S*** Small Races Thread - 2022
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Totally believablewakemalcolm said:
For a lot of smaller events I believe this is a negative amount.mididoctors said:How much money is in the broadcast revenues?
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Everyone seems to think that ASO make huge amounts of profit on Tour TV revenues, but a) it's a surprisingly smaller revenue stream than you'd think and b) a lot of it is used to bankroll other key ASO races, i.e. Paris-Nice and the Dauphine.mididoctors said:
That's kinda my point ☝️ can't the sport get some of that?Dorset_Boy said:
Broadcast revenues go to the race organisers, not the teams, which is a massive part of the problem.mididoctors said:How much money is in the broadcast revenues?
This is a decent article on the revenue streams:
https://thehustle.co/the-economics-of-the-tour-de-france/1 -
Buisness is not my forte but it does not surprise me eitherandyp said:
Everyone seems to think that ASO make huge amounts of profit on Tour TV revenues, but a) it's a surprisingly smaller revenue stream than you'd think and b) a lot of it is used to bankroll other key ASO races, i.e. Paris-Nice and the Dauphine.mididoctors said:
That's kinda my point ☝️ can't the sport get some of that?Dorset_Boy said:
Broadcast revenues go to the race organisers, not the teams, which is a massive part of the problem.mididoctors said:How much money is in the broadcast revenues?
This is a decent article on the revenue streams:
https://thehustle.co/the-economics-of-the-tour-de-france/
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
That's a really good one stop overview thanks Andyandyp said:
Everyone seems to think that ASO make huge amounts of profit on Tour TV revenues, but a) it's a surprisingly smaller revenue stream than you'd think and b) a lot of it is used to bankroll other key ASO races, i.e. Paris-Nice and the Dauphine.mididoctors said:
That's kinda my point ☝️ can't the sport get some of that?Dorset_Boy said:
Broadcast revenues go to the race organisers, not the teams, which is a massive part of the problem.mididoctors said:How much money is in the broadcast revenues?
This is a decent article on the revenue streams:
https://thehustle.co/the-economics-of-the-tour-de-france/
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
It's pretty expensive to run a race though. Doubly so to put it up on TV.Dorset_Boy said:
Broadcast revenues go to the race organisers, not the teams, which is a massive part of the problem.mididoctors said:How much money is in the broadcast revenues?
Look at Tour De Yorkshire.
That was a great race, decent riders, fantastic crowds, great scenery. Not sustainable.0 -
Italian Autumn classics are in full swing leading up to Il Lomardia next Saturday.
On Thursday Sjoerd Bax won the Coppa Agostoni, sprinting from a group containing Valverde, Pozzovivo, and Nibali: three riders who appeared to have become detached from the masters race and found themselves at the front of the open category.
Today is the Giro dell'Emilia (198.7km), which features a couple of Appenine lumps between Carpi and Bologna, before finishing with 5 ascents of the climb to San Luca (2km @ 9.8%).
There's a star-studded list of Lombardia hopefuls on the start list: Pogacar, Vlasov, Valverde, Martinez, Yates x2, Martin, Gaudu, Teuns, Mas, Rodriguez, Ulissi, Woods, Hirschi, Superman Lopez, and Alaphilippe.
I can't find any information about TV coverage though. Any ideas?0 -
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Cro race only on Eurosport.
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19 year old Oscar Onley has really impressed at the CRO Race. Only bonus seconds between him and Vingegaard. I wonder if he's done enough to accelerate his move to the World Tour?2
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Zagreb finishing circuit in Cro race was horrible - bollards, cobbles, tram lines, narrow chicanes, parked cars, ...
surprised there was only one apparently minor crash.
Viviani wins stage and Mohoric comes home in second for the overall.
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Vingegaard denied the second biggest win of his career"Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago1
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Anyone see this? Not seen it myself. Mas dropped pog when both had gone away from the remaining peloton.red.rider said:Italian Autumn classics are in full swing leading up to Il Lomardia next Saturday.
On Thursday Sjoerd Bax won the Coppa Agostoni, sprinting from a group containing Valverde, Pozzovivo, and Nibali: three riders who appeared to have become detached from the masters race and found themselves at the front of the open category.
