The Big 'Let's sell our cars and take buses/ebikes instead' thread (warning: probably very dull)

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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,405

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The FO Big Tree (large horse chestnut) would make a good crows nest.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    When I started work in 1970 I would either walk or catch the bus. I did that for 5 years. However if I still lived in the same house I could do neither to get to that employer as despite having 2,000 staff they nor factory exist anymore.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    webboo said:

    When I started work in 1970 I would either walk or catch the bus. I did that for 5 years. However if I still lived in the same house I could do neither to get to that employer as despite having 2,000 staff they nor factory exist anymore.

    How many times did you fall over in your leather soled shoes? ;)
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The FO Big Tree (large horse chestnut) would make a good crows nest.
    That is a massive tree, if you have not already then get a tree surgeon to take a look, before a do-gooder applies for a TPO on your behalf
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    Why are people coming up with all these weird names for Stevo's man cave?
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167

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    MattFalle said:

    Stevo - Graham says you live in a shed 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    I was not making the assumption that the garage was attached to the house. If it's a separate garage, then without it storing a motor vehicle, it's a shed. If it is attached, then it's a room.
    My garage doesn't have a car in, but stores my bikes (and other stuff). If I posted a picture of it in the "show us your shed" thread, there would be many complaints because it's a garage.

    As much as I agree people should give up cars, I'm happy for garages to be continued to be called garages,
    I am also happy for garages to continue to be called garages.
    Does a timber garage turn into a shed if you put a lawnmower in it?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,405

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The FO Big Tree (large horse chestnut) would make a good crows nest.
    That is a massive tree, if you have not already then get a tree surgeon to take a look, before a do-gooder applies for a TPO on your behalf
    We've already had it reduced and braced. Looks like its been there over 200 years judging by the size of it, but the local authority has never applied for a TPO.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The FO Big Tree (large horse chestnut) would make a good crows nest.
    That is a massive tree, if you have not already then get a tree surgeon to take a look, before a do-gooder applies for a TPO on your behalf
    We've already had it reduced and braced. Looks like its been there over 200 years judging by the size of it, but the local authority has never applied for a TPO.
    Chop it down now then, think how much better it will be for the environment when you burn all that wood instead of oil. Plant a couple of saplings to replace it.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,405

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The one on the left is going to get pushed over by those trees.

    My initial thought was that the roots would be playing havoc with its foundations, so maybe raising it up to 1st floor level world solve that
    Oddly enough, it's not caused any problems like that and those garages have been there for a long time.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
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    MattFalle said:

    Stevo - Graham says you live in a shed 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    I was not making the assumption that the garage was attached to the house. If it's a separate garage, then without it storing a motor vehicle, it's a shed. If it is attached, then it's a room.
    My garage doesn't have a car in, but stores my bikes (and other stuff). If I posted a picture of it in the "show us your shed" thread, there would be many complaints because it's a garage.

    As much as I agree people should give up cars, I'm happy for garages to be continued to be called garages,
    I am also happy for garages to continue to be called garages.
    Does a timber garage turn into a shed if you put a lawnmower in it?
    If you took the lawnmower out, could you still put a car in it?
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The one on the left is going to get pushed over by those trees.

    My initial thought was that the roots would be playing havoc with its foundations, so maybe raising it up to 1st floor level world solve that
    Oddly enough, it's not caused any problems like that and those garages have been there for a long time.
    Hope it stays like that. The roots of a massive tree near one of the school buildings is lifting a concrete floor inside the building 15m away. Oops.
  • Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The one on the left is going to get pushed over by those trees.

    My initial thought was that the roots would be playing havoc with its foundations, so maybe raising it up to 1st floor level world solve that
    Oddly enough, it's not caused any problems like that and those garages have been there for a long time.
    There wouldn't be much in the way of foundations under there would there?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
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    pangolin said:

    Why are people coming up with all these weird names for Stevo's man cave?

    we thought it was a pain cave where the man with the hammer lived so Steve could Zwift race to hone his w/kg and FTP for the fast chain gang group?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,405
    edited January 2023
    Pross said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The FO Big Tree (large horse chestnut) would make a good crows nest.
    That is a massive tree, if you have not already then get a tree surgeon to take a look, before a do-gooder applies for a TPO on your behalf
    We've already had it reduced and braced. Looks like its been there over 200 years judging by the size of it, but the local authority has never applied for a TPO.
    Chop it down now then, think how much better it will be for the environment when you burn all that wood instead of oil. Plant a couple of saplings to replace it.
    I like it actually and think it looks rather impressive even with no leaves (in a non threatening sort of way now that we've had it cut back and braced). View from above:


    There are a few trees in the back garden that are fair game though.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087

    webboo said:

    When I started work in 1970 I would either walk or catch the bus. I did that for 5 years. However if I still lived in the same house I could do neither to get to that employer as despite having 2,000 staff they nor factory exist anymore.

