Got some helmet cam footage of YOUR commute?

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  • Origamist
    Origamist Posts: 807
    SitoUK wrote:
    well, it was recorded in HD but I reduced the size for the processing, also buggered something up which resulted in the black frame ;-)

    standard def would be in a 4:3 aspect ratio, wouldn't it?
    Origamist wrote:
    SitoUK wrote:
    Not a helmet cam but a bar-mounted GoPro HD:

    http://vimeo.com/9276761

    That's Standard Definition though - here's some GoPro HD (stem mounted) film from Stockwell to Kennington shot at 720.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gY2A69JSLk

    WVGA (i.e SD) on the GoPro HD is also 16:9.

    I found that the camera is more stable on the stem than the bars, but the roll-bar mount would be a better fit for stem-mounting.

    I really wish you could adjust the angle of view from 170º to 127º though. I find 1080 too choppy on the bike.
  • SitoUK
    SitoUK Posts: 34
    ah, ok, I only borrowed it from a friend for thisone trip, so did not have too much time to look at all the functionalities. Maybe I'll get one myself though, it's good fun...

    Like your video by the way...almost not any red light on that route! My commute is a constant stop and go...
    Origamist wrote:
    SitoUK wrote:
    well, it was recorded in HD but I reduced the size for the processing, also buggered something up which resulted in the black frame ;-)

    standard def would be in a 4:3 aspect ratio, wouldn't it?
    Origamist wrote:
    SitoUK wrote:
    Not a helmet cam but a bar-mounted GoPro HD:

    http://vimeo.com/9276761

    That's Standard Definition though - here's some GoPro HD (stem mounted) film from Stockwell to Kennington shot at 720.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gY2A69JSLk

    WVGA (i.e SD) on the GoPro HD is also 16:9.

    I found that the camera is more stable on the stem than the bars, but the roll-bar mount would be a better fit for stem-mounting.

    I really wish you could adjust the angle of view from 170º to 127º though. I find 1080 too choppy on the bike.
  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    Just for the sake of completeness, SD video can be either 16:9 or 4:3 and, confusingly, both will have the same resolution (720 x 576 for PAL).

    It's the pixel aspect ratio that changes but the actual res stays the same.

    However that's for proper video and a lot of the more basic devices use 640 x 480 square pixels which is always 4:3.
  • Origamist
    Origamist Posts: 807
    Jamey wrote:
    Just for the sake of completeness, SD video can be either 16:9 or 4:3 and, confusingly, both will have the same resolution (720 x 576 for PAL).

    It's the pixel aspect ratio that changes but the actual res stays the same.

    However that's for proper video and a lot of the more basic devices use 640 x 480 square pixels which is always 4:3.

    Just for the sake of completeness: :wink:
    SD – NTSC: 648x486, 4:3 or 16:9
  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    Have you seen that Father Ted scene where the milkman is talking about the different types of milk and he says "well, there's UHT, of course... But no-one cares about that... Because it's shoite."

    UHT is to milk what NTSC is to TV ;)
  • Origamist
    Origamist Posts: 807
    Jamey wrote:
    Have you seen that Father Ted scene where the milkman is talking about the different types of milk and he says "well, there's UHT, of course... But no-one cares about that... Because it's shoite."

    UHT is to milk what NTSC is to TV ;)

    I guess that means SECAM is curdled milk...!
  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    Heh.

    Today I ran over a Seagull :(
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjnpKh4JBwo

    I still feel pretty sick. The noise was the worst part.

