S*** Small Races 2023
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Wonder if Wout wants to rewind?kingstongraham said:Laporte with a perfect ride at DDV.
Nobody needed to gift him that one.0 -
Stephens' commentary is much better than the usual suspects'.
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He finished 11th on the same time as the 2nd place. PCS called him as 'pulling' about 50-60ks out. Not sure if he was their main man for today; on paper they had a pretty strong team.seanoconn said:
Pidcock was on the start list but didn’t see him during the bits I managed to catch.================================
Cake is just weakness entering the body1 -
Decent final 20km at the Miguel Induarain, and good parcours.
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Ethan Hayter wins from a fairly large bunch at Itzulia.
Worryingly, Bernal led home the laughing group 6 minutes behind.================================
Cake is just weakness entering the body1 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
This news seems to have moved the PTP market“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Odd finale at the Basque"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Great ride by Cav in the final km there but just didn't have the legs when the youngsters opened up, 20m too long for him. Bol did a nice job of bringing him up around 1km out and then he surfed the various wheels to get a good position, possibly got forced into going a touch too early though. Philipsen takes it.2
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Jakobsen nowhere, Cav held on for third. Theuns went early and then made it easy for Philipsen by leaving a nice gap on the barrier. Welsford second.0
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Cav in 3rd ...looked ok"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Yeah too early for sure but otherwise encouragingPross said:Great ride by Cav in the final km there but just didn't have the legs when the youngsters opened up, 20m too long for him. Bol did a nice job of bringing him up around 1km out and then he surfed the various wheels to get a good position, possibly got forced into going a touch too early though. Philipsen takes it.
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm1 -
Pross said:
Great ride by Cav in the final km there but just didn't have the legs when the youngsters opened up, 20m too long for him. Bol did a nice job of bringing him up around 1km out and then he surfed the various wheels to get a good position, possibly got forced into going a touch too early though. Philipsen takes it.
Pross said:Jakobsen nowhere, Cav held on for third. Theuns went early and then made it easy for Philipsen by leaving a nice gap on the barrier. Welsford second.
Cav on the up? Injury and sickness free, more to come? 🤞mididoctors said:Cav in 3rd ...looked ok
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Yeah, he seemed to have the pace but was on Theuns wheel who went early so he had to follow. Watching him move through both on Bol’s wheel then by himself was good to watch, Groenewegen tried a bit of barging to get out but Cav wasn’t having any of it, he looked confident. Everything will have to go right to beat the likes of Philipsen but he looks to be back up there.seanoconn said:Pross said:Great ride by Cav in the final km there but just didn't have the legs when the youngsters opened up, 20m too long for him. Bol did a nice job of bringing him up around 1km out and then he surfed the various wheels to get a good position, possibly got forced into going a touch too early though. Philipsen takes it.
Pross said:Jakobsen nowhere, Cav held on for third. Theuns went early and then made it easy for Philipsen by leaving a nice gap on the barrier. Welsford second.
Cav on the up? Injury and sickness free, more to come? 🤞mididoctors said:Cav in 3rd ...looked ok
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Where was the Aussie wheel licker, Caleb Ewan?Pross said:
Yeah, he seemed to have the pace but was on Theuns wheel who went early so he had to follow. Watching him move through both on Bol’s wheel then by himself was good to watch, Groenewegen tried a bit of barging to get out but Cav wasn’t having any of it, he looked confident. Everything will have to go right to beat the likes of Philipsen but he looks to be back up there.seanoconn said:Pross said:Great ride by Cav in the final km there but just didn't have the legs when the youngsters opened up, 20m too long for him. Bol did a nice job of bringing him up around 1km out and then he surfed the various wheels to get a good position, possibly got forced into going a touch too early though. Philipsen takes it.
Pross said:Jakobsen nowhere, Cav held on for third. Theuns went early and then made it easy for Philipsen by leaving a nice gap on the barrier. Welsford second.