    How many times did you fall over in your leather soled shoes? ;)
    I was going quite often as the Doc Martins I wore were lethal on wet grass. But thinking about I did also own 2 pairs of leather soled loafers and a pair of Royal brogues. I remember getting chased down the road at various football matches but not falling over.
    Maybe you could try some walking lessons.
  • webboo said:

    webboo said:

    When I started work in 1970 I would either walk or catch the bus. I did that for 5 years. However if I still lived in the same house I could do neither to get to that employer as despite having 2,000 staff they nor factory exist anymore.

    How many times did you fall over in your leather soled shoes? ;)
    I was going quite often as the Doc Martins I wore were lethal on wet grass. But thinking about I did also own 2 pairs of leather soled loafers and a pair of Royal brogues. I remember getting chased down the road at various football matches but not falling over.
    Maybe you could try some walking lessons.
    I am intrigued that you changed out of your DMs into a pair of loafers to have a ruck at the football
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087

    webboo said:

    webboo said:

    When I started work in 1970 I would either walk or catch the bus. I did that for 5 years. However if I still lived in the same house I could do neither to get to that employer as despite having 2,000 staff they nor factory exist anymore.

    How many times did you fall over in your leather soled shoes? ;)
    I was going quite often as the Doc Martins I wore were lethal on wet grass. But thinking about I did also own 2 pairs of leather soled loafers and a pair of Royal brogues. I remember getting chased down the road at various football matches but not falling over.
    Maybe you could try some walking lessons.
    I am intrigued that you changed out of your DMs into a pair of loafers to have a ruck at the football
    You need to right sort of footwear for the right fight. Things were very fashion conscious in those days, wrong clothes and the other side would refuse to beat you up.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,553
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The one on the left is going to get pushed over by those trees.

    My initial thought was that the roots would be playing havoc with its foundations, so maybe raising it up to 1st floor level world solve that
    Oddly enough, it's not caused any problems like that and those garages have been there for a long time.
    Best leave it alone then. Removing trees can cause as much movement as leaving them there. Mad to build so close to an established tree (roots will probably extend under both garages and out the other side, but nobody seemed to worry about foundations before the 1980s.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,405
    edited January 2023
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The one on the left is going to get pushed over by those trees.

    My initial thought was that the roots would be playing havoc with its foundations, so maybe raising it up to 1st floor level world solve that
    Oddly enough, it's not caused any problems like that and those garages have been there for a long time.
    Best leave it alone then. Removing trees can cause as much movement as leaving them there. Mad to build so close to an established tree (roots will probably extend under both garages and out the other side, but nobody seemed to worry about foundations before the 1980s.
    That's the plan. We had it reduced a bit (from 70ft to 60ft at a guess) but the main thing was the bracing - really didn't fancy one of the larger bits coming down while I'm sat here working :o

    Luckily the house is a decent distance away and a fair bit higher up.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,405
    edited January 2023

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The one on the left is going to get pushed over by those trees.

    My initial thought was that the roots would be playing havoc with its foundations, so maybe raising it up to 1st floor level world solve that
    Oddly enough, it's not caused any problems like that and those garages have been there for a long time.
    There wouldn't be much in the way of foundations under there would there?
    Doubt it - they're just garages.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,798

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    pblakeney said:

    Possibly in the sunlit fantasy world.
    Not so much in pissing January.

    I made it into work on my bike this morning, despite the pissing rain. People used to make it into work before there were cars. The bike is a viable alternative to cars for most commutes, not using a bike is a choice.
    He does that work for someone who lives too far from work to cycle? Or trades people who need to take tools and equipment with them? For example.
    Housing is part of the problem.

    And a bakfiets can carry a lot. Not a solution to everything, but certainly can carry a lot.
    Had to google a bakfiet. Call me a cynic, but there may be a reason why they haven't caught on with the trade, especially around this time of year...

    Very popular in holland with local tradesmen.



    A lot cheaper to run. No need to have to charge for the residents parking fee, no petrol etc etc. Usually have an electric motor so it's assisted too.