    The camera didn't capture it but glancing down I saw the front wheel roll over. It was pretty horrific tbh.
  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    Guess who's getting reported tomorrow morning:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCLWaToIVl0
  • Mr Plum
    Mr Plum Posts: 1,097
    Made this the other day - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG8RsN8_oSM

    Reeeeaaally shaky though. The camera mount was a bit unstable and bar mounted - should have had it mounted to my helmet. I'll know for next time when I hit the big 50...
    FCN 2 to 8
  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    Bah. Still no reply from Ikea. How long should I give them? Tempted to write and say I'm submitting to police.
  • stuke
    stuke Posts: 2
    A couple of videos showing the first 3-4 miles of my commute in the evening before I get to the lanes. Busy but thankfully not as scary as some of you city commuters have to put up with.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2BXR15iJOg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g1ZXR1Kzog
  • nzandy
    nzandy Posts: 5
    A rather eventful commute home today

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxteRh2Ge9c

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9a6EmTd9xI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBujTmR2Dm8

    Reported the first one to Roadsafe. Shocking driving.
  • redvee
    redvee Posts: 11,922
    Came across this cyclist on the wrong side of the road and he gave the bars a rapid side to side movement when he saw me closing on him.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZI-sEOr3yk

    Later on we have the usual SMIDNTLSorry Mate I Don't Need To Look when coming out of a minor onto a major road.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaoV8aw-lek
    I've added a signature to prove it is still possible.
  • skerto
    skerto Posts: 6
    A seriously close overtake by a Biffa wagon on Monday morning

    (might want to mute it as my language is atrocious!! :shock:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgptru3QBJw

    I sent this video to Biffa yesterday and I've just recieved a phonecall from the driver himself to apologise. He sounded very sincere and admitted that the overtake was stupid (his words) and he would never put anyone in this situation again.
  • jamey, that Ikea driver is playing silly buggers with a dirty great lorry. WTF was he thinking?
  • Question about the MUVI: I believe it's supposed to work with an 8GB Sandisk card, but mine keeps failing. After 4gb it stops recording and/or files get corrupted. I have to re-format the card every couple of days. Very annoying. I'm on the second 8GB card now.

    Anybody had this problem?
  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    Finally had a reply from Ikea. They investigated and sent the following email:
    Dear Mr Howard,

    I am in receipt of your email dated 17th August 2010 in reference to an incident you detail on Lombard Road, Croydon.

    I apologise for the delay in IKEA UK response but this kind of issue requires succinct and clear actions.

    IKEA UK has taken this issue very seriously and involved senior management within DHL who have responded after a thorough
    and detailed investigation has taken place.

    Their findings are detailed below and I understand that DHL management are also prepared to discuss this issue with you directly
    if you wish to contact them direct in the future.

    Thank you for taking the time to detail your complaint and I am hopeful that you will agree that IKEA UK and DHL have actioned this issue
    sufficiently.

    Yours sincerely,
    <snip>
    IKEA UK and IE Customer Services Specialist





    From: <snip>
    Sent: 26 August 2010 11:16
    To: <snip>
    Cc: <snip>; <snip>
    Subject: Re:Cyclist Video



    With reference to com plaint received from Jamey Howard - email dated 17.8.10, and forwarded to us 23.8.10.

    We have now had the opportunity to both view the video provided, and complete our local investigations including a comprehensive review of our vehicle telematics data, and have also conducted an investigatory interview with our driver.

    In summary, our findings follow:-

    Investigatory findings: ( Investigations completed by a member of the senior management team)

    Background:

    1) The driver of the vehicle in question has been with the DHL / IKEA contract since 2008. His recruitment / selection included our usual driver assessment checks, in addition to all routine legal / license checks etc.

    2) Also in line with our normal practises, the driver has undertaken regular reassessment throughout his time with us, the most recent of which was on the 6th August 2010. This driver has passed all assessments taken, without issue, and has maintained an exemplary driving record throughout his period of employment to date.

    3) As you are aware, our driver training includes customer awareness in its broadest sense. We expect our drivers to conduct themselves showing courtesy to all other road users. Our drivers are aware that any / all feedback received forms an integral part of their regular performance appraisals. We can confirm that this driver has previously received no negative feedback / complaints etc during his period of employment to date.

