Got some helmet cam footage of YOUR commute?
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Mr Sworld wrote:
I wouldn't have put myself in that position. If there is no ASL and no space in front of the lead vehicle then hang back and let them pull away first, then take primary position behind them.0 -
Kieran_Burns wrote:Mr Sworld wrote:
50/50 IMHO. That's the exact reason why I never pull up alongside the leading vehicle (from his point of view there was no need to indicate as there was no one to warn when he stopped - you unexpectedly came down the inside of a line of traffic)
That's why I was taught to indicate regardless. Traffic is too dynamic to make absolute decisions whether indication is necessary or not. Indicating has become so automatic to me that I indicate pulling off our drive at home (we live on a short cul-de-sac) and out of my parking space at work :?
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That said spidey sense should have anticipated that the van driver might do something clueless. You point out yourself that the junction really needs an ASL. There was a nice gap between the rear of the van and the car behind. Like Daddy0 I would have taken the gap and positioned myself in primary in front of the car until I had reached the turning.
Unfortunately Mrs Cookdn learnt this the hard way last year. Positioned herself in the left of an ASL to go straight on at red traffic lights and then got left-hooked by the twunt in the Audi behind her (which drove away :x). Luckily nothing more than some minor bruising. She now understands primary and secondary. Boardman CX Team0 -
Agree with the post above. If I was driving I obviously wouldn't have done the same as the van driver, but I certainly wouldn't have done the same as the cyclist either.
You went down a teeeeeeny gap down the left of that traffic (door zone?!) and then stopped on the far left of the lane, not quite in front of the van, it would have looked to the driver that you were turning left. I would have gone down the outside of the queue and then taken primary in the massive space behind the van.0 -
bails87 wrote:Agree with the post above. If I was driving I obviously wouldn't have done the same as the van driver, but I certainly wouldn't have done the same as the cyclist either.
You went down a teeeeeeny gap down the left of that traffic (door zone?!) and then stopped on the far left of the lane, not quite in front of the van, it would have looked to the driver that you were turning left. I would have gone down the outside of the queue and then taken primary in the massive space behind the van.
Hence my comment of 50/50....Chunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
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I guess some people will see this as 50/50, or me fully in the wrong, but it was actually worse than it looks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgZKtfqUCRM
Very difficult to see in the vid, but watch carefully and you can see him speed up and actually steer into me.FCN 2 to 80 -
Shocking driving - but given the first incident with him, was it really sensible to "nip up the inside" shortly after?
Unfortunately, technically he is correct - you shouldn't have overtaken on the left, although this is no excuse to hit you. 9 times out of 10 you'll get away with that manoeuvre - because in the main, car drivers are sensible - but that 1 time when it doesn't work is what counts ... and in this case it had a high probability of not working so should've been avoided. (IMHO!)0 -
Slowbike wrote:Shocking driving - but given the first incident with him, was it really sensible to "nip up the inside" shortly after?
Unfortunately, technically he is correct - you shouldn't have overtaken on the left, although this is no excuse to hit you. 9 times out of 10 you'll get away with that manoeuvre - because in the main, car drivers are sensible - but that 1 time when it doesn't work is what counts ... and in this case it had a high probability of not working so should've been avoided. (IMHO!)
True, and you're right, and I knew this, but there was a part of me that, after assessing the dangers, couldn't stop myself from presenting him with an opportunity to show his true colours. Reckless and cocky perhaps...
Due to the traffic ahead, he was slowing to have to eventually stop to allow the car in front to turn right. There was plenty of room for me to filter safely on the inside. I ride these roads everyday BTW and the parked cars are always in the same place - not once in over 4 years have I been purposely blocked into parked cars like that in either of those 2 locations. The ratio is more like 1 in 500 rather than 1 in 10 because as you say, most car driver are sensible. It could have easily been avoided though, but I decided on this occasion to give him the opportunity. It's admittedly arrogant of me to knowingly put myself in danger to make a point, but the danger was relatively minimal and the guy showed himself to be a complete dick.
