Prime Carbon Wheels

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  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,684

    ibr17xvii said:

    I’ve a set on my summer bike. They’re decent aero wise once you get going, not too twitchy with gusts (we get lots of those in Norfolk!). The one downside is braking in the wet (I have rim brakes) in that they’re virtually useless when proper wet. Once got caught in a heavy downpour which rendered my brake levers pretty much pointless. Check the met office app carefully I guess!

    MattFalle said:

    I’ve a set on my summer bike. They’re decent aero wise once you get going, not too twitchy with gusts (we get lots of those in Norfolk!). The one downside is braking in the wet (I have rim brakes) in that they’re virtually useless when proper wet. Once got caught in a heavy downpour which rendered my brake levers pretty much pointless. Check the met office app carefully I guess!

    that may well be down to brakepad choice tbh - its the first time anyone has said tbat about Primes

    What pads do you have?

    I see they get supplied with some but I've used Swissstop for ages & was thinking of a pair of them.


    Like i said - normal conditions they’re perfectly good.
    That’s not what you said.
    Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited April 2022
    and, tbh, to allay the fears of the discites, they are also fine in the rain.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • kingrollo
    kingrollo Posts: 3,198
    MattFalle said:

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    kingrollo said:

    MattFalle said:

    Sweeeeet.

    pics on bike by c.o.p today please.

    Bike frame on order. So no pictures yet.
    what ya getting dude?

    what groupset?

    we neeeeeeeeeeeed to know!
    Dolan Tuono Disc is the frame.

    transferring the stuff over from a Di2 bike - with a poorly frame.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    oooh - new bike time!

    remember to keep us updated with pics.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • seanoconn said:

    ibr17xvii said:

    I’ve a set on my summer bike. They’re decent aero wise once you get going, not too twitchy with gusts (we get lots of those in Norfolk!). The one downside is braking in the wet (I have rim brakes) in that they’re virtually useless when proper wet. Once got caught in a heavy downpour which rendered my brake levers pretty much pointless. Check the met office app carefully I guess!

    MattFalle said:

    I’ve a set on my summer bike. They’re decent aero wise once you get going, not too twitchy with gusts (we get lots of those in Norfolk!). The one downside is braking in the wet (I have rim brakes) in that they’re virtually useless when proper wet. Once got caught in a heavy downpour which rendered my brake levers pretty much pointless. Check the met office app carefully I guess!

    that may well be down to brakepad choice tbh - its the first time anyone has said tbat about Primes

    What pads do you have?

    I see they get supplied with some but I've used Swissstop for ages & was thinking of a pair of them.


    Like i said - normal conditions they’re perfectly good.
    That’s not what you said.
    Oh good grief really? You must be fun at parties.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,652
    Am I right in thinking if I get the primes and have 6 bolt discs currently, then I need one of these (well, 2 of one of them) to convert my rotors?

    https://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-6-bolt-to-centrelock-adaptor-rtad05
    https://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-centre-lock-adaptor

    Would get Merlin to avoid it but don't accept cyclescheme.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    May well come in the box tbh

    if in doubt, just drop them a line.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • kingrollo
    kingrollo Posts: 3,198


    Here you go. Yes I know about the saddle - old injury.
    Looks a bit stealthy for an old man !
  • kingrollo
    kingrollo Posts: 3,198

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Saddle schmaddle - looking groovy! Top work that man!
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,652
    Well I got a cyclsescheme voucher to get some prime wheels and by the time it arrived they'd gone up £100 to £600.

    Any recommendations for a wheelset in stock from somewhere that accepts cyclesheme?
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • ibr17xvii
    ibr17xvii Posts: 1,065
    pangolin said:

    Well I got a cyclsescheme voucher to get some prime wheels and by the time it arrived they'd gone up £100 to £600.

    Any recommendations for a wheelset in stock from somewhere that accepts cyclesheme?


    I've been watching these for weeks & they are yet to come back into stock.

    The more expensive Black edition 28's are in stock if that's any use to you?

    https://chainreactioncycles.com//prime-blackedition-28-carbon-wheelset/rp-prod166634?utm_source=customer-emails&utm_medium=stock-email&utm_campaign=backinstock
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,652
    ibr17xvii said:

    pangolin said:

    Well I got a cyclsescheme voucher to get some prime wheels and by the time it arrived they'd gone up £100 to £600.

    Any recommendations for a wheelset in stock from somewhere that accepts cyclesheme?


    I've been watching these for weeks & they are yet to come back into stock.

    The more expensive Black edition 28's are in stock if that's any use to you?

    https://chainreactioncycles.com//prime-blackedition-28-carbon-wheelset/rp-prod166634?utm_source=customer-emails&utm_medium=stock-email&utm_campaign=backinstock
    Sorry should have said, bike has disc brakes.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,317
    I was looking at them yesterday... I think the cheaper ones have double butted spokes, as opposed to aero spokes, which is a bit of a let down... but then again, they are still very good value at 500 quid or so. For aero spokes, you need the Black Edition ones
    left the forum March 2023
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Would tbere actuslly be any noticeable difference though?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    MattFalle said:

    Would tbere actuslly be any noticeable difference though?