    4) With telematics systems fitted throughout our fleet, we have also checked these records both on the day and time of the incident, as well as his daily debrief records for the last 6 months. In their entirety, these confirm that the driver consistently maintains a professional driving style against the criteria set and approved by the vehicle manufacturers. On the day and time of the incident, we can confirm that telematics registered no instances of harsh braking / over revving / speeding.

    5) During his interview, our driver confirmed that he had been following the cyclist and that he used his horn. He confirmed that the cyclist was using the cycle lane correctly at all times, but that he wanted to overtake safely, and to ensure this, used his horn as a warning only, and not as a demonstration of frustration or anger. (Our viewing of the video confirms that the use of the horn was not prolonged). He again confirms that he subsequently slowed ( no 'harsh ' braking recorded on telematics) in readiness for the traffic island that is also noted in our customer's complaint. Following this, the driver readjusted his speed appropriately, which is again confirmed by our telematics data. During this interview, our driver also expressed his disappointment that any road user would find his driving unprofessional, or in any way threatening.

    Summary:

    We would firstly like to confirm that we take our responsibility as a major commercial vehicle road user very seriously. We are committed, first and foremost, to maintaining the highest possible safety standards at all times. To do this effectively, we need our drivers to consistently drive professionally and with due consideration to all road users and pedestrians. We also fully appreciate that every one of our drivers act as our Company ambassadors every time they make a journey. Along with our driver, we are therefore very disappointed to receive this complaint, and I hope that the actions we have taken upon receipt demonstrate the seriousness with which we take such matters.

    In this instance, from the information provided, as well as a comprehensive review of telematics data, and interviews with our driver, we are satisfied that our driver maintained professional and safety standards. However, as this is not the perception of the Mr Howard, we should like to offer our sincere apologies for any related distress he felt.

    Please let me know if you require any additional info, or should Mr Howard wish to talk to us directly in more detail, we would be happy to talk to him.

    Best regards

    <snip>

    My reply back to them was:
    Thanks for Getting back to me <snip>,

    Shortly after you received my first email I would have appreciated a quick reply to say that you were launching an investigation and an estimate of how long it would take as I had no idea whether you were treating my complaint seriously or not until I received today's email from you.

    As it is, I do appreciate you investigating the matter, however I disagree with the findings and still believe there was deliberate obstruction from the driver. There are three traffic islands shown in that section of video and the way he handled the second one was completely different to the way he handled the other two.He remained at a slow speed (slower than a cyclist) for a long time after he was clear of island number two and only began accelerating at the point where it was most inconvenient to me and would cause me the most problems.

    However, despite the fact that I do not accept DHL's findings I also do not believe there is any point in pursuing this matter further, partly because I believe DHL will simply stick to their story and party because I think we've already accomplished most of what I was hoping to achieve - simply raising awareness that while cyclists are vulnerable, we're not defenceless. Especially those of us (and there are a growing number) that record our rides / commutes.

    The fact that there has been an investigation at all has hopefully been a bit of a wake-up call, and that's enough for now.

    So as I said, I will agree to differ and I'm happy for you to consider the matter closed now, and no further action is necessary on your part.

    Thank you
    Jamey
  • DHl/Ikea...what a crock!

    Whoever reviewed that video needs a slap!
  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    Hoo boyyyy... Absolute doozy tonight.

    Was almost home when a car coming towards me had to swerve out of the way of an idiot who pulled out of a junction without looking and crashed into a church with an almighty bang... Car was a state, airbags on and everything. Fortunately everyone was fine though

    Caught the entire thing on video.

    Gonna pop into work tomorrow evening to cut it (needs brightening up a bit too, was dark) and will post a short clip here.

    Chap was made up that I'd filmed it.
  • gaz545
    gaz545 Posts: 493
    Jamey wrote:
    Finally had a reply from Ikea. They investigated and sent the following email:

    That is the biggest load of b/s i have ever read. i don't know how you made such a good response to that.
    The driver was on the brakes after they had passed the island, he was still on the brakes as you went past the split in the trailer and you can clearly hear him revving his engine as you pull along side the cab. I can only presume from the angles that you where in a position where the driver could then see you and he continues to push through even though you made a perfectly safe overtake and he forces him self and you to take action to avoid a collision.

