Boris Becker
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always the auto bio to milk
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.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Nothing like milking it, eh......
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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and i think we'll all agree that BB is sliiiightly more succesful than Thomas..
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Don't forget the film..... soundtrack available on Amazon music if you want it.
Ugo's gonna explode.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Don’t know about that. If you are a top player, you can win buckets of Slams, but if you are a top cyclist, you’ll struggle to rack up more than a handful of GTs.MattFalle said:and i think we'll all agree that BB is sliiiightly more succesful than Thomas.
The top 3 shared over 60 Slams in the last 2 decades… nobody has won anywhere near as much top silverware in cycling…
For what is worth, comparatively, Thomas and Becker are not a million miles apart
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errr. no. Soz.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Here is my conversion. It’s not unusual to win 2 slams in one year, it has happened over and over, it happens almost every year, 3 is also Not uncommon. It is very unusual to win 2 GT in the same year, it has happened 2 or 3 of times in the last 25 years.MattFalle said:errr. no. Soz.
So I would convert 3 Slams to 1 TdF and maybe 2 Slams per Giro or Vuelta.
So, Djokovic has 21 points, I think, Merckx has 27 points
Becker has 6 points, Thomas 3…
A more complete analysis would include half points for finals/podiums, would probably see them getting closer
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The key thing though is that with Becker you can't help but wonder why he threw it all away, but with G, you think that he's probably over-achieved slightly despite liking the odd beer too many every now and again.ugo.santalucia said:For what is worth, comparatively, Thomas and Becker are not a million miles apart.
Plus of course whatever one's sporting achievements, not spending a spell in chokie and not fathering a child between courses in a restaurant broom cupboard are probably decisive favourable factors in most folks' books.
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Could it be that in Germany they are short of sporting heroes?
Footy wins have always been the collective… they hardly had stars… maybe Gerd Muller and Beckenbauer… Matthaeus wasn’t… then they had some doped cyclists… who else?left the forum March 20230 -
Racing drivers off the top of my head.ugo.santalucia said:Could it be that in Germany they are short of sporting heroes?
Footy wins have always been the collective… they hardly had stars… maybe Gerd Muller and Beckenbauer… Matthaeus wasn’t… then they had some doped cyclists… who else?
Winter sports.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
or a sign of being boring.wallace_and_gromit said:ugo.santalucia said:For what is worth, comparatively, Thomas and Becker are not a million miles apart.
Plus of course whatever one's sporting achievements, not spending a spell in chokie and not fathering a child between courses in a restaurant broom cupboard are probably decisive favourable factors in most folks' books.
one of the two.
after ll, people love George Best snd fete upon his drinking and sausaging. Same for James Hunt. And that cricketerist who the English media celebrated because he turned up drunk at No. 10. What a jape! What a whheze! Geeza!
Or are they different because......The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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"Boring" is a wholly subjective term. If to not be boring you have to have spent a spell inside and indulged one's biological imperative whilst digesting one's steak and contemplating the cheeseboard then I guess G is boring by default.MattFalle said:
or a sign of being boring.wallace_and_gromit said:ugo.santalucia said:For what is worth, comparatively, Thomas and Becker are not a million miles apart.
Plus of course whatever one's sporting achievements, not spending a spell in chokie and not fathering a child between courses in a restaurant broom cupboard are probably decisive favourable factors in most folks' books.
one of the two.
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Ah yes, Schumacher and Vettel…seanoconn said:
Racing drivers off the top of my head.ugo.santalucia said:Could it be that in Germany they are short of sporting heroes?
Footy wins have always been the collective… they hardly had stars… maybe Gerd Muller and Beckenbauer… Matthaeus wasn’t… then they had some doped cyclists… who else?
Winter sports.
Winter sports… who?
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seriously?ugo.santalucia said:
Ah yes, Schumacher and Vettel…seanoconn said:
Racing drivers off the top of my head.ugo.santalucia said:Could it be that in Germany they are short of sporting heroes?
Footy wins have always been the collective… they hardly had stars… maybe Gerd Muller and Beckenbauer… Matthaeus wasn’t… then they had some doped cyclists… who else?
Winter sports.
