Floyd -- he wrote us a letter...

RichN95.

iainf72 wrote:

Kléber wrote:

I'm with Dennis. There's no doping in cycling. Guys like Manzano, Simeoni, Kohl, Chiotti, Bassons, Jaksche and all the rest are just trying to drum up advance PR for their books.

Good shout K.

How many of them wrote books?

Bassons did. But that's not particularly relevant here.

RichN95.

Timoid. wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

While much has been said on here about what FL has written, and all the people his implicated, including almost every major US cyclist at USP, there's one person who doesn't get mentioned in the e-mail.

A former US Postal teammate of FL's and a Girona resident - Christian Vande Velde

Maybe he's been clean all along.

But VdV was left out in the cold by Armstrong after 99. Landis may not have had too much contact with him. His team history would indicate a high probability that he has not been straight all his career.

I do think that he's clean now though.

I just found it notable that he was only one of that USP/Girona crowd that he didn't mention (Hamilton was at CSC by then)

FransJacques

10:55 PDT
The peloton is on a dead-straight, completely flat and wide-open stretch of road for approximately the next four miles.

10:56 PDT
We have a crash! Lance Armstrong (RadioShack) is down along with riders from HTC-Columbia, BMC Racing, Fly V Australia and Rabobank.

Medical assistance has been requested for Armstrong.
(the above is from cyclingnews.com)

Perfectly straight road. Maybe Lance was riding beside Morgan Tsvangirai's car. A script writer could barely do better.

moray_gub

DaveyL wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

If there is no official come-uppance from this then maybe the fans need to be more pro-active in making a huge uproar.

Funniest thing I've read for years.

The human weather-vane does it again.

the human weather vane hahahaha .........brilliant.

RichN95.

FransJacques wrote:

Perfectly straight road. Maybe Lance was riding beside Morgan Tsvangirai's car. A script writer could barely do better.

Isn't he Robert Mugabe's nemesis?

andyp

I reckon divine intervention caused the crash.

AidanR

FransJacques wrote:

10:55 PDT
The peloton is on a dead-straight, completely flat and wide-open stretch of road for approximately the next four miles.

10:56 PDT
We have a crash! Lance Armstrong (RadioShack) is down along with riders from HTC-Columbia, BMC Racing, Fly V Australia and Rabobank.

Medical assistance has been requested for Armstrong.
(the above is from cyclingnews.com)

Perfectly straight road. Maybe Lance was riding beside Morgan Tsvangirai's car. A script writer could barely do better.

Armstrong conveniently out of the TdF? I see a script writer's hand in that!

dennisn

andyp wrote:

I reckon divine intervention caused the crash.

I vote for the ash cloud being responsible.

gabriel959

you've got to say cycling offers far more than other sports in this kind of thing!!!!

AidanR

11:16 PDT

After getting treatment at the race caravan's medical vehicle, Lance Armstrong (RadioShack) has now returned to the peloton.

God is feeling merciful today.

blazing_saddles

A whole lot of book chat.


Buy your advance copy, now!

iainf72

AidanR wrote:

God is feeling merciful today.

Nah, he's on his way to hospital

moray_gub

FransJacques wrote:

10:55 PDT
The peloton is on a dead-straight, completely flat and wide-open stretch of road for approximately the next four miles.

10:56 PDT
We have a crash! Lance Armstrong (RadioShack) is down along with riders from HTC-Columbia, BMC Racing, Fly V Australia and Rabobank.

Medical assistance has been requested for Armstrong.
(the above is from cyclingnews.com)

Perfectly straight road. Maybe Lance was riding beside Morgan Tsvangirai's car. A script writer could barely do better.

Do cyclists not crash on straight roads then ?

iainf72

Moray Gub wrote:

Do cyclists not crash on straight roads then ?

If they wear blue and black, they do it a lot.

moray_gub

iainf72 wrote:

paulcuthbert wrote:

Typical of BikingBernie to turn this into ANOTHER thread about doping

*yawns*

Ummm, old bean, it started off as a thread about doping.

Now, if you'd said BB had posted that boring graph again you'd be onto something

Or continued his rampant anti americanism

AidanR

iainf72 wrote:

AidanR wrote:

God is feeling merciful today.

Nah, he's on his way to hospital

Seems we're back to the script then...

Bakunin

Timoid. wrote:

To be fair not everything Floyd says should be taken as gospel. Unless he's got some proof, Armstrong et al need not worry about official sanction.

What it will do to Armstrong's image in America is another matter though.

I also have a problem with the fact that many riders who have cleaned up their act (DaveZ, Michael Barry) and are doing things the right way and ushering in a bright(er) future for the sport are now going to go down with the unrepentant cheats (in the public eyes at least). JVs policy of education and clean improvement may be completely derailed by this.

This may be the moment of truth for JV and Garmin.

If JV stands for a clean sport -- he may have to get his hands dirty right now and tell us what he knows.

To paraphrase Lenin, a "dual power" situation can only last for a short period of time, the cheats must be toppled. The existence/success of Garmin is not enough, JV has to call the Texas Cowboy out.

JV should come out and tell the truth, as should DZ.

donrhummy

REALLY interesting:

Lance says Floyd has been sending him text messages over the last few years alluding to these emails and makign them public!

Wow, very interesting. I wonder if Floyd was basically trying to shake him down for a job?

bexley5200

nearly july,here we go again.

deal

"Medical assistance has been requested for Armstrong"

:shock:

emadden

Blazing Saddles wrote:

A whole lot of book chat.


Buy your advance copy, now!

http://img208.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13717_Lance_Book_02_122_596lo.jpg

rundle

Armstrong will likely never be seen racing a bicycle again. Ever.

Anywhere.

Most certainly not in France.

gabriel959

This opinion article in one of the major spanish papers is worth reading...

http://www.elmundo.es/blogs/deportes/es ... ta-de.html

iainf72

An old fave

BikingBernie

dennisn wrote:

I thought we were talking about doping in cycling and, well, what going to happen next?

And I was just trying to discover whether your claim that you demand a higher level of PROOF before you believe something than I apparently do is true or just empty rhetoric.

donrhummy

rundle wrote:

Armstrong will likely never be seen racing a bicycle again. Ever.

Anywhere.

Most certainly not in France.

If you think that, you haven't followed cycling and Lance Armstrong in the past 10 years.

emadden

Freakin' hell.... I love it.... As much as I hated Flandis for what he did for the sport, I am pleased he has done this.

I always thought he was a dumb oaf caught in a sh*tty system... From the moment he turned up to the post TdF press conference after his positive with his cap on backwards, it was so clear that he had cocked up and was out of his league...

But now that he is in the process of spilling the beans on the person that Kimmage famously called the "cancer in the sport", and others, I can forgive Flandis... Yes, the sport is now in the John Crapper, but I will take solace if some of the scum will now be exposed for the hypocritical pr*cks that they are.

calvjones

bexley5200 wrote:

nearly july,here we go again.

Um... have a look at a calendar.

AidanR

Lance post-crash



He got back on the bike for 10 mins then abandoned. But looking at the road rash it seems like he landed squarely on his side. Not really likely to have broken a bone from that. It'll be interesting to see what the hospital are told to say. I mean what the hospital says.

Doobz

hmm..