Cav on the up? Injury and sickness free, more to come? 🤞mididoctors said:Cav in 3rd ...looked ok
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8thDorset_Boy said:
Where was the Aussie wheel licker, Caleb Ewan?Pross said:
Yeah, he seemed to have the pace but was on Theuns wheel who went early so he had to follow. Watching him move through both on Bol’s wheel then by himself was good to watch, Groenewegen tried a bit of barging to get out but Cav wasn’t having any of it, he looked confident. Everything will have to go right to beat the likes of Philipsen but he looks to be back up there.seanoconn said:Pross said:Great ride by Cav in the final km there but just didn't have the legs when the youngsters opened up, 20m too long for him. Bol did a nice job of bringing him up around 1km out and then he surfed the various wheels to get a good position, possibly got forced into going a touch too early though. Philipsen takes it.
Pross said:Jakobsen nowhere, Cav held on for third. Theuns went early and then made it easy for Philipsen by leaving a nice gap on the barrier. Welsford second.
Cav on the up? Injury and sickness free, more to come? 🤞mididoctors said:Cav in 3rd ...looked ok
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WTF was Shimano service bike doing inside the barriers of the final 100m on the finishing ramp? Ended up taking out Higuita & Carapazmididoctors said:Odd finale at the Basque
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I should know better by now than to waste a PTP pick on him!Pross said:
8thDorset_Boy said:
Where was the Aussie wheel licker, Caleb Ewan?Pross said:
Yeah, he seemed to have the pace but was on Theuns wheel who went early so he had to follow. Watching him move through both on Bol’s wheel then by himself was good to watch, Groenewegen tried a bit of barging to get out but Cav wasn’t having any of it, he looked confident. Everything will have to go right to beat the likes of Philipsen but he looks to be back up there.seanoconn said:Pross said:Great ride by Cav in the final km there but just didn't have the legs when the youngsters opened up, 20m too long for him. Bol did a nice job of bringing him up around 1km out and then he surfed the various wheels to get a good position, possibly got forced into going a touch too early though. Philipsen takes it.
Pross said:Jakobsen nowhere, Cav held on for third. Theuns went early and then made it easy for Philipsen by leaving a nice gap on the barrier. Welsford second.
Cav on the up? Injury and sickness free, more to come? 🤞mididoctors said:Cav in 3rd ...looked ok
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Basque was amusing"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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He has the speed, but he needs a perfect lead out. Very often he loses position on the run in from larger sprinters bumping him off the wheel.Dorset_Boy said:
Where was the Aussie wheel licker, Caleb Ewan?Pross said:
Yeah, he seemed to have the pace but was on Theuns wheel who went early so he had to follow. Watching him move through both on Bol’s wheel then by himself was good to watch, Groenewegen tried a bit of barging to get out but Cav wasn’t having any of it, he looked confident. Everything will have to go right to beat the likes of Philipsen but he looks to be back up there.seanoconn said:Pross said:Great ride by Cav in the final km there but just didn't have the legs when the youngsters opened up, 20m too long for him. Bol did a nice job of bringing him up around 1km out and then he surfed the various wheels to get a good position, possibly got forced into going a touch too early though. Philipsen takes it.
Pross said:Jakobsen nowhere, Cav held on for third. Theuns went early and then made it easy for Philipsen by leaving a nice gap on the barrier. Welsford second.
Cav on the up? Injury and sickness free, more to come? 🤞mididoctors said:Cav in 3rd ...looked ok
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I've mentioned this on twitter - but 16 years between first and last podium for Cav. Can anyone beat that. I looked at the likely suspects and found Zoetemelk at Amstel (15 years) and Poulidor at the Tour (14 years). Maybe Valverde.
