Orange P7.... Built? (p13)

supersonic

Strangely the same head angle as the Zaskar at 100mm ;-)

delcol

have you had the chance to ride a hammer schmidt yet..

yes they stupendousley expensive (well over here) and yes they weigh a fair bit compaired to a conventinal crank set..

yes it could be classed as gimiky,,

depending on what kind of riding you do, they are pretty dam good i have ridden one the instant shift is awesome when attacking climbs especially teccy climbs the clearence you get to having no middle chainring... shift pedaling forward backwards or dont pedal..
i don't know if they worth the money ie you have to buy the hs the shifter and bb..

we got ours super cheap in whistler got an amazing deal on it.....

The Northern Monkey

supersonic wrote:

Strangely the same head angle as the Zaskar at 100mm ;-)

But who wants 100mm suspension!! :P

supersonic

Me lol. Or less sometimes ;-)

What I am saying is if you added a 140mm fork to the Zaskar it would have the same head angle as the P7, but slightly slacker seat angle.

The Northern Monkey

hehe...doesn't change tube lengths tho :P

supersonic

I'm toying with a new fork for the Zaskar - the Rev race 2010. Has the extra over the Tora now that it didn't really have before (for the money).

The Northern Monkey

still havent had a bloody reply from rutland about the race

The Northern Monkey

Right... the build is no taking a bit more shape...

Rev race 2010 have been bought from Rutland... will get photo's up as soon as they arrive.

Now I was some opinions on 2 things.

1) Cranks.
I don't know what I want....

XT is a whole lot cheaper than most and light... but its not as "bling"... if only XT cranks came in black :evil:

The raceface Deus XC cranks are around the same price and weight AND are black.. but how strong are the Deus cranks/chainrings?

Or do I sacrifce some weight and pay more for some RF atlas double AM cranks?
I would prefer a double crankset if i'm honest, because i'd never use a big ring...never have and never will.

Help me out here!!!

2) Wheelset
I'm planning on going to merlin for my wheels but am stuck on what rim to get (as always).
I'm getting hope pro2 hubs with DT comp DB spokes.... but what rims? I keep hearing XM719 around but I have no idea!

MacAndCheese

SLX cranks, almost the same as XT but arguably better looking and a bit cheaper? more money for other bits and bobs?

The Big Cheese

Agreed on the SLX vs XT - unless it's a racer and you are 10 stone when dripping wet then it's not worth it. It's a heavyish build and you're heavy bloke, so the SLX is well worth it for a few grammes, and look better too. The RF Atlas are plenty strong enough if you want black.

Re: rims. Hope Pro II on 719 is a winning combo, or if you want something burlier go for the 729s.. but I am not much lighter than you at 14.5 stone, and I was fine on them when I had my attack trail.

Merlin built of course

ride_whenever

Right. That's fairly similar to my build, with the exception of finishing kit (i've got thomson and easton monkeybars 8) )

If i were building it again i'd go for

stans flow rims on hop hubs
u-turn revelation maxle lite in 150mm
slx double/bash with 24/36 (i have deus cranks for my inbred but i'm not convinced by the spline and bolt arrangement, prefer the shimano pinch bolt style)
slx mechs with xtr shifters (so smooth)
KMC chain
thomson/easton finishing
Either raceface deus, FSA orbit II XL or hope headset
hope bb
I like the elixirs (have cr carbon on the inbred) but would probably go for hope tech V2 with floating rotors
then hope qr and seat clamp (bear in mind it's a rather odd size needed)
I'd still run it tubeless, large tyres are great on these though.

The Northern Monkey

The hope seatclamp is thie single biggest POS part on the whole of my NS lmao!

Good point about the SLX though... I'd forgotten about that, totally agree with the slx v xt argument too!

Some good things to think about there, cheers guys

Monkeypump

The Big Cheese wrote:

Re: rims. Hope Pro II on 719 is a winning combo, or if you want something burlier go for the 729s.. but I am not much lighter than you at 14.5 stone, and I was fine on them when I had my attack trail.