    Where are they going to sit from 10-11.30 and 12:30-2:30 whilst having a fag and reading the Sun/Daily Fail? I guess it might be easier for them to nip through the school traffic when they leave at 3pm?


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Bell ringing in my head, somewhere. Think I posted this before S666, poss when you were moving, but careful with the multistem structure on that big tree. Multistems can be prone to splitting apart, with obvious consequences. Though your tree surgeons, assuming experienced, should have assessed risk level.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    yes , exactly what O said above - was going to post exactly the same but he juuuuuust beat me to it.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The one on the left is going to get pushed over by those trees.

    My initial thought was that the roots would be playing havoc with its foundations, so maybe raising it up to 1st floor level world solve that
    Oddly enough, it's not caused any problems like that and those garages have been there for a long time.
    Best leave it alone then. Removing trees can cause as much movement as leaving them there. Mad to build so close to an established tree (roots will probably extend under both garages and out the other side, but nobody seemed to worry about foundations before the 1980s.
    That's the plan. We had it reduced a bit (from 70ft to 60ft at a guess) but the main thing was the bracing - really didn't fancy one of the larger bits coming down while I'm sat here working :o

    Luckily the house is a decent distance away and a fair bit higher up.
    Do you have a picture of the bracing?
  • webboo said:

    webboo said:

    webboo said:

    When I started work in 1970 I would either walk or catch the bus. I did that for 5 years. However if I still lived in the same house I could do neither to get to that employer as despite having 2,000 staff they nor factory exist anymore.

    How many times did you fall over in your leather soled shoes? ;)
    I was going quite often as the Doc Martins I wore were lethal on wet grass. But thinking about I did also own 2 pairs of leather soled loafers and a pair of Royal brogues. I remember getting chased down the road at various football matches but not falling over.
    Maybe you could try some walking lessons.
    I am intrigued that you changed out of your DMs into a pair of loafers to have a ruck at the football
    You need to right sort of footwear for the right fight. Things were very fashion conscious in those days, wrong clothes and the other side would refuse to beat you up.
    webboo said:

    webboo said:

    webboo said:

    When I started work in 1970 I would either walk or catch the bus. I did that for 5 years. However if I still lived in the same house I could do neither to get to that employer as despite having 2,000 staff they nor factory exist anymore.

    How many times did you fall over in your leather soled shoes? ;)
    I was going quite often as the Doc Martins I wore were lethal on wet grass. But thinking about I did also own 2 pairs of leather soled loafers and a pair of Royal brogues. I remember getting chased down the road at various football matches but not falling over.
    Maybe you could try some walking lessons.
    I am intrigued that you changed out of your DMs into a pair of loafers to have a ruck at the football
    You need to right sort of footwear for the right fight. Things were very fashion conscious in those days, wrong clothes and the other side would refuse to beat you up.
    That might explain my lack of action whilst prancing around in my knock off Burberry
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,405
    orraloon said:

    Bell ringing in my head, somewhere. Think I posted this before S666, poss when you were moving, but careful with the multistem structure on that big tree. Multistems can be prone to splitting apart, with obvious consequences. Though your tree surgeons, assuming experienced, should have assessed risk level.

    You did, ta Loon. Our tree people agreed as they put some decent bracing in place last month. They said no immediate risk but once its done we can relax.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,405
    edited January 2023

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?

    What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?
    Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!

    Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
    Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridge :)


    The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
    Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.
    It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.
    Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.
    What do you think I should make them look like?




    Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
    The one on the left is going to get pushed over by those trees.

    My initial thought was that the roots would be playing havoc with its foundations, so maybe raising it up to 1st floor level world solve that
    Oddly enough, it's not caused any problems like that and those garages have been there for a long time.
    Best leave it alone then. Removing trees can cause as much movement as leaving them there. Mad to build so close to an established tree (roots will probably extend under both garages and out the other side, but nobody seemed to worry about foundations before the 1980s.
    That's the plan. We had it reduced a bit (from 70ft to 60ft at a guess) but the main thing was the bracing - really didn't fancy one of the larger bits coming down while I'm sat here working :o

    Luckily the house is a decent distance away and a fair bit higher up.
    Do you have a picture of the bracing?
    I'll need to take some pics tomorrow. Its basically fairly chunky cables connecting pairs of the larger branches/stems (or whatever you call them) so that they act as counterweights to each other. Are you thinking of having something similar done?
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  • Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Possibly in the sunlit fantasy world.
    Not so much in pissing January.