Edit: Valverde matches it at the VueltaTwitter: @RichN951 -
Valverde also matches it with La Flèche Wallonne. He has 15 year gap between 2nd at the worlds and 1st which is probably more notable.RichN95. said:I've mentioned this on twitter - but 16 years between first and last podium for Cav. Can anyone beat that. I looked at the likely suspects and found Zoetemelk at Amstel (15 years) and Poulidor at the Tour (14 years). Maybe Valverde.
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I genuinely looked at Fleche and missed it. I looked at Valverde, Zoetemelk, Poulidor and BartaliTheBigBean said:
Valverde also matches it with La Flèche Wallonne. He has 15 year gap between 2nd at the worlds and 1st which is probably more notable.RichN95. said:I've mentioned this on twitter - but 16 years between first and last podium for Cav. Can anyone beat that. I looked at the likely suspects and found Zoetemelk at Amstel (15 years) and Poulidor at the Tour (14 years). Maybe Valverde.
Edit: Valverde matches it at the VueltaTwitter: @RichN950 -
Davide Rebellin?RichN95. said:
I genuinely looked at Fleche and missed it. I looked at Valverde, Zoetemelk, Poulidor and BartaliTheBigBean said:
Valverde also matches it with La Flèche Wallonne. He has 15 year gap between 2nd at the worlds and 1st which is probably more notable.RichN95. said:I've mentioned this on twitter - but 16 years between first and last podium for Cav. Can anyone beat that. I looked at the likely suspects and found Zoetemelk at Amstel (15 years) and Poulidor at the Tour (14 years). Maybe Valverde.
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Good shoutDeadCalm said:
Davide Rebellin?RichN95. said:
I genuinely looked at Fleche and missed it. I looked at Valverde, Zoetemelk, Poulidor and BartaliTheBigBean said:
Valverde also matches it with La Flèche Wallonne. He has 15 year gap between 2nd at the worlds and 1st which is probably more notable.RichN95. said:I've mentioned this on twitter - but 16 years between first and last podium for Cav. Can anyone beat that. I looked at the likely suspects and found Zoetemelk at Amstel (15 years) and Poulidor at the Tour (14 years). Maybe Valverde.
Edit: Valverde matches it at the Vuelta
He won san Sebastien back in 97/98 iirc.... God knows when his last podium was
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Rebellin was out of the top tier from the late noughties really. He only rode three monuments in the 2010s; 2 x Lombardy and 1 x Milan-Sanremo.0
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Basque St4: Landa sits on Vinegar's wheel for 20km, but happily Vingegaard still takes it and holds overall.1
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Landa led down most of the mildly terrifying descent. Also, Vingegaard is the race leader so it's accepted that he'll get sat on by the second placed rider if he breaks away.Mad_Malx said:Basque St4: Landa sits on Vinegar's wheel for 20km, but happily Vingegaard still takes it and holds overall.
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Courtesy of @velostatistics on twitter, the ones to better Cav & Valverde are:mididoctors said:
Good shoutDeadCalm said:
Davide Rebellin?RichN95. said:
I genuinely looked at Fleche and missed it. I looked at Valverde, Zoetemelk, Poulidor and BartaliTheBigBean said:
Valverde also matches it with La Flèche Wallonne. He has 15 year gap between 2nd at the worlds and 1st which is probably more notable.RichN95. said:I've mentioned this on twitter - but 16 years between first and last podium for Cav. Can anyone beat that. I looked at the likely suspects and found Zoetemelk at Amstel (15 years) and Poulidor at the Tour (14 years). Maybe Valverde.
Edit: Valverde matches it at the Vuelta
He won san Sebastien back in 97/98 iirc.... God knows when his last podium was
18 years: Pierino Gavazzi at the Trofeo Matteoti 1973-1991
17 years: Davide Rebellin at the GP Prato 1998-2015
17 years: Fausto Coppi at the Coppa Bernocchi 1939-1956
17 years: Aldo Bini at Milano-Torino 1935-1952Twitter: @RichN950 -
The standard of the field excluding the top few riders seems very poor at the moment."Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0