Believe me or not, because I know this is a bone of contention, but I ride the same with or without the camera so it honestly had absolutely nothing to do with that. This will cause some controversy, especially in this thread/part of the forum, but I honestly believe that after making a calm and calculated decision based on years of experience, it's not always wrong to put yourself in a minimal amount of danger to make a point. There are many more 'incidents' that I back away from than the ones that I get involved with, but on this occasion the danger was minimal - if the gap wasn't big enough on the inside in the first place then I would have never put myself there, but it was huge and he actually closed me in causing damage only to his car. I was hardly 'dicing with death' as the Daily Mail would have you believe - I've been knocked into harder when riding in big packs of riders and still stayed up...
Anyway, I've written more than I intended to, and everyone will have their own take on it. Reckless, cocky and arrogant perhaps, but was I wrong to make a point after making a calculated risk assessment of the situation?FCN 2 to 80 -
Yes. I think you were wrong to make the point - because at that point you were in the wrong - and the driver will use that as a reason for driving the way he did.
Don't get me wrong - I sympathise with the situation you found yourself in - and as I said - many of us would've gone for that gap - but if you wanted confrontation then you would've done better to pull alongside when he'd stopped.
The problem with tits of drivers is that they can't see what they're doing wrong - they don't recognise that it is your life they're playing with - or if they do, they don't care. So to confront them succesfully you have to be squeaky clean - pita because none of us are perfect on the road - even when riding.0 -
Slowbike wrote:Yes. I think you were wrong to make the point - because at that point you were in the wrong - and the driver will use that as a reason for driving the way he did.
Don't get me wrong - I sympathise with the situation you found yourself in - and as I said - many of us would've gone for that gap - but if you wanted confrontation then you would've done better to pull alongside when he'd stopped.
The problem with tits of drivers is that they can't see what they're doing wrong - they don't recognise that it is your life they're playing with - or if they do, they don't care. So to confront them succesfully you have to be squeaky clean - pita because none of us are perfect on the road - even when riding.
Spot on response I feel.Chunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
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Kieran_Burns wrote:Slowbike wrote:Yes. I think you were wrong to make the point - because at that point you were in the wrong - and the driver will use that as a reason for driving the way he did.
Don't get me wrong - I sympathise with the situation you found yourself in - and as I said - many of us would've gone for that gap - but if you wanted confrontation then you would've done better to pull alongside when he'd stopped.
The problem with tits of drivers is that they can't see what they're doing wrong - they don't recognise that it is your life they're playing with - or if they do, they don't care. So to confront them succesfully you have to be squeaky clean - pita because none of us are perfect on the road - even when riding.
Spot on response I feel.
Agreed, well put.
But (and I don't want to sound any more like the self-righteous prick that I'm already coming across as)... it's not 'wrong' to filter on the left - inadvisable in certain circumstances (such as this), but not 'wrong' or against any traffic laws, especially given that the car was slowing to an eventual stop and the gap was approx 1.5 meters. This is before we consider that there is no "reason" to intentionally drive into a cyclist.
It wasn't the confrontation that I was after at all. It was to make the point that he doesn't have a right to use his car in a dangerous and aggressive manner every time he feels that a cyclists needs to be taught a lesson. I could probably have gone about it a different way though as it just resulted in a bit of a stand off making me 3 minutes later home than I otherwise would have been...FCN 2 to 80 -
Double post.FCN 2 to 80
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Mr Plum wrote:But ... it's not 'wrong' to filter on the left
Isn't it? - or rather was that "filtering"
and it is a question - because I don't know the answer ...
Wasn't there just a single marked lane there? And the vehicle in front was moving ...
If so, you're not filtering are you? You're overtaking aren't you?
Isn't it fact that a lot of "cyclist at fault" accidents are caused when they travel up the nearside of vehicles?
I have similar issue but in reverse with cars trying to squeeze through on my left as I'm riding up to turn right (single carriageway) - I don't mind once I'm stopped (if I have to stop) but before that they're overtaking on the nearside - or they'd like to, but I tend to block the road for a short while ... !
