Prime Carbon Wheels
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Cool. Thanks for that. I never knew..........ugo.santalucia said:
Once you get in the 80 mm range, you really can tell the difference, suddenly there isn't very much light in the middle.... difficult to tell a 40 from a 50 and a 50 from a 60, but 80 are obvious. In fairness, my club use CTT rules, so I'd be fine, but I do other events on occasionsMattFalle said:Rules, eh...... Who'd have 'em.
65mm is still a nice depth but not as whoooomphy or fast as 85s.
Can you not just get an 85 and write 65mm on it in Tippex?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Last night's 25 was a bit of an adventure... an hour of solid rain on the A45 combined with cross winds... I was glad I didn't have the extra hassle of deep carbon rims to be honest. I was hoping for a 1:02, but given the circumstances I can't complain.... this morning I found a good glass of water inside the rear rim
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Extra hassle of deep tims,?
Eh?
Going to race.
Check forecast
Change front wheel if necessary.
Job jobbed.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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In case you're still interested and haven't already noticed, both the 20 and 24 hole rims are now £175.99.ugo.santalucia said:Talked to Wiggle, no discount on the 20H.. nobody knows why it is more expensive, surely it comes west by land via Ukraine, whereas the 24H rolls on by sea...
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I have noticed… I have gone a bit cold on those. Last night I lost the 25 roadmans by 39 and 41 seconds on the guys immediately above me… wouldn’t have gained 39 and seconds with those I would think…left the forum March 20230
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But the whoosing?0
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I can’t hear it when I am pushing… I am more alert about lorries coming up from the back. Just in case I can pick their slipstream 😂shirley_basso said:But the whoosing?
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Still keeping an eye on the 38's but they are never in stock.
50's now OOS as well.0 -
But what if next time you lose by 10 and 15 seconds?ugo.santalucia said:I have noticed… I have gone a bit cold on those. Last night I lost the 25 roadmans by 39 and 41 seconds on the guys immediately above me… wouldn’t have gained 39 and seconds with those I would think…
Then you'll be sorry, i'll tell you that much..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Looking at the power numbers, I only averaged 237W for the hour and the guy ahead of me did 256 and he is not a big guy, so it could well be that his 808 Zipps are not that aero after all... he also had a skinsuit and overshoes (which I did not wear in the "spirit" of the roadmans rules...). I wouldn't be at all surprised if anything but the flattest courses turned out a disadvantage with big heavy rims.... most of our courses have drags or short bumpsMattFalle said:
But what if next time you lose by 10 and 15 seconds?ugo.santalucia said:I have noticed… I have gone a bit cold on those. Last night I lost the 25 roadmans by 39 and 41 seconds on the guys immediately above me… wouldn’t have gained 39 and seconds with those I would think…
Then you'll be sorry, i'll tell you that much.left the forum March 20230 -
Anyone got any experience with any version of the Black Edition rim wheelsets?
Just considering if they are worth the extra.
Would probably looking at the 38’s or the 50’s.0 -
Thats what MF has on his S3. 90 version, tubular.
Can't fault them for the money: spin up really nicely, very nicely made, straight n true out of the box and a thousand km (or 762 Ariane Grandes) still perfect.
Black decals are all discreet, come with nice skewers, spare spokes, sll the schizzle that marketing needs nowadays (little card "signed" by the bloke who built them, that jazz)
Most importantly, make a mega whooosh whooosh whoooooom.
For the money, can't be faulted..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Top stuff cheers.
Purely on aesthetics I think they are really smart looking. No other reason than that & weight saving I was considering them.
I guess the “normal” 38’s or 50’s would be fine but I keep going back to these.
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Yeah, go on - you may as well.ibr17xvii said:Top stuff cheers.
Purely on aesthetics I think they are really smart looking. No other reason than that & weight saving I was considering them.
I guess the “normal” 38’s or 50’s would be fine but I keep going back to these.
Very tempted.
Summer is here and the new wheels are calling.....The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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MattFalle said:
Yeah, go on - you may as well.ibr17xvii said:Top stuff cheers.
Purely on aesthetics I think they are really smart looking. No other reason than that & weight saving I was considering them.
I guess the “normal” 38’s or 50’s would be fine but I keep going back to these.
Very tempted.
Summer is here and the new wheels are calling....
They’ve been calling for quite a while TBH but stock has been short especially on the “normal” 38’s & 50’s. I’ve had my eye on them for ages.0 -
Well if they are in stock now best go for it before they are out of stock and you can't get them anymore and you regret it forever, much like MF and TDSFR.
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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"a thousand km (or 762 Ariane Grandes) "
Is she really 1.3 km long??1 -
Its actually 909 AGs. I must had a #brainfart.
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Prime RR-50 V3 Disc sets for ~£500 showing in stock at wiggle and CRC.
