the extra person waive confidentiality?

RichN95.

Pokerface wrote:

For those of us who don't speak Italian, can someone summarize?

Auto blood transfusion is it?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/italian-police-investigate-ricco-for-blood-doping

DaveyL

Jeez, bloody grim. He does need an intervention if this is true.

Why would someone attempt a transfusion at this time of year? Was he just practising?

dave_1

amazing. To be fair he didn't exactly talk reformed or even seem apologetic. He needs kept away from all sport and any position of trust in any walk of life

blazing_saddles

If he was prepared to do that, to fly up Mont Faron in the T de Med,
what price the Giro?
This worries me on a whole lot of levels.

Tusher

If this is true,as it seems to be, how could Ricco do this to Aldo Sassi?

I hope he lives to grow older.

iainf72

I can't understand why you'd do this in Feb. Unless it's required to keep passports in check.

northernneil

Kidney Failure = blood transfusion from wrongly marked bag

silly silly boy

Tusher

Suspect it has to do with the passport. Can't think of another reason.

dave_1

northernneil wrote:

Kidney Failure = blood transfusion from wrongly marked bag

silly silly boy

wrongly marked bag??
do you maybe he transfused another person's blood? teamwork???

northernneil

Dave_1 wrote:

northernneil wrote:

Kidney Failure = blood transfusion from wrongly marked bag

silly silly boy

wrongly marked bag??
do you maybe he transfused another person's blood? teamwork???

me ???

no he is working alone .... and no one else is involved, Di Luca told me so

rick_chasey

iainf72 wrote:

I can't understand why you'd do this in Feb. Unless it's required to keep passports in check.

Why not do it all year round?

Assuming you're doing it correctly, obviously.

andyp

We don't know he had kidney failure, that's a line attributed to his father who may have come up with that as a line to give the press to stop them speculating as to why he'd been suddenly admitted to hospital.

LangerDan

afx237vi wrote:

It seems odd that the doctor has spoken so freely about what Ricco supposedly told him. Do they not have patient confidentiality laws in Italy or what?

As doping is a criminal offence in Italy, perhaps the doctor was obliged to advise the authorities and the release of the report came from the police rather than the doctor?

nickwill

Sad on all levels.
All the talk of wanting to do things properly down the drain. The trust of the late Aldo Sassi treated with contempt, and a young life put at risk for something which in the grand scheme of things is only an unimportant game.
He needs help, and he needs to be kept away from the sport.
I hope he recovers and lives to reflect on what he has done.

secretsqirrel

northernneil wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

northernneil wrote:

Kidney Failure = blood transfusion from wrongly marked bag

silly silly boy

wrongly marked bag??
do you maybe he transfused another person's blood? teamwork???

me ???

no he is working alone .... and no one else is involved, Di Luca told me so

I understand it to be autologuous (his own).

This really is the dark side of the sport I love surfacing. I find it disturbing.

wicked

Nickwill wrote:

Sad on all levels.
All the talk of wanting to do things properly down the drain. The trust of the late Aldo Sassi treated with contempt, and a young life put at risk for something which in the grand scheme of things is only an unimportant game.
He needs help, and he needs to be kept away from the sport.
I hope he recovers and lives to reflect on what he has done.

I do not wish to speak ill of the dead but you are assuming that Sassi had nothing to do with doping. How can you be sure of this? Because he said so? We can't know, sadly.

rick_chasey

Nickwill wrote:

Sad on all levels.
All the talk of wanting to do things properly down the drain. The trust of the late Aldo Sassi treated with contempt, and a young life put at risk for something which in the grand scheme of things is only an unimportant game.
.

Don't get me wrong, but all this hagiographical rhetoric about Sassi and his 'trust' being broken just because he died recently doesn't sit well with me.

He gambled on Ricco to be clean, turns out, after he died, Ricco isn't clean. He's just not around to see it.

This 'break' of trust is not any worse because Sassi is now dead.

I don't think that Sassi's trust is the issue here at all. All it shows is that Ricco talks a good game - enough to dupe Sassi - but doesn't play one.

FransJacques

Bad blood screws people up. Remember Jesus Manzano's story while he was on Kleme of an episode where he got a) someone else's blood, or b) his own that was badly stored.

He had hot and cold flashes, headache, tunnel vision, etc which eventually got so bad he pulled out of the race even tho the so-called Dr told him to continue.

Whoever thinks there should be an immunity on doping is ignoring the malpractice by so-called team Drs.

andyp

FransJacques wrote:

Bad blood screws people up. Remember Jesus Manzano's story while he was on Kleme of an episode where he got a) someone else's blood, or b) his own that was badly stored.

He had hot and cold flashes, headache, tunnel vision, etc which eventually got so bad he pulled out of the race even tho the so-called Dr told him to continue.

The Manzano incident wasn't caused by use of either someone else's blood or his own, instead it was the alleged use of Oxyglobin, a drug used to treat anemia in dogs.

dave_1

andyp wrote:

FransJacques wrote:

Bad blood screws people up. Remember Jesus Manzano's story while he was on Kleme of an episode where he got a) someone else's blood, or b) his own that was badly stored.

He had hot and cold flashes, headache, tunnel vision, etc which eventually got so bad he pulled out of the race even tho the so-called Dr told him to continue.

The Manzano incident wasn't caused by use of either someone else's blood or his own, instead it was the alleged use of Oxyglobin, a drug used to treat anemia in dogs.

that's right but i think when he left the sport he outlined how a Kelme doc or helper was involved/negligent when a transfusion went wrong and Manzano got left on his own with it

rick_chasey

Dave_1 wrote:

andyp wrote:

FransJacques wrote:

Bad blood screws people up. Remember Jesus Manzano's story while he was on Kleme of an episode where he got a) someone else's blood, or b) his own that was badly stored.

He had hot and cold flashes, headache, tunnel vision, etc which eventually got so bad he pulled out of the race even tho the so-called Dr told him to continue.

The Manzano incident wasn't caused by use of either someone else's blood or his own, instead it was the alleged use of Oxyglobin, a drug used to treat anemia in dogs.

that's right but i think when he left the sport he outlined how a Kelme doc or helper was involved/negligent when a transfusion went wrong and Manzano got left on his own with it

Frightening!

mrushton

Don't worry. A large fine to the UCI and he'll be on the cover of all the mags saying how Sassi appeared to him in a vision and now he (Ricco) will train only on mineral water and grissini and can he have a new contract please?