    Absolutely appalling driving and if this is how they treat clear cut video evidence then i might as well ditch the cameras.
  • gaz545
    gaz545 Posts: 493
    After testing my rear mounting system for a ContourHD - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8hc2i-gbTo
    I decided to upgrade my main camera to a ContourHD 1080p camera and move my old one to the rear of the bike. For anyone that is interested, details about the parts used and pictures of it can be found on my blog via this link

    4954920089_b95b6a739c.jpg
  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    That's a pretty cool mount. With two CHDs I think you must be the most well-equipped cammer out there now. Are you gonna use it in 1080p30 or 720p60? In all honestly I'd recommend 60fps as I really don't think there's a significant quality boost between 720p30 and 1080p30 as the bitrates are so similar.

    But the extra frame rate of 60fps, that does make a huge difference to me, especially in daytime.
  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    As promised, here's the video of the accident from Friday night:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_-upK-oVWY
    I was nearly home when I saw this collision (excuse the language, I was quite taken aback), so I stopped to check everyone was ok. I kept filming for about five minutes after the end of this clip and made sure to get number plates etc. I gave a witness statement to the police and told them (and both drivers) I had the incident on video.
  • gaz545
    gaz545 Posts: 493
    Jamey wrote:
    That's a pretty cool mount. With two CHDs I think you must be the most well-equipped cammer out there now. Are you gonna use it in 1080p30 or 720p60? In all honestly I'd recommend 60fps as I really don't think there's a significant quality boost between 720p30 and 1080p30 as the bitrates are so similar.

    But the extra frame rate of 60fps, that does make a huge difference to me, especially in daytime.
    In the UK you might be right. I think TheVexatiousLitigant in new Zealand is running two contourhd 1080p's

    I am running 720p at 60fps. fine in the day time although 1080p 30fps might be better at night time.
  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    30fps is definitely better at night time as it allows the camera to use a slower shutter speed, but the angle / field of view on 1080 is narrower than 720.

    I guess it depends whether you prefer the wide-angle view or a slightly narrower one.
  • I move to the outside lane to turn right and I'm also indicating with my arm. However, I'm obviously not going fast enough for white van man
    http://www.vimeo.com/14759407
  • kurako
    kurako Posts: 1,098
    mapryan wrote:
    I move to the outside lane to turn right and I'm also indicating with my arm. However, I'm obviously not going fast enough for white van man
    http://www.vimeo.com/14759407

    Ouch. That's pretty bad. I've just dropped them an email. LOL!
    Here's a video I found of some pretty poor driving from a van marked in Pathfinder livery.

    http://www.vimeo.com/14759407

    The cyclist in the video can be heard to exclaim 'What a c*nt'.

    I'm afraid to say that in this circumstance I'd have to agree with that sentiment.

    Sincerely,

    Did you contact Roadsafe?
  • Yep
  • Pufftmw
    Pufftmw Posts: 1,941
    Wahey!

    Got my camera sorted so here (in 3 parts) is my commute into work today, which was a bit longer than normat at 27mins 30 because of the tube strike...

    Camera is an ATC5K mounted on the handlebars. I thought it would be extremely bumpy/jerky due to the thin road tyres & high psi on my road racer but its actually pretty good.

    I also had a Mini DV (off eBay for £12) mounted on my helmet and that was a lot more bumpy and obviously moved around more due to constantly looking around, shoulder checks etc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsEpqLelvpM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-u-WgWhMhA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhkGo7FTddI

    Nothing of real note happens bar a police car suddenly deciding to turn right and a bloke in a blue Saxo trying to get into small gaps hitting my elbow. Lots of commuters though...

    I will be running a video camera from now on though, makes sense I think.

    :)