    Of course. Your head will think "oo, bladed spokes, wheels will go more whoosh" and thus, there is more whoosh.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,317
    MattFalle said:

    Would tbere actuslly be any noticeable difference though?

    The point is that if you invest in deep carbon rims, you do so for the speed (or at least I would)... so you would also like bladed spokes.
    I guess I'll keep trying to get my back stretched out lower... :/
    left the forum March 2023
  • beansnikpoh
    beansnikpoh Posts: 1,533
    On my Prime black 60s, I can cycle at 60 kph for about 4 hours. Never popped a spoke.

    On my previous Prime RR 50s, I could only cycle at 15 kph for 17 minutes. I also popped a spoke once.

    Seriously though, I have really liked all the Prime wheels I have had, all disc versions though.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    Would tbere actuslly be any noticeable difference though?

    Of course. Your head will think "oo, bladed spokes, wheels will go more whoosh" and thus, there is more whoosh.
    this is the truest thing ever posted and if anyone disputes it as being FACT i will come round and quite happily fight them

    #allsboutdawhoosh
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    On my Prime black 60s, I can cycle at 60 kph for about 4 hours. Never popped a spoke.

    On my previous Prime RR 50s, I could only cycle at 15 kph for 17 minutes. I also popped a spoke once.

    Seriously though, I have really liked all the Prime wheels I have had, all disc versions though.

    B3 speaks the truth again.

    B3 rocks.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    Would tbere actuslly be any noticeable difference though?

    The point is that if you invest in deep carbon rims, you do so for the speed (or at least I would)... so you would also like bladed spokes.
    I guess I'll keep trying to get my back stretched out lower... :/
    Just do both.

    you know you need da whoosh.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,317
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Would tbere actuslly be any noticeable difference though?

    The point is that if you invest in deep carbon rims, you do so for the speed (or at least I would)... so you would also like bladed spokes.
    I guess I'll keep trying to get my back stretched out lower... :/
    Just do both.

    you know you need da whoosh.
    I'm typically racing folks who have a 90mm front and a disc rear... so I would be outwhooshed anyway
    left the forum March 2023
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,652
    Having looked around a fair bit, £600 still seems to be a decent price. Just a shame it's not £500!
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Would tbere actuslly be any noticeable difference though?

    The point is that if you invest in deep carbon rims, you do so for the speed (or at least I would)... so you would also like bladed spokes.
    I guess I'll keep trying to get my back stretched out lower... :/
    Just do both.

    you know you need da whoosh.
    I'm typically racing folks who have a 90mm front and a disc rear... so I would be outwhooshed anyway
    not if you fit a loudspeaker or megaphone
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ibr17xvii
    ibr17xvii Posts: 1,065
    edited May 2022
    The rim brake 38's have been OOS for ages now.

    I'm tempted by the 50's as they are in stock but they are deeper than I ideally wanted.

    I struggle to control 42's in a strong crosswind as I'm on the light side so not sure how I would cope with 50's.

    The 28's are in stock but they aren't deep enough.
  • super_davo
    super_davo Posts: 1,228
    ibr17xvii said:

    The rim brake 38's have been OOS for ages now.

    I'm tempted by the 50's as they are in stock but they are deeper than I ideally wanted.

    I struggle to control 42's in a strong crosswind as I'm on the light side so not sure how I would cope with 50's.

    The 28's are in stock but they aren't deep enough.

    Primes are pretty wide U shaped rims (27.5mm) which are supposed to give better crosswind handling than older narrower V shaped. It also means that visually they look much less deep - my 38s look pretty shallow on the bike. I would definitely go for 50s if I were buying another set... However when I bought the 38s were in stock not the 50s. I'm only 67kg and have no issues whatsoever in crosswinds - doubt an extra 12mm will make much difference.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Can get a pair of 50mm Edcos for the same price and they are apparently really stable and easy in crosswinds.
  • ibr17xvii
    ibr17xvii Posts: 1,065
    edited May 2022

    ibr17xvii said:

    The rim brake 38's have been OOS for ages now.

    I'm tempted by the 50's as they are in stock but they are deeper than I ideally wanted.

    I struggle to control 42's in a strong crosswind as I'm on the light side so not sure how I would cope with 50's.

    The 28's are in stock but they aren't deep enough.

    Primes are pretty wide U shaped rims (27.5mm) which are supposed to give better crosswind handling than older narrower V shaped. It also means that visually they look much less deep - my 38s look pretty shallow on the bike. I would definitely go for 50s if I were buying another set... However when I bought the 38s were in stock not the 50s. I'm only 67kg and have no issues whatsoever in crosswinds - doubt an extra 12mm will make much difference.

    That's really interesting thanks, I will consider the 50's then. I'm only 64kg so I was worried they'd be too much for me.

    I'm looking at these for my winter bike so there's no rush.

    I ride 42's on my best bike so seems a wee bit mental to have deeper wheels on a winter bike though.

    I wouldn't mind a pic of them on your bike if you have one mate.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,652

    Can get a pair of 50mm Edcos for the same price and they are apparently really stable and easy in crosswinds.

    Where from?
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I got mine from Edco-wheels.co.uk

    It’s the all-road. Often a discount.

    Looks smart too. All Matt black with small gloss black logo.