Today is the Giro dell'Emilia (198.7km), which features a couple of Appenine lumps between Carpi and Bologna, before finishing with 5 ascents of the climb to San Luca (2km @ 9.8%).
There's a star-studded list of Lombardia hopefuls on the start list: Pogacar, Vlasov, Valverde, Martinez, Yates x2, Martin, Gaudu, Teuns, Mas, Rodriguez, Ulissi, Woods, Hirschi, Superman Lopez, and Alaphilippe.
I can't find any information about TV coverage though. Any ideas?
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I think RAI had the rights and made it practically impossible for anyone to see the race.kingstongraham said:
Anyone see this? Not seen it myself. Mas dropped pog when both had gone away from the remaining peloton.red.rider said:Italian Autumn classics are in full swing leading up to Il Lomardia next Saturday.
On Thursday Sjoerd Bax won the Coppa Agostoni, sprinting from a group containing Valverde, Pozzovivo, and Nibali: three riders who appeared to have become detached from the masters race and found themselves at the front of the open category.
Today is the Giro dell'Emilia (198.7km), which features a couple of Appenine lumps between Carpi and Bologna, before finishing with 5 ascents of the climb to San Luca (2km @ 9.8%).
There's a star-studded list of Lombardia hopefuls on the start list: Pogacar, Vlasov, Valverde, Martinez, Yates x2, Martin, Gaudu, Teuns, Mas, Rodriguez, Ulissi, Woods, Hirschi, Superman Lopez, and Alaphilippe.
I can't find any information about TV coverage though. Any ideas?PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230 -
Highlights here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cqdD0kB3RY
Didn't think I'd see Mas riding Pogacar off his wheel tbh (or anyone for that matter)0 -
Even the captions guy couldn't believe it was Maas at first and called him as Valverde.================================
Cake is just weakness entering the body0 -
Managed to come in 15th in the Ardenne yesterday, despite an off and cx remount in the last km of a bunch sprint.RichN95. said:In the current UCI World rankings Arnaud De Lie is in sixth place despite only riding five days in the World Tour all season. He truly is the King of S*** Small Races.
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Strong win by Christophe Laporte in Binche-Chimay-Binche today. Went away with Tiller from a strong break, and then rode him off his wheel in the last km.0
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Another unbelievable ride from the most suspicious rider in the peloton?kingstongraham said:Strong win by Christophe Laporte in Binche-Chimay-Binche today. Went away with Tiller from a strong break, and then rode him off his wheel in the last km.
"Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0 -
Or a rider with real talent who got better with more professional training and a reason to actually compete instead of just collecting a cheque.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230
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Rider goes to the best team in the world and improves shocker!0
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He attacked and the rest of the break didn't get organised to chase him down. He was lucky that Tiller managed to stay with him and do plenty of work knowing that would only get him second place.
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Not the right place for this but would anyone happened to know if the UCI world gravel championship is available to watch anywhere?Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0
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Seeing as it's a World Championship, I don't think it belongs in this thread.......and there are quite a number of world champions riding in it.seanoconn said:Not the right place for this but would anyone happened to know if the UCI world gravel championship is available to watch anywhere?
All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."0 -
That’s why I said “not the right place.”andyrac said:
Seeing as it's a World Championship, I don't think it belongs in this thread.......and there are quite a number of world champions riding in it.seanoconn said:Not the right place for this but would anyone happened to know if the UCI world gravel championship is available to watch anywhere?
The question wasn’t worthy of its own thread.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
Yeah, I misread.....
Organizers aren't providing live coverage for the women's race - which is unforgiveable. And traditional gravel races have equal distances between men & women......but not when the UCI run it.All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."0 -
Dan Lloyd has tweeted they have the last 90 minutes live, same as the men's.andyrac said:Yeah, I misread.....
Organizers aren't providing live coverage for the women's race - which is unforgiveable. And traditional gravel races have equal distances between men & women......but not when the UCI run it.1 -
That's good to hear; as per the GCN Show yesterday, it just looked like it would be just highlights during the men's live coverage.
All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."0 -
Really strong performance by Trentin in the Giro del Veneto today.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230
https://youtu.be/Ih0kTJGnG3s
