Euro 2020/21 (more football, sorry Brian)

pblakeney

verylonglegs said:

Why on earth would Scotland play for a draw?

Wot SC said.

elbowloh

Two of Scotland's best chances have come when Mount didn't track back with a runner

ddraver

Oh man, is it raining up North. Been Beautiful in Cornwall all day... 😎

Not the classic I was expecting thus far.

First.Aspect

ddraver said:

Oh man, is it raining up North. Been Beautiful in Cornwall all day... 😎

Not the classic I was expecting thus far.

Sunny here. Unfortunately I'm listening to STV commentary. It's not neutral.

Stevo_666

MattFalle said:

We're gonna win it.

29 unbeaten
81 goals for
7 against

stats like that would have the engerlish jeffing themselves.

to us - meh. we won Eurovision.

Their training methods are very good.

https://youtu.be/KZ0D8W7OvTg

ddraver

Can anyone give me a quickie on why Grealish (?) coming on/not coming on is being talked about so much..?

Dorset_Boy

The best player on the pitch has just been subbed. Does Southgate know what he's doing?

seanoconn

Dorset_Boy said:

The best player on the pitch has just been subbed. Does Southgate know what he's doing?

No, Foden was the only player looking remotely dangerous.

First.Aspect

seanoconn said:

Dorset_Boy said:

The best player on the pitch has just been subbed. Does Southgate know what he's doing?

No, Foden was the only player looking remotely dangerous.

I thought he was having a bad game actually.

seanoconn

First.Aspect said:

seanoconn said:

Dorset_Boy said:

The best player on the pitch has just been subbed. Does Southgate know what he's doing?

No, Foden was the only player looking remotely dangerous.

I thought he was having a bad game actually.

Compared to who?

First.Aspect

seanoconn said:

First.Aspect said:

seanoconn said:

Dorset_Boy said:

The best player on the pitch has just been subbed. Does Southgate know what he's doing?

No, Foden was the only player looking remotely dangerous.

I thought he was having a bad game actually.

Compared to who?

Good point.

Pross

Pross said:

seanoconn said:

Predictions for tonight’s game?

It won't live up to the hype.

Called it, what do I win?

focuszing723

Well played Scotland, that all I can say.

Pross

Bit embarrassing for the Scots to be celebrating a 0-0 like that.

Dorset_Boy

Well that was a load of utter sh!te.
No pace, no urgency, no desire to create chances.
Neither side is getting beyond the last 16 unless they improve drastically.

Pross

Dorset_Boy said:

Well that was a load of utter sh!te.
No pace, no urgency, no desire to create chances.
Neither side is getting beyond the last 16 unless they improve drastically.

Careful, you'll get the Chasey lecture for saying "no desire"

pblakeney

First.Aspect said:

Scotland seem to have burned themselves out a bit. They will have 15 or 20 more minutes of scurrying then England will set up camp in their half and Grealish will come on, achieve nothing and it will end 0-0.

First.Aspect said:

Scotland seem to have burned themselves out a bit. They will have 15 or 20 more minutes of scurrying then England will set up camp in their half and Grealish will come on, achieve nothing and it will end 0-0.

Scotland's energy lasted longer than predicted but well played that man!

ddraver

Think I'll stick to cycling, that's never boring....

ahem

First.Aspect

Dorset_Boy said:

Well that was a load of utter sh!te.
No pace, no urgency, no desire to create chances.
Neither side is getting beyond the last 16 unless they improve drastically.

That was like a league 1 relegation 6 pointer in February on a heavy pitch. In 1987.

elbowloh

Well done Scotland, were the better team and put more effort in.

England were terrible, slow, slow, extra touch, pass back.

I think Reece James passed forward once in the entire game and that was in the 88 minute.

No one running past the man with the ball. No one ever trying anything but the safest pass.

Kane was dreadful, he's clearly not match fit. Sterling was dreadful too.

seanoconn

Reality hits home again. England to Scrape past the group stage and go out last 16/quarters. Who cares with that performance.

slowmart

I was left wondering if the ITV commentators were watching the same game.

A detachment from reality of such epic proportions they should gravitate towards a political career.

kingstongraham

Foden was magic tonight. He's an absolute star. The problem is that there's no point playing with a number 9 if you are literally never going to try to find him with the ball. Nor Kane's fault, but waste of time him being there if the tactic is just to never cross. Doesn't make a difference if he's replaced by rashford either.

First.Aspect

kingstongraham said:

Foden was magic tonight. He's an absolute star. The problem is that there's no point playing with a number 9 if you are literally never going to try to find him with the ball. Nor Kane's fault, but waste of time him being there if the tactic is just to never cross. Doesn't make a difference if he's replaced by rashford either.

I think I have more pace than Harry Kane.

rick_chasey

That felt much more like the England of old

First.Aspect

rick_chasey said:

That felt much more like the England of old

Good job we have such a fantastic crop of attacking talent, or we'd struggle to score.

seanoconn

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

Foden was magic tonight. He's an absolute star. The problem is that there's no point playing with a number 9 if you are literally never going to try to find him with the ball. Nor Kane's fault, but waste of time him being there if the tactic is just to never cross. Doesn't make a difference if he's replaced by rashford either.

I think I have more pace than Harry Kane.

He’s so slow he has to look for a foul when he finds himself in a bit of space ‘running’ towards goal to save embarrassment.

rick_chasey

First.Aspect said:

rick_chasey said:

That felt much more like the England of old

Good job we have such a fantastic crop of attacking talent, or we'd struggle to score.

Heard that story before!!

DeVlaeminck

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

I'd expect its because in those teams, the second best right back is considered better down the left than the best left back is.

Fwiw, I think that's very rarely actually true.

Anyone who follows club football for a few years will come across situations where the choice is whether to play an experienced player out of position or bring in some kid from the reserves. I understand this balancing act, but was surprised anyone would think of it as a good tactical move and write an article about it rather than an act of desperation which is more likely to be the case.

You should probably read it before you comment.

You’ve already got the wrong end of the stick twice.

And with both Shaw and Chiswell in the squad putting Trippier there isn’t desperation clearly.

Not read it but assuming it agrees that teams pick a right footed RB at LB because they are better players (limited pool of left footers) but then discusses how it's not entirely negative - there are plusses as well as minuses - it's different rather than worse.

DeVlaeminck

Pross said:

Bit embarrassing for the Scots to be celebrating a 0-0 like that.

I'm gonna disagree Pross - given the mismatch in the squads that's a moral victory even if it's only 1 point.