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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Dorset_Boy said:

    andyp said:

    takethehighroad said:

    The definitive answer is that it can't be a monument as it's not 200k+

    It's not anywhere close to having over one hundred editions either.
    When did the Monuments become the Monuments? How many editions did it need?

    I don't think the term was used until the late 90s, maybe early 2000s. It's certainly not in my books from the late 80s. The same goes for 'Grand Tour'
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    RichN95. said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    andyp said:

    takethehighroad said:

    The definitive answer is that it can't be a monument as it's not 200k+

    It's not anywhere close to having over one hundred editions either.
    When did the Monuments become the Monuments? How many editions did it need?

    I don't think the term was used until the late 90s, maybe early 2000s. It's certainly not in my books from the late 80s. The same goes for 'Grand Tour'
    I wrote pieces about each of them for a website in the mid-90s, and although it is no longer online, I'm pretty sure they were described as the five monuments. I also know that I definitely didn't coin the phrase, i.e. I picked it up from elsewhere.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    Someone should tweet Kelly and ask if they were monuments when he was nearly winning them all.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    FWIW Belgians only really started using it in the 90s when the World Cup was a thing, to distinguish from top tier races and other World Cup races.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Milano Torino today - has Carapaz entered based on historical results rather than the actual course?
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    kingstongraham said:

    Milano Torino today - has Carapaz entered based on historical results rather than the actual course?

    He's not raced since the Ecuadorian Nationals in January, so I think is probably just getting a race in his legs ahead of Catalunya next week.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    Lotte Kopecky with an incredible ride to win Nokere Koerse today just 4 days after the death of her brother Seppe.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Who knew that Gaviria now rides for Movistar!!!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Not me!
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    GP Denain today, which is what this thread was essentially created for. Contained this perfect moment.

  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Not cycling races, but after Numersixvalverde and Pineau de Re winning at the Grand National, Galopin des Champs came up trumps for me at Cheltenham this year. Makes up for the lousy showing of Alaphilippe a couple of years ago.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Catalunya in here?

    Great finishing speed from Evenepoel from a terrible position. Almost gets to Roglic.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    Poor Dario Cataldo, multiple fractures of the femur, vertebrae and ribs from the crash in Catalunya today:

    https://racing.trekbikes.com/stories/trek-segafredo-men/get-well-soon-dario
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    Not good to read that. Hope he can recover. I did not like the way the tv directors focused on and replayed that crash esp while the race was reaching the end.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Cataldo looked utterly floored
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    That sprint was long time wise
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,823
    Adam Yates must have been involved too as he finished 10:35 down
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    Could have been Yates that caused it. Seemed like a UAE rider overtook an Alpecin(?) rider (possibly Sbaragli) from the right, while the Alpecin rider was looking left and then chopped him and both came down which caused the chain reaction that led to Cataldo etc. crashing.
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,610
    takethehighroad said:

    Adam Yates must have been involved too as he finished 10:35 down

    Yes he was involved
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,215
    G Thomas doing his own thing again rather than fighting with his Giro rivals?
    Or was he caught up in the carnage? He rolled in a minute down
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    red.rider said:

    G Thomas doing his own thing again rather than fighting with his Giro rivals?
    Or was he caught up in the carnage? He rolled in a minute down

    This is him at the front, I'm pretty sure, as the crash happened behind. He was on the front till 3km to go, so just not getting involved.


  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    He's there to ride for Bernal isn't he? Also, possibly for Hayter yesetrday.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Pross said:

    He's there to ride for Bernal isn't he? Also, possibly for Hayter yesetrday.

    I think they said Bernal isn't riding for GC.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Anyway, proper climb today - last 11km average about 8%. See if Roglic can stay with Evenepoel up that.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Bernal dropped a good 8km from the top. Sad to see.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Glad Roglic didn't win that after wheel sucking the entire way. He's got to be the most negative rider in the current peloton.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    kingstongraham said:

    Anyway, proper climb today - last 11km average about 8%. See if Roglic can stay with Evenepoel up that.

    Surprised Evenepoel didn't try and find out.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Why did Evenepoel go so wide at the final corner?
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    phreak said:

    Glad Roglic didn't win that after wheel sucking the entire way. He's got to be the most negative rider in the current peloton.

    Rui Costa would like a word.

  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    phreak said:

    Glad Roglic didn't win that after wheel sucking the entire way. He's got to be the most negative rider in the current peloton.

    You do know the primary objective in races is to win? 😉

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