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and (c) is most deffo wrong if part of the issueelbowloh said:
a) that's not what the tweet was about though was itMattFalle said:
b) we don't call them child killers full stop.
c) it's idiot drivers that are child killers I'd argue.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Your engine might be cleaner but now all engines are very clean. Most of the particulate pollution comes from tyres and brake dust. Bigger, heavier cars create far more of this. Your so called “clean” SUV is anything but. Stupid things.elbowloh said:
My "SUV" has lower emissions than a 1.6 Golf.ddraver said:Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.
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Its also the same size as a golf, just a bit taller, but it's the shape of an SUV. I imagine there are many cars on the road much, much heavier than mine. I also didn't spend loads of money, bought second hand 3 years old. Its very practical and much easier for both myself and my wife to lift a baby and a toddler into than a low down car.photonic69 said:
Your engine might be cleaner but now all engines are very clean. Most of the particulate pollution comes from tyres and brake dust. Bigger, heavier cars create far more of this. Your so called “clean” SUV is anything but. Stupid things.elbowloh said:
My "SUV" has lower emissions than a 1.6 Golf.ddraver said:
Edit, just looked it up. Its the same weight as the lightest Mk7 golf. Some Golfs are 250kgs heavier. So in summary, you don't know what you're talking about1 -
They're also quite, if not very shite.
Want something impratically big on the outside but smaller and with less load space than a normal estate on the inside?
Want an unaerodynamic brick that drinks loads of fuel?
Want something that handles like a blancmange?
Want something that won't fit into most normal parking spaces?
Want something that as you drive along people just shake their heads at you?
Want to feel like middle management?
Don't want to look individual?
Want somethong that you can zoooooooom through 30 and 40mph limits in like they don't exist?
Want a child killer?
Then Sir, we have just the SUV for you. Come here and swallow this hyperbole. You can also pay a shedload for it.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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You don't think dangerous drivers are at fault?MattFalle said:
and (c) is most deffo wrong if part of the issueelbowloh said:
a) that's not what the tweet was about though was itMattFalle said:
b) we don't call them child killers full stop.
c) it's idiot drivers that are child killers I'd argue0 -
I once had a clutch fail 1/2 mile from a race track that needed the RAC to take the car and passengers a long way home within policy. Coincidence? We were just out for a long drive, honest.MattFalle said:
back in the eay days of track days there used to be lots of 1 vehicle RTCs with no witnesses just a few miles from tracks the day after track days.Stevo_666 said:
Used to insure for specific track days through a specialist insurance firm, as clearly your normal policy doesn't cover that sort of thing.surrey_commuter said:
how does insurance work for that?Stevo_666 said:
I used to do just that - own car for trackdays. As did a lot of people. Turning up to the events where cars are provided or you rent a track car is OK for the occasional event but if its a regular thing/hobby as it was for me, having your own made sense.rick_chasey said:
You don't wanna be doing a track day in your own car though!Stevo_666 said:A good car can do track days when needed and can be great fun on the road when the opportunity arises. Mind you, I enjoy mine even when I'm just rumbling round the burbs. Noise, sense of occasion and all that.
I guess I'm boring and figure the temptation to gas it on a public road in a car is probably something we don't need. Been on the receiving end of that on my bike too often.
must have been coincedenceThe above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Yep, did hear a few stories about cars getting towed onto the road and the loose parts getting scattered around the 'crash' site. The worst any of us lot did was nip down to the local Shell station for a top up of Super without taking the slicks off.MattFalle said:
back in the eay days of track days there used to be lots of 1 vehicle RTCs with no witnesses just a few miles from tracks the day after track days.Stevo_666 said:
Used to insure for specific track days through a specialist insurance firm, as clearly your normal policy doesn't cover that sort of thing.surrey_commuter said:
how does insurance work for that?Stevo_666 said:
I used to do just that - own car for trackdays. As did a lot of people. Turning up to the events where cars are provided or you rent a track car is OK for the occasional event but if its a regular thing/hobby as it was for me, having your own made sense.rick_chasey said:
You don't wanna be doing a track day in your own car though!Stevo_666 said:A good car can do track days when needed and can be great fun on the road when the opportunity arises. Mind you, I enjoy mine even when I'm just rumbling round the burbs. Noise, sense of occasion and all that.
I guess I'm boring and figure the temptation to gas it on a public road in a car is probably something we don't need. Been on the receiving end of that on my bike too often.
must have been coincedence
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we're not discussing the drivers, we're discussing the cars - or in this case, the SUV.elbowloh said:
You don't think dangerous drivers are at fault?MattFalle said:
and (c) is most deffo wrong if part of the issueelbowloh said:
a) that's not what the tweet was about though was itMattFalle said:
b) we don't call them child killers full stop.
c) it's idiot drivers that are child killers I'd argue.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I think you're missing the point.
Think about the design of an SUV and come back to me..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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All cars have to pass the same NCAP tests which included pedestrian safety. Mine is NCAP 5 and far exceeds the required score for pedestrian safety. I know what you're getting at with regards to height of bumpers etc, but not all SUVs are the same.
