The Big 'Let's sell our cars and take buses/ebikes instead' thread (warning: probably very dull)
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I imagine there is a minimum size but cars have got bigger.Munsford0 said:
Is there not a minimum size a garage can be? Problem's only going to get worse as more people choose pointlessly bloated SUV type things....pblakeney said:
Funnily enough most new houses in the expansion around here come with an attached "garage". They are too small to fit most cars in and open the doors. Ultimately owners have to pay to convert them to rooms. Madness.
An old Mini would fit, but not a new one as potential example.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!0 -
how bike centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your bike in it?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
or washing machine centric?
or gym centric?
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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because he's only ever been in house with attached garages.Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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My garage doesn't have a car in, but stores my bikes (and other stuff). If I posted a picture of it in the "show us your shed" thread, there would be many complaints because it's a garage.kingstongraham said:.
I was not making the assumption that the garage was attached to the house. If it's a separate garage, then without it storing a motor vehicle, it's a shed. If it is attached, then it's a room.MattFalle said:Stevo - Graham says you live in a shed 🤣🤣🤣🤣
As much as I agree people should give up cars, I'm happy for garages to be continued to be called garages,0 -
i wonder how ANGRY Rick would bd if he hadout we hsd multiple rooms just for sleeping in
#sleepcentric.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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shed 1 or shed 2?TheBigBean said:
My garage doesn't have a car in, but stores my bikes (and other stuff). If I posted a picture of it in the "show us your shed" thread, there would be many complaints because it's a garage.kingstongraham said:.
I was not making the assumption that the garage was attached to the house. If it's a separate garage, then without it storing a motor vehicle, it's a shed. If it is attached, then it's a room.MattFalle said:Stevo - Graham says you live in a shed 🤣🤣🤣🤣
As much as I agree people should give up cars, I'm happy for garages to be continued to be called garages,
#goodoldtimes.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridgerick_chasey said:
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
The other one is for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as it's nice and safe here."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
he has enough rooms to get, how do you say "lairy with his mates" althoughthat is a very Sunak ingratiating turn of phrase, without bothering his family.rick_chasey said:
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.Stevo_666 said:
Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridgerick_chasey said:
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.0 -
I am also happy for garages to continue to be called garages.TheBigBean said:
My garage doesn't have a car in, but stores my bikes (and other stuff). If I posted a picture of it in the "show us your shed" thread, there would be many complaints because it's a garage.kingstongraham said:.
I was not making the assumption that the garage was attached to the house. If it's a separate garage, then without it storing a motor vehicle, it's a shed. If it is attached, then it's a room.MattFalle said:Stevo - Graham says you live in a shed 🤣🤣🤣🤣
As much as I agree people should give up cars, I'm happy for garages to be continued to be called garages,0 -
When you are in your late 60s with some kind of health issues remember it was you that said this. People used to generally live and work in the same place but that is rarely the case these days, people with disabilities and health issues used to also be pretty much excluded from being able to work. Then what if you do a job such as a care worker where you are covering maybe 50 miles or more in a day visiting various people, often without sufficient time to even drive between appointments. What if you are a construction worker who has been lugging stuff around all day on a site 30 miles from home or a shift worker finishing a 12 hour shift and having a 20 mile bike ride home.davebradswmb said:
I made it into work on my bike this morning, despite the pissing rain. People used to make it into work before there were cars. The bike is a viable alternative to cars for most commutes, not using a bike is a choice.pblakeney said:Possibly in the sunlit fantasy world.
Not so much in pissing January.
Not everything in life is black and white so don't be so sanctimonious. I used to cycle a 38 mile round trip to work, that doesn't mean I expect everyone else to be able to. Lots more people could do it but to suggest it's viable for most commutes is a stretch.1 -
Still not travelling by bike like this guy wants everyone to do because he does though.rjsterry said:
Sure, but they all arrive in one van, not four individual vans. Additional labour doesn't require additional motorised transport because they won't be carrying materials or any large tools.Stevo_666 said:
My point is about the tools and materials they need to bring to the job. Pretty much all needs motorised transport.rjsterry said:
Kent is more cut off than I realised 😀Stevo_666 said:
Had to google a bakfiet. Call me a cynic, but there may be a reason why they haven't caught on with the trade, especially around this time of year...rick_chasey said:
Housing is part of the problem.Stevo_666 said:
He does that work for someone who lives too far from work to cycle? Or trades people who need to take tools and equipment with them? For example.davebradswmb said:
I made it into work on my bike this morning, despite the pissing rain. People used to make it into work before there were cars. The bike is a viable alternative to cars for most commutes, not using a bike is a choice.pblakeney said:Possibly in the sunlit fantasy world.