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Violent road rage and assault and the cops do next to nothing
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehqBtcjOIc8
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Not my clip.0 -
I've added a signature to prove it is still possible.0
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This is a good example of what its like being a cyclist in London. I'm doing 24 in a 30 and pacing the white van more or less. I'm not driving in the gutter but about 4 or 5ft out. Impatient black van driver draws up close behind the van, then forces himself across on me and pushes me towards the gutter. He was about 6 inches from my handlebars. His passenger shouts "move over you c**t" as he passes. You can then see what happens afterwards because the white van has accelerated to stop him undertaking then he has to brake hard to avoid hitting the cyclist ahead and nearly knocks him off, before having to brake sharply again for stationary traffic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSc248qhN-U
I've muted the sound on this as you can only hear road noise and me telling the van to eff off. Driver also shouted "W anchor!" at me as I passed and left him sitting in traffic, but again you can't hear that in the clip.
Worth sticking the vid up on that Police "post your clips" site?1997 Gary Fisher Big Sur
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oodboo wrote:
Looks like great fun and the complete opposite of mine. Those are the best videos, no axe to grind, just having fun on your bike.
Here's mine, all shot in reverse cam cos I was testing out a new saddle rail mount:
Morning (shot on a Friday obvs)
Evening great excuse to roll out this choon
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First video is an example of what every cyclist should NOT do. I don't even know what possessed me to pass on the right side. Needless to say got scared to death by the fast oncoming lorry. Lesson learned... :roll:
Cycling stupidity
Next one speaks for itself... Bank junction every morning. Just not sure what/why the lady with the Rapha jersey was yelling. Crazy. :shock:
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Blink and you'll miss it;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R73E1WnsEI
Some road rash on his head from no helmet.The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the devil's own satanic herd.0 -
Owch, speed at speed bump with a phone in hand caused accident by the looks of things.Dork Knight wrote:Blink and you'll miss it;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R73E1WnsEI
Some road rash on his head from no helmet.
<not tempting the helmet/anti-helmet debate>Intent on Cycling Commuting on a budget, but keep on breaking/crashing/finding nice stuff to buy.
Bike 1 (Broken) - Bike 2(Borked) - Bike 3(broken spokes) - Bike 4( Needs Work) - Bike 5 (in bits) - Bike 6* ...0 -
I've posted this before in commuting chat but here's a reminder that it wasn't long ago that we had warm dry evenings and commuted in short sleeves.
Just a collection of summer cycling experiences in and around London although I accept that the NSFW lyrics of Sleaford Mods aren't for everyone. The Badger remix was due to an in joke (that i'm not sure I even get) on commuting chat
Tweet, Tweet, Tweet (Badger remix)FCN = 40 -
Missing Summer anyone?
Here's a reminder of those long, warm lazy days of July 2019
Grown Man Sport (Gandhi remix)FCN = 40 -
Here's some footage of a typical English winter cycle commute shot on a very wet morning in January. The only redeeming feature was that I spotted not one but two commuting buddies out on the road and rode with them which made the journey seem slightly more pleasant
Early Morning Rain
Hope you like itFCN = 40 -
Can't miss them pink shorts ... 1
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He's not wrong - it's different - so it's noticeable .... everyone else in identikit day glow stuff with reflectives ... nah ... just don't stand out ...1
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Here's my latest cycle commuting video.
The video was meant to juxtapose summer versus winter riding along the CS7 but I'm not sure that comes across very well, more just a mish-mash of riding clips.
Also GoPro studio kept on crashing and so the ending wasn't as planned and I had to cut it short.
Still, I had fun making the video and it's always an experience riding those roads
Steel and You
Okay, okay so my Specialized Langster is aloominum not steel but I was a big Numan fan back in the 80's so it's a great chance to use this track.
Check it out, perhaps you might see yourself in there...FCN = 40 -
Here's another one from me but with a difference. I've got a 360 degree cam on loan and shot some footage one evening last week heading south across Tower Bridge.
Drag the mouse around to scroll around the footage
Cycle commute across Tower Bridge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqFwFUkxDfM FCN = 40