That, of course only comes into play if you have an accident, but I'd wager you're far more likely to be in an accident if you speed and generally drive like a cnut.0 -
Well it was actually my wife but wouldn't argue with the restMattFalle said:Yes, we do call them child killers.
those who drive SUVs generally don't because they shelled out a load of cash for something useless.
they are like the worst possible combo if all cars forced into something marketing hyperbole, naivity and ego has convinced people to buy.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]1 -
I don't know how ego comes into wanting a car where you don't put you're back out getting the kids in the car.0
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never done that in the Anaconda or the Volvo estate with massive wides we had before with 2 bambini.elbowloh said:I don't know how ego comes into wanting a car where you don't put you're back out getting the kids in the car.
plus we had more boot space than you.
so did the 70,123,564 people who had kids and estate cars before the marketing departments got involved.
you've swallowed the hyperbole I'm afraid ..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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those are deffo contributing factors but you'll generally be involved in an accident if you're not very good at driving, haven't taken advanced training and drive around in an SUV cocooned to the world thinking that because you have NCAP 5 you aren't going to cause major fricking trauma to a kiddie as you take their head and chest off.elbowloh said:All cars have to pass the same NCAP tests which included pedestrian safety. Mine is NCAP 5 and far exceeds the required score for pedestrian safety. I know what you're getting at with regards to height of bumpers etc, but not all SUVs are the same.
That, of course only comes into play if you have an accident, but I'd wager you're far more likely to be in an accident if you speed and generally drive like a cnut..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Are you 6'5"?MattFalle said:
never done that in the Anaconda or the Volvo estate with massive wides we had before with 2 bambini.elbowloh said:I don't know how ego comes into wanting a car where you don't put you're back out getting the kids in the car.
plus we had more boot space than you.
so did the 70,123,564 people who had kids and estate cars before the marketing departments got involved.
you've swallowed the hyperbole I'm afraid .
No.
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I think this says more about your prejudices than anything else. You're stereotyping.MattFalle said:
those are deffo contributing factors but you'll generally be involved in an accident if you're not very good at driving, haven't taken advanced training and drive around in an SUV cocooned to the world thinking that because you have NCAP 5 you aren't going to cause major fricking trauma to a kiddie as you take their head and chest off.elbowloh said:All cars have to pass the same NCAP tests which included pedestrian safety. Mine is NCAP 5 and far exceeds the required score for pedestrian safety. I know what you're getting at with regards to height of bumpers etc, but not all SUVs are the same.
That, of course only comes into play if you have an accident, but I'd wager you're far more likely to be in an accident if you speed and generally drive like a cnut.
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Hahaha! If only you knew!elbowloh said:
So in summary, you don't know what you're talking about
You didn’t specify what lightweight pointless vehicle you had, but in general what I said stands. Plus I don’t accept that any VW built after
1992 is a Golf. They became bloated jelly moulds after that.Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.
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This is just getting ridiculous now.
I've been very specific about my own car with actual details. You guys are generalising about all SUVs with no fecking facts whatsoever.
I'm out.0 -
no.elbowloh said:
Are you 6'5"?MattFalle said:
never done that in the Anaconda or the Volvo estate with massive wides we had before with 2 bambini.elbowloh said:I don't know how ego comes into wanting a car where you don't put you're back out getting the kids in the car.
plus we had more boot space than you.
so did the 70,123,564 people who had kids and estate cars before the marketing departments got involved.
you've swallowed the hyperbole I'm afraid .
No.
6'2.
But my mate who is a 6'7 basketball player never had any grief with his bambini and a Ford Focus.
How's the cost of those tyres by the way?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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i think this says more about my job than anything else.elbowloh said:
I think this says more about your prejudices than anything else. You're stereotyping.MattFalle said:
those are deffo contributing factors but you'll generally be involved in an accident if you're not very good at driving, haven't taken advanced training and drive around in an SUV cocooned to the world thinking that because you have NCAP 5 you aren't going to cause major fricking trauma to a kiddie as you take their head and chest off.elbowloh said:All cars have to pass the same NCAP tests which included pedestrian safety. Mine is NCAP 5 and far exceeds the required score for pedestrian safety. I know what you're getting at with regards to height of bumpers etc, but not all SUVs are the same.
That, of course only comes into play if you have an accident, but I'd wager you're far more likely to be in an accident if you speed and generally drive like a cnut..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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no you're not because you can't get in your SUV because people have parked to close to your doors because its too big for the parking space.elbowloh said:This is just getting ridiculous now.
I've been very specific about my own car with actual details. You guys are generalising about all SUVs with no fecking facts whatsoever.
I'm out..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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My ten penny worth. All SUVs I’ve driven are just jacked up small cars. Estates are much more practical and as they are not trendy they are much better value for money.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.3 -
But what about your back?pblakeney said:My ten penny worth. All SUVs I’ve driven are just jacked up small cars. Estates are much more practical and as they are not trendy they are much better value for money.
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What SUV do you drive Elboh ?[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Good. Given my age, excellent. Possibly helped by buying good cars with quality seats.First.Aspect said:
But what about your back?pblakeney said:My ten penny worth. All SUVs I’ve driven are just jacked up small cars. Estates are much more practical and as they are not trendy they are much better value for money.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
And drive like cars rather than like vans.pblakeney said:My ten penny worth. All SUVs I’ve driven are just jacked up small cars. Estates are much more practical and as they are not trendy they are much better value for money.
Estates > SUVs
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My friend has one on pre-order0
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Think I'll stick with what I have thanks.oxoman said:The future Urghh🤢🤮🤮
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Maybe not.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0
