Le Tour de Femmes, race chat
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Longborghini really paying for that solo effort"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Avv finishes Grand Ballon with 5Km left, Vollering +3mins37, Niewiadoma +6mins.================
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The bits of team radio aren't exactly revealing "go on, do the best you can"1
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Opportunity missed"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Tough day ."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Women's cycling needs more armchair DSing from old fans typing "what the hell were you thinking " on the internet and tactic shaming their DS'sPross said:The bits of team radio aren't exactly revealing "go on, do the best you can"
Aside from that it's good .
Stage 4 on the gravel lost vollering the tour"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
To keep Ddraver happy, AvV won having ridden away on the first climb. Vollering held on to take second having stayed with her to nearly the top of the second climb nearly 4 minutes behind and CUL took third in a sprint from a group of 3 over 5 minutes down. The rest will hopefully finish in time to get to the start line tomorrow as the Lanterne Rouge is being hottly contested.1
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No it didn't. Van Vleuten wouldn't have lost more than a minutemididoctors said:
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Gaps after 7 stages and one mountain stage is basically the same as the men's was after 3 weeks which in itself seemed quite big. Hopefully there'll become greater strength in depth as the women's sport gets more professional.1
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Hardly surprising given how much more slowly the women climb.Pross said:Gaps after 7 stages and one mountain stage is basically the same as the men's was after 3 weeks which in itself seemed quite big. Hopefully there'll become greater strength in depth as the women's sport gets more professional.
It probably wasn't that accurate, but on the Platzerwasel they were showing a 9-10% gradient (which would certainly be there or there abouts) and AvV's speed at between 10-12kph (questionable). If right, that's 5-6 minutes per km."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
The most positive thing is despite the large crowds we haven’t had any knob heads running along side the riders.3
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The Tour de France for women concludes with a 123 kilometres race with two major climbs before reaching the base of La Planche des Belles Filles. The steep climb receives the prefix 'Super', as with the men's Tour, the last kilometre is unpaved.
The Ballon d’Alsace is a steady 9 kilometres climb at 6.9% on a road with wide hairpins.
La Planche des Belles Filles with the prefix Super is a 7 kilometres toil at 8.7%. At 9.5% the last kilometre is not only the steepest part, it also runs on unpaved surface. The last 100 metres are on tarmac though. Beginning with a energy-sapping ramp at 24%, the final kick up is too steep for gravel.
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Longo Borghini, as in, back in the distant past Mr Longo married Mrs Borghini.mididoctors said:Longborghini really paying for that solo effort
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it is a bit like men's racing circa 1970. If you watch something like the Stars and the Water Carriers the racing is very similar. A dutch speaker off the front and a rag tag bunch of guys following along behind.andyrac said:I think this stage highlights that women's cycling tends to favour all rounders; rider who can sprint, do short punchy climbs, etc Very few are proper climbers - will be interesting to see how this develops in future.
The racing doesn't seem to develop much, I've been watching since the early 2000s and not much has changed. You probably have to accept it for what it is. Still Evita Muzic recently took "my" kom on the climb right by my house, so they are a lot better than me.
The commentary needs to improve too - I get the impression they don't really know who a lot of the riders are. Jaja on French TV is bad - why is he even doing the commentary?BASI Nordic Ski Instructor
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Longo Borghini, as in, back in the distant past Mr Longo married Mrs Borghini.mididoctors said:Longborghini really paying for that solo effort
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davidof said:
Longo Borghini, as in, back in the distant past Mr Longo married Mrs Borghini.mididoctors said:Longborghini really paying for that solo effort
Quite. This is a Longborghini
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Hate to say it but I don't think this race has worked. Whether it's the format or just the way the racing has worked out - I suspect a bit of both.
I can understand why they've left the two likely decisive stages til last but not convinced leaving the GC battle to so late in the race really works - then the way yesterday played out...an historic performance but for me not great viewing.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
I'm not much of a pro mens race watcher besides July in recent years, this tour is a first as regards watching the women, but it seems poor planning to have this renaissance tour so soon (two weeks) after the Giro Donne.
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It's a bit of a Catch 22. As there aren't enough of this type of stage race (or properly mountainous races in general) there aren't the riders to create exciting racing but without bringing in more of these races the type of riders it suits won't come through the ranks.
I think it needs a good 10 year run to give it a decent chance to succeed. Possibly should have had a long TT to balance the climbing. That said I can't be bothered to watch today.2 -
Most worrying of all for me is the situation in the young riders competition, as it's the best pointer to any potential rising stars and their ability to boost the much needed strength in depth within the women's peloton.
In men's GTs, the biggest time gap over the past 3 years was at this year's Giro. Lopez finished at 18'- 40" to Hindley. That's after 21 stages. As with the Tour, the Giros two previous editions were won by riders who were also eligible in both categories.
In this race, after 7 stages, the leader of the white jersey competition is already a whopping 19'-10" adrift of soon to be 40 year old, AvV."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I think the timing stems from wanting to do the Paris stage. There was no option other than to do that the day the men finished as shutting Paris for another day might have been a stretch.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:I'm not much of a pro mens race watcher besides July in recent years, this tour is a first as regards watching the women, but it seems poor planning to have this renaissance tour so soon (two weeks) after the Giro Donne.
Mens Giro was back in May and Vuelta starts on 19th August after almost four weeks since TDF.
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I suppose the saving grace is the dominant rider is due to retire next year so the playing field will be levelled but in a downward direction.
I think traditionally the lack of a properly professional career path has meant the women tend to do other things first such as higher education and other careers which may affect that young rider progression.0 -
What women's racing needs is more of us watching criticizing it ..."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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SDW need a good talking too"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Surely discussion is worthwhile? The fact it is being discussed and the race has its own thread is progress. It was similar with women's football a decade ago and that has made huge strides forward now. Cricket and rugby are getting there too.mididoctors said:What women's racing needs is more of us watching criticizing it ...
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Yes what we are doing right now is good . ..see that there where you typed ...that was good ..and this other part where I typed ...that was good too 😊Pross said:
Surely discussion is worthwhile? The fact it is being discussed and the race has its own thread is progress. It was similar with women's football a decade ago and that has made huge strides forward now. Cricket and rugby are getting there too.mididoctors said:What women's racing needs is more of us watching criticizing it ...
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All together still . No break"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
