Floyd -- he wrote us a letter...

iainf72

cycling5280 wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

cycling5280 wrote:

For years Floyd lied, paraded around the U.S. claiming his innocence at bike shops taking donations for his defense and wrote a book full of lies.

I believe him now....not.

Was he lying first time round or second?

One version should be the truth, no?

I think most people just don't care what he has to say any more. He lost all credibility years ago.

Well, people like Michael Ashenden say Floyd helped them with the missing piece of the puzzles in blood doping, so a lot of people do care what he has to say.

So what you're saying is you know he's telling the truth but it's not a version of the truth you like?

cycling5280

iainf72 wrote:

cycling5280 wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

cycling5280 wrote:

For years Floyd lied, paraded around the U.S. claiming his innocence at bike shops taking donations for his defense and wrote a book full of lies.

I believe him now....not.

Was he lying first time round or second?

One version should be the truth, no?

I think most people just don't care what he has to say any more. He lost all credibility years ago.

Well, people like Michael Ashenden say Floyd helped them with the missing piece of the puzzles in blood doping, so a lot of people do care what he has to say.

So what you're saying is you know he's telling the truth but it's not a version of the truth you like?

Like I said his past actions for years and his lies have given him no credibility.

iainf72

cycling5280 wrote:

Like I said his past actions for years and his lies have given him no credibility.

But when it's backed up by others and other evidence, he's suddenly very credible.

Floyd's a nice guy, he was always going to do the right thing eventually.

You know where most of the money in the FFF came from, right?

Rundfahrt

Iainf72- what do you think about Floyd admitting doping, but not to doing what he got busted for?

mfin

cycling5280 wrote:

Like I said his past actions for years and his lies have given him no credibility.

Make sure you cut-n-paste the same sentence and use if for Armstrong if he gets done then eh.

iainf72

Rundfahrt wrote:

Iainf72- what do you think about Floyd admitting doping, but not to doing what he got busted for?

I tend to think he didn't knowingly use testosterone at the time.

Rundfahrt

iainf72 wrote:

Rundfahrt wrote:

Iainf72- what do you think about Floyd admitting doping, but not to doing what he got busted for?

I tend to think he didn't knowingly use testosterone at the time.

Is it correct to assume you think someone was slipping him pills or cream that he knew nothing about, even after he has produced all of this detailed info about what he and others took?

blazing_saddles

cycling5280 wrote:

Like I said his past actions for years and his lies have given him no credibility.

So, the only way a liar can keep his credibility is to keep on lying.
(oh and not have 10 people telling a different story, of course.)

shinyhelmut

So Hincapie is credible because he was telling the truth before so he must be telling the truth now. (allegedly)

andrewjoseph

People in this situation will tell the truth when:

they are forced to
it is in their best interests
they have nothing more to gain by lying
they have nothing left to lose

Floyd is at the latter two.

RichN95.

andrewjoseph wrote:

People in this situation will tell the truth when:

they are forced to
it is in their best interests
they have nothing more to gain by lying
they have nothing left to lose

Floyd is at the latter two.

Also:

They are drunk

I believe Floyd was this when he wrote his letter.

andrewjoseph

yeah, i forgot about drunk. ;-)

sherer

poeple will tell the truth when they are in front of a grand jury. With USADA sitting in on the GJ they then interviewed everyone agian afterwards and by then none of the riders could change their story

andrewjoseph

sherer wrote:

poeple will tell the truth when they are in front of a grand jury. With USADA sitting in on the GJ they then interviewed everyone agian afterwards and by then none of the riders could change their story

I think this would fall under 'forced', and 'best interests'.