Not so much in pissing January.
And a bakfiets can carry a lot. Not a solution to everything, but certainly can carry a lot.
Pretty much the entire London construction industry works without private cars because there's nowhere to put them. A typical small contractor has maybe a couple of vans. Labour arrives by public transport (you see plenty of guys with their small tools on the tube) and plant and materials are delivered direct.
Also we're not in London
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It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.kingstongraham said:
Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.Stevo_666 said:
Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridgerick_chasey said:
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
See Rick, you should either be working in Cambridge or living in London so you don't have to moan about public transport anymore. It's all a choice.davebradswmb said:
For most people the distance from home to work is also a choice they have made, based upon being able to drive there. If this was not an option they would make a different choice.Stevo_666 said:He does that work for someone who lives too far from work to cycle? Or trades people who need to take tools and equipment with them? For example.
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Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.Stevo_666 said:
It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.kingstongraham said:
Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.Stevo_666 said:
Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridgerick_chasey said:
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.0 -
I dunno. I've never assumed he meant *everyone*, just those that could. There's still plenty of those even where there's plentiful public transport.Pross said:
Still not travelling by bike like this guy wants everyone to do because he does though.rjsterry said:
Sure, but they all arrive in one van, not four individual vans. Additional labour doesn't require additional motorised transport because they won't be carrying materials or any large tools.Stevo_666 said:
My point is about the tools and materials they need to bring to the job. Pretty much all needs motorised transport.rjsterry said:
Kent is more cut off than I realised 😀Stevo_666 said:
Had to google a bakfiet. Call me a cynic, but there may be a reason why they haven't caught on with the trade, especially around this time of year...rick_chasey said:
Housing is part of the problem.Stevo_666 said:
He does that work for someone who lives too far from work to cycle? Or trades people who need to take tools and equipment with them? For example.davebradswmb said:
I made it into work on my bike this morning, despite the pissing rain. People used to make it into work before there were cars. The bike is a viable alternative to cars for most commutes, not using a bike is a choice.pblakeney said:Possibly in the sunlit fantasy world.
Not so much in pissing January.
And a bakfiets can carry a lot. Not a solution to everything, but certainly can carry a lot.
Pretty much the entire London construction industry works without private cars because there's nowhere to put them. A typical small contractor has maybe a couple of vans. Labour arrives by public transport (you see plenty of guys with their small tools on the tube) and plant and materials are delivered direct.
Also we're not in London1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
What do you think I should make them look like?kingstongraham said:
Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.Stevo_666 said:
It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.kingstongraham said:
Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.Stevo_666 said:
Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridgerick_chasey said:
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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.rjsterry said:
I dunno. I've never assumed he meant *everyone*, just those that could. There's still plenty of those even where there's plentiful public transport.Pross said:
Still not travelling by bike like this guy wants everyone to do because he does though.rjsterry said:
Sure, but they all arrive in one van, not four individual vans. Additional labour doesn't require additional motorised transport because they won't be carrying materials or any large tools.Stevo_666 said:
My point is about the tools and materials they need to bring to the job. Pretty much all needs motorised transport.rjsterry said:
Kent is more cut off than I realised 😀Stevo_666 said:
Had to google a bakfiet. Call me a cynic, but there may be a reason why they haven't caught on with the trade, especially around this time of year...rick_chasey said:
Housing is part of the problem.Stevo_666 said:
He does that work for someone who lives too far from work to cycle? Or trades people who need to take tools and equipment with them? For example.davebradswmb said:
I made it into work on my bike this morning, despite the pissing rain. People used to make it into work before there were cars. The bike is a viable alternative to cars for most commutes, not using a bike is a choice.pblakeney said:Possibly in the sunlit fantasy world.