Merlin have their own v1 50mm disc still at ~£500 before loyalty discount, which are 6-bolt rotor and 50mm at both ends. 1825g.
Merlin v2s are ~£550 and are centrelock rotor, plus bizarrely imo 40mm front (where you really see aero benefits) and 50mm rear.1760g.
The Merlin sets are 24/28 spokes, the Primes are 24/24.
Part of me has fancied one of the above for a year or two, but I'm very wary of spending that sort of cash and having another failure like my £400 set rear (MF friendly story as told
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With the DT Swiss deals that have been at Merlin for a months, albeit on shallow rims, I've been tempted to play it safe with a set of them.
Or alternatively, given how my Cube is very much not an aero weapon with 610mm stack and saddle top to bar tops drop of ~3cm with default stem as low as it can go, perhaps get a pair of those alloy Vision 35 disc sets at Merlin for ~£200. https://www.merlincycles.com/vision-team-35-disc-clincher-road-wheelset-179495.html================
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I realise I'm setting myself up for a fall here with certain members of the forum ( @MattFalle ) but either way here goes:
The Prime RR38 Black Editions are £749.99 & the Hunt 36 Carbon Wide Aero are £699 - the Primes are slightly lighter but apart from that they appear pretty similar to my untrained eyes & in all probability come from the same factory somewhere in the far east.
In view of that why would I pay the extra £50 for the Primes?0 -
The usual comments about the Hunts aren't that they are bad wheels, just a little expensive compared to some others for what are broadly similar products. If they are £50 cheaper go for it, unless you think 2mm is worth an extra £50 that is.0
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The primes were a lot cheaper when I bought them.1
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veronese68 said:
The usual comments about the Hunts aren't that they are bad wheels, just a little expensive compared to some others for what are broadly similar products. If they are £50 cheaper go for it, unless you think 2mm is worth an extra £50 that is.
The Primes are lighter which is more of a consideration than the 2mm depth.
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I think I said it earlier in the thread but the base Primes are amazing value, especially when on discount, very rare to get a quality set of carbon wheels from a UK seller for c£500.ibr17xvii said:I realise I'm setting myself up for a fall here with certain members of the forum ( @MattFalle ) but either way here goes:
The Prime RR38 Black Editions are £749.99 & the Hunt 36 Carbon Wide Aero are £699 - the Primes are slightly lighter but apart from that they appear pretty similar to my untrained eyes & in all probability come from the same factory somewhere in the far east.
In view of that why would I pay the extra £50 for the Primes?
Once you bump up Black Edition, then the market gets way more competitive, and you start getting into the price range of Hunt, Scribe, Parcours, or even handbuilts or Zipp 303s.
Black editions are very good wheels and I would be perfectly happy with them but I don't think they are substantially better than others in that price range, including Hunts...2 -
super_davo said:
I think I said it earlier in the thread but the base Primes are amazing value, especially when on discount, very rare to get a quality set of carbon wheels from a UK seller for c£500.ibr17xvii said:I realise I'm setting myself up for a fall here with certain members of the forum ( @MattFalle ) but either way here goes:
The Prime RR38 Black Editions are £749.99 & the Hunt 36 Carbon Wide Aero are £699 - the Primes are slightly lighter but apart from that they appear pretty similar to my untrained eyes & in all probability come from the same factory somewhere in the far east.
In view of that why would I pay the extra £50 for the Primes?
Once you bump up Black Edition, then the market gets way more competitive, and you start getting into the price range of Hunt, Scribe, Parcours, or even handbuilts or Zipp 303s.
Black editions are very good wheels and I would be perfectly happy with them but I don't think they are substantially better than others in that price range, including Hunts...
If I'm honest I'm still undecided between the "normal" edition & the Black Edition but then I thought if I was gonna get the Black Editions the Hunts are cheaper so they would make sense as well.
The Black Editions are currently another £300 than the normal editions which seems an awful lot for 150g although I guess the components will be better. The Black Editions look better IMHO which is worth something I suppose.
Like you say at the approx £500 price mark there aren't that many competitors but at the £700 - £850 / £900 there are a few contenders.0 -
I'd go for the normal primes and eat less, or eat better.
Have 50mm primes for a while, they are 100%. Might get 38s next though.1 -
The black edition have bladed spokes... don't see the point of going for deep rims and then having round spokes... bladed spokes are notoriously expensiveleft the forum March 20230
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Yup and so have the £50 cheaper Hunts (and all the others in the same price range).ugo.santalucia said:The black edition have bladed spokes... don't see the point of going for deep rims and then having round spokes... bladed spokes are notoriously expensive
Bladed vs round spokes will make a difference, but a tiny one and certainly nowhere near of the level of a modern wide deep section rim vs standard aluminium shallow rim. If you want to get aero, most people will have lower hanging fruit to spend that £250 difference in price over the base models on on e.g. clothing, handlebars etc.0