Winter sports… who?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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yup. you said it.wallace_and_gromit said:
"Boring" is a wholly subjective term. If to not be boring you have to have spent a spell inside and indulged one's biological imperative whilst digesting one's steak and contemplating the cheeseboard then I guess G is boring by default.MattFalle said:
or a sign of being boring.wallace_and_gromit said:ugo.santalucia said:For what is worth, comparatively, Thomas and Becker are not a million miles apart.
Plus of course whatever one's sporting achievements, not spending a spell in chokie and not fathering a child between courses in a restaurant broom cupboard are probably decisive favourable factors in most folks' books.
one of the two..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Who?MattFalle said:
seriously?ugo.santalucia said:
Ah yes, Schumacher and Vettel…seanoconn said:
Racing drivers off the top of my head.ugo.santalucia said:Could it be that in Germany they are short of sporting heroes?
Footy wins have always been the collective… they hardly had stars… maybe Gerd Muller and Beckenbauer… Matthaeus wasn’t… then they had some doped cyclists… who else?
Winter sports.
Winter sports… who?
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Boring is good when it keeps you out of prison and saves you from public ridicule (and a massive paternity payment commitment).MattFalle said:
yup. you said it.wallace_and_gromit said:
"Boring" is a wholly subjective term. If to not be boring you have to have spent a spell inside and indulged one's biological imperative whilst digesting one's steak and contemplating the cheeseboard then I guess G is boring by default.MattFalle said:
or a sign of being boring.wallace_and_gromit said:ugo.santalucia said:For what is worth, comparatively, Thomas and Becker are not a million miles apart.
Plus of course whatever one's sporting achievements, not spending a spell in chokie and not fathering a child between courses in a restaurant broom cupboard are probably decisive favourable factors in most folks' books.
one of the two.
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check out luge, bobsleigh, biathlon..... all that kinda stuff.ugo.santalucia said:
Who?MattFalle said:
seriously?ugo.santalucia said:
Ah yes, Schumacher and Vettel…seanoconn said:
Racing drivers off the top of my head.ugo.santalucia said:Could it be that in Germany they are short of sporting heroes?
Footy wins have always been the collective… they hardly had stars… maybe Gerd Muller and Beckenbauer… Matthaeus wasn’t… then they had some doped cyclists… who else?
Winter sports.
Winter sports… who?
theres more to it than Torville & Dean..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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back onto tennis, Steffi Graf was quite good.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Because you have no interest in winter sport? Luge is a big sport in Germany in much the same way as speed skating is in the Netherlands. Probably much like cyclocross in Belgium.ugo.santalucia said:1 -
I did have an interest in winter sport... Tomba was big, but I can't possibly remember the name of a single bobsleigh, biathlete or skater...
Katharina Witt, now that it comes to think of it, wasn't she German? She was quite a big name...left the forum March 20230 -
Yep, same time as Becker... she was betterMattFalle said:back onto tennis, Steffi Graf was quite good.
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Yes, went on to do some acting and was also the second person (after Marilyn Monroe) to be the cover person on a sold out edition of Playboy.ugo.santalucia said:I did have an interest in winter sport... Tomba was big, but I can't possibly remember the name of a single bobsleigh, biathlete or skater...
Katharina Witt, now that it comes to think of it, wasn't she German? She was quite a big name...
From a similar era there was also Heike Drechsler, one of the greatest long jumpers of all time (and decent sprinter too) although East German athletes from that period have a big asterisk next to their name.
The Germans have had a fair few well known cyclists over the years too on both track and road. There are also a lot more footballers than those you mention such as Klinsman.
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Different tax advisors though. But her Dad and Becker probably shared tax accountants!ugo.santalucia said:
Yep, same time as Becker... she was betterMattFalle said:back onto tennis, Steffi Graf was quite good.
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Right, serious question.
Combine Becker & Graf's victories.
More between them two alone than all British tennerists combined?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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why do you say that?wallace_and_gromit said:
Different tax advisors though. But her Dad and Becker probably shared tax accountants!ugo.santalucia said:
Yep, same time as Becker... she was betterMattFalle said:back onto tennis, Steffi Graf was quite good.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Probably... even if you include Fred Perry, I guessMattFalle said:Right, serious question.
Combine Becker & Graf's victories.
More between them two alone than all British tennerists combined?left the forum March 20230