Not so much in pissing January.
And a bakfiets can carry a lot. Not a solution to everything, but certainly can carry a lot.
Pretty much the entire London construction industry works without private cars because there's nowhere to put them. A typical small contractor has maybe a couple of vans. Labour arrives by public transport (you see plenty of guys with their small tools on the tube) and plant and materials are delivered direct.
Also we're not in London
The original post. I made a bit bold.
.davebradswmb said:
I made it into work on my bike this morning, despite the pissing rain. People used to make it into work before there were cars. The bike is a viable alternative to cars for most commutes, not using a bike is a choice.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.2 -
Stevo_666 said:
What do you think I should make them look like?kingstongraham said:
Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.Stevo_666 said:
It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.kingstongraham said:
Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.Stevo_666 said:
Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridgerick_chasey said:
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.0 -
When my dad got his job at the power station in 1960 we moved to the newly built council estate 2 miles away. He cycled to / from work in all weathers and often at antisocial hours because of shift patterns. He remained in the job till he retired, and in the house till he died at nearly 92. As a family we never had a car so if you couldn't get somewhere by bike, bus or train, we didn't go.
Life's not like that any more for most people. Local authorities aren't building affordable housing close to major employers any more, and job security is pretty variable.
In my working life I've worked for several different companies and survived four mergers / acquisitions. If we'd moved house every time I changed jobs or companies or locations we'd have spent more on estate agents fees and removals than on mortgage payments, and the kids would have been uprooted from friends and schools repeatedly. Several times for the sake of the family I've endured a cross-country commute of 50 miles each way, but not regretted it since a subsequent change of site then brought me nearer home. None of those journeys would have been remotely practical by public transport. On the plus side I did a lot of lift sharing because there were frequently other people in the same situation.
Made redundant at 63 I got a job in school just 8 flattish miles away. At the interview I asked if there was secure bike parking. There is, but 3 years on I still haven't plucked up the courage / energy to cycle in....
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The one on the left is going to get pushed over by those trees.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
What do you think I should make them look like?kingstongraham said:
Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.Stevo_666 said:
It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.kingstongraham said:
Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.Stevo_666 said:
Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridgerick_chasey said:
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
rjsterry said:
The one on the left is going to get pushed over by those trees.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
What do you think I should make them look like?kingstongraham said:
Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.Stevo_666 said:
It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.kingstongraham said:
Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.Stevo_666 said:
Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridgerick_chasey said:
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
My initial thought was that the roots would be playing havoc with its foundations, so maybe raising it up to 1st floor level world solve that0 -
University rowing club boat houses?Stevo_666 said:
What do you think I should make them look like?kingstongraham said:
Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.Stevo_666 said:
It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.kingstongraham said:
Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.Stevo_666 said:
Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridgerick_chasey said:
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.1 -
More of a back garden project, but looks good.kingstongraham said:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Just cut the tree down then use it in the log burner.rjsterry said:
The one on the left is going to get pushed over by those trees.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
What do you think I should make them look like?kingstongraham said:
Everyone loves the look of a garage - there's a lot of mock-garage architecture around.Stevo_666 said:
It's an office disguised as a garage...from the outside at least.kingstongraham said:
Maybe that used to be a garage, but it's not a garage.Stevo_666 said:
Funny you mention that, as one is my work from home office and I'm sitting in it now. Got a beer fridgerick_chasey said:
Turn them into rooms! Nice bar to get lairy with your mates with without bugging the family? Come on man!Stevo_666 said:
What makes you think either of my garages are in my house?rick_chasey said:How care centric do you have to be to give up a room in your house to put your car in it?
Cars are supposed to be waterproof!
The other one for for garden furniture, tools, that sort of stuff. Cars are on the drive as its nice and safe here.
Tree houses, ground floor, obvs.
The house my daughter bought has got a garage in the parking court down the road. The estate agent wasn't sure which was hers at the time she looked around. Once she eventually saw the deeds it turned out to be one that has a tree growing through it.0
Actually got one of those as well - its called the wife's car. 