    I made it into work on my bike this morning, despite the pissing rain. People used to make it into work before there were cars. The bike is a viable alternative to cars for most commutes, not using a bike is a choice.
    When you are in your late 60s with some kind of health issues remember it was you that said this. People used to generally live and work in the same place but that is rarely the case these days, people with disabilities and health issues used to also be pretty much excluded from being able to work. Then what if you do a job such as a care worker where you are covering maybe 50 miles or more in a day visiting various people, often without sufficient time to even drive between appointments. What if you are a construction worker who has been lugging stuff around all day on a site 30 miles from home or a shift worker finishing a 12 hour shift and having a 20 mile bike ride home.

    Not everything in life is black and white so don't be so sanctimonious. I used to cycle a 38 mile round trip to work, that doesn't mean I expect everyone else to be able to. Lots more people could do it but to suggest it's viable for most commutes is a stretch.
    I am in my early 60s and in good health, partly because I cycle to work. I expect to be in good health well into my 80s, by which time I probably shouldn't be driving a car.

    Much of your second paragraph is devoted to exceptionism, most commutes are less than 5 miles and most people start put one they get to work, a bicycle is a viable option for most commutes. If cars weren't an option there would be far more people doing shorter commutes, cars give people the freedom to live a long way from their workplace, to the detriment of the planet.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Possibly in the sunlit fantasy world.
    Not so much in pissing January.

    I made it into work on my bike this morning, despite the pissing rain. People used to make it into work before there were cars. The bike is a viable alternative to cars for most commutes, not using a bike is a choice.
    When you are in your late 60s with some kind of health issues remember it was you that said this. People used to generally live and work in the same place but that is rarely the case these days, people with disabilities and health issues used to also be pretty much excluded from being able to work. Then what if you do a job such as a care worker where you are covering maybe 50 miles or more in a day visiting various people, often without sufficient time to even drive between appointments. What if you are a construction worker who has been lugging stuff around all day on a site 30 miles from home or a shift worker finishing a 12 hour shift and having a 20 mile bike ride home.

    Not everything in life is black and white so don't be so sanctimonious. I used to cycle a 38 mile round trip to work, that doesn't mean I expect everyone else to be able to. Lots more people could do it but to suggest it's viable for most commutes is a stretch.
    I am in my early 60s and in good health, partly because I cycle to work. I expect to be in good health well into my 80s, by which time I probably shouldn't be driving a car.

    Much of your second paragraph is devoted to exceptionism, most commutes are less than 5 miles and most people start put one they get to work, a bicycle is a viable option for most commutes. If cars weren't an option there would be far more people doing shorter commutes, cars give people the freedom to live a long way from their workplace, to the detriment of the planet.
    Do you think people should move house when they move jobs?
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,553

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Possibly in the sunlit fantasy world.
    Not so much in pissing January.

    I made it into work on my bike this morning, despite the pissing rain. People used to make it into work before there were cars. The bike is a viable alternative to cars for most commutes, not using a bike is a choice.
    When you are in your late 60s with some kind of health issues remember it was you that said this. People used to generally live and work in the same place but that is rarely the case these days, people with disabilities and health issues used to also be pretty much excluded from being able to work. Then what if you do a job such as a care worker where you are covering maybe 50 miles or more in a day visiting various people, often without sufficient time to even drive between appointments. What if you are a construction worker who has been lugging stuff around all day on a site 30 miles from home or a shift worker finishing a 12 hour shift and having a 20 mile bike ride home.

    Not everything in life is black and white so don't be so sanctimonious. I used to cycle a 38 mile round trip to work, that doesn't mean I expect everyone else to be able to. Lots more people could do it but to suggest it's viable for most commutes is a stretch.
    I am in my early 60s and in good health, partly because I cycle to work. I expect to be in good health well into my 80s, by which time I probably shouldn't be driving a car.

    Much of your second paragraph is devoted to exceptionism, most commutes are less than 5 miles and most people start put one they get to work, a bicycle is a viable option for most commutes. If cars weren't an option there would be far more people doing shorter commutes, cars give people the freedom to live a long way from their workplace, to the detriment of the planet.
    Do you think people should move house when they move jobs?
    Depends on the job. Doesn't seem that unreasonable if the job requires you to be nearby - e.g. any kind of on call service. But again we all seem to be stuck on absolutism. If you can think of one case where it won't work then write off the idea for everyone.
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