Merlin built of course

+1 for Pro II & 719s - mine have been bombproof and I'm... ahem... a little heavier than 14.5 stone!

Defo +1 for Merlin too.

The Northern Monkey

right... taking on board what you guys have said i'm thinking...

SLX Chainset + BB.
XT rear mech
SLX front Mech
XT shifters

Pro2 on 719 wheelset

Already got a hope headset

Brakes... still in 2 minds here.. will make a decision when the time comes
Samegoes for finishing kit

The Big Cheese

bigbenj_08 wrote:

right... taking on board what you guys have said i'm thinking...

SLX Chainset + BB.
XT rear mech
SLX front Mech
XT shifters

Pro2 on 719 wheelset

Already got a hope headset

Brakes... still in 2 minds here.. will make a decision when the time comes
Samegoes for finishing kit

Sounds good. If it were me, I'd defo go for hope brakes with Raceface finsihing kit!

The Northern Monkey

WOW
Bloody lovely set of Revelation dual air race arrived today...


over my domains.... the rebound adjuster and compression adjuster are much better.
Nice and light too just gotta fit that spacer!

ooo and the came with a nice RS shock pump that I wasn't expecting

Father Faff

Sad man.

The Northern Monkey

Father Faff wrote:

Sad man.

:?:

lawman

benj let me know how the revs perform if i cant get a zesty this christmas then a set of them for the maxlight will have to do instead

The Northern Monkey

aye will do... won't know till late after xmas though

lawman

tbh im still in two minds wether to pimp out the maxlight or get a zesty, i reckon an fs would be better, but the maxlight would easily be sub 25lbs with some pimpin :?

whens the frame comin??? and as for brakes dont for the love of god get magura, ive just had the lever come apart from the cold weather :shock:

Father Faff

bigbenj_08 wrote:

Father Faff wrote:

Sad man.

:?:

They are just like a pair of forks man. Now if it was your built up P7 than I'd forgive the drooling.....

The Northern Monkey

Father Faff wrote:

bigbenj_08 wrote:

Father Faff wrote:

Sad man.

:?:

They are just like a pair of forks man. Now if it was your built up P7 than I'd forgive the drooling.....

I just love new bits!! just you wiat till I pose the photo of all the parts on display across my room before I set out putting it all together

The Northern Monkey

lawman wrote:

tbh im still in two minds wether to pimp out the maxlight or get a zesty, i reckon an fs would be better, but the maxlight would easily be sub 25lbs with some pimpin :?

whens the frame comin??? and as for brakes dont for the love of god get magura, ive just had the lever come apart from the cold weather :shock:

According to sunset mtb, the frame should be here just after xmas hopefully, just depends when Orange release the next batch of frames.

I definately prefer building to my own spec... its much more fun. Plus it makes your bike a little different to others

missmarple

Big Benjamin! How do you afford all this stuff? As I need (would like) a new hardtail but money constraints just aren't allowing.

Father Faff

bigbenj_08 wrote:

Father Faff wrote:

bigbenj_08 wrote:

Father Faff wrote:

Sad man.

:?:

They are just like a pair of forks man. Now if it was your built up P7 than I'd forgive the drooling.....

I just love new bits!! just you wiat till I pose the photo of all the parts on display across my room before I set out putting it all together

Like I said, you are a sad man!

The Northern Monkey

missmarple wrote:

Big Benjamin! How do you afford all this stuff? As I need (would like) a new hardtail but money constraints just aren't allowing.

no idea tbh... Don't do the "lets go clubbing" thing anymore so it's saving me a fair bitta cash
I just manage to put money away somehow.... Although I did forget I need to get car tax this month, DOH!

The Northern Monkey

Cranks

After all that I went for an XT triple lol.

jay12

nice. the forks look ace too

The Northern Monkey

cheers mate..

2 more big purchases left and we're off

Still undecided on brakes... I would like hope. But I really like the look of Avid elixr cr.

Wheels are going to be Spank Oozy in black built onto red Hope pro2 with DT DB spokes