Euro 2020/21 (more football, sorry Brian)

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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Be interesting to see what Southgate does with the FBs this tournament as they will need more attacking threat to really trouble better teams.

    He's obviously given Phillips a bit more freedom to get forward than he has at Leeds playing him more as an 8 than a 6 but with Kane likely to keep dropping deep unless we get Sterling/Rashford in on the break it's all a bit predictable and easy to defend against - getting an overlap from the FBs would be an obvious route to go.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486

    pblakeney said:

    I'd expect its because in those teams, the second best right back is considered better down the left than the best left back is.

    Fwiw, I think that's very rarely actually true.

    My pet theory is them picking their best 11-15 players and making a formation out of those instead of the other way round.
    Well yeah. Look at Belgium last match.

    Fairly rubbish till the good players came on at half time.
    Let me clarify. I was referring to lesser quality squads. As an example, they'd rather pick 3 good left backs and play one of them at right back than someone who does it for a living in a smaller team.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    When I play FM that's what I would do.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    More teams are playing with their wingers on the wrong side, so a right footed winger, playing on the left and cutting in. So it might make sense if you're defending against that to do the same with your full-backs.

    For that to make sense however, you'd do it with both full-backs wouldn't you?
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  • verylonglegs
    verylonglegs Posts: 4,023
    I thought the Trippier selection is just a case of Southgate picking a player who has delivered for him in a tournament before even if he has to play him out of position.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078

    I thought the Trippier selection is just a case of Southgate picking a player who has delivered for him in a tournament before even if he has to play him out of position.

    I think also, he's our set piece taker (as Alexander Arnold is out). But then why not play him at RB
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  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,739
    Predictions for tonight’s game?
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    seanoconn said:

    Predictions for tonight’s game?

    It won't live up to the hype.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025

    I'd expect its because in those teams, the second best right back is considered better down the left than the best left back is.

    Fwiw, I think that's very rarely actually true.

    Anyone who follows club football for a few years will come across situations where the choice is whether to play an experienced player out of position or bring in some kid from the reserves. I understand this balancing act, but was surprised anyone would think of it as a good tactical move and write an article about it rather than an act of desperation which is more likely to be the case.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    seanoconn said:

    Predictions for tonight’s game?

    2-0 England, fairly average game, appalling commentary.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    I'd expect its because in those teams, the second best right back is considered better down the left than the best left back is.

    Fwiw, I think that's very rarely actually true.

    Anyone who follows club football for a few years will come across situations where the choice is whether to play an experienced player out of position or bring in some kid from the reserves. I understand this balancing act, but was surprised anyone would think of it as a good tactical move and write an article about it rather than an act of desperation which is more likely to be the case.
    You should probably read it before you comment.

    You’ve already got the wrong end of the stick twice.

    And with both Shaw and Chiswell in the squad putting Trippier there isn’t desperation clearly.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    More conventional full back settup for England today
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    seanoconn said:

    Predictions for tonight’s game?

    England win. 2-0 minimum.
    Boring start as Scotland will be playing for the draw. Might liven up after England score.
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  • verylonglegs
    verylonglegs Posts: 4,023
    Why on earth would Scotland play for a draw?
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    England 2-1, Kane penalty and Mount to score also
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Why on earth would Scotland play for a draw?

    because they areshit and can't do anything else.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    is it on itv or bbc?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,610

    No pace, were you watching the same game? What else was the second goal about?

    Can you read Rick?
    I said in the starting line up. The second goal was scored after they'd subbed the centre forward and an attacking midfielder.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    MattFalle said:

    is it on itv or bbc?

    ITV
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    is it on itv or bbc?

    ITV
    grazie!

    its going to be friggin' unwatcheable with that commentary.

    sound off, Radio 5 Live on.
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    MattFalle said:

    is it on itv or bbc?

    I've been trying to figure this out myself. I just don't know what to do?

    I guess I will have to miss it if nobody comes up with the answer.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    edited June 2021

    MattFalle said:

    is it on itv or bbc?

    ITV
    Phew, cheers!
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    Why on earth would Scotland play for a draw?

    Because that followed by beating Croatia will see them qualify 😂😂😂😂
  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,739
    MattFalle said:

    is it on itv or bbc?

    Lazy b@stard
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    mec

    i'm italian.

    a). never waste a calorie
    b). we're gonna win it anyway
    c). this game is just something to pass the time before I go and sit in another car park
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    Kane is having a mare. His touch is terrible and not making simple passes
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    MattFalle said:

    mec

    i'm italian.

    a). never waste a calorie
    b). we're gonna win it anyway
    c). this game is just something to pass the time before I go and sit in another car park

    #Emotional
  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,739
    Scottish patriotism and dislike of the English has boosted their performance by 50% making England look ordinary 😗
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    Sterling's touch has been poor too. Mis-controlled about 5 passes to him so far.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,379
    Scotland seem to have burned themselves out a bit. They will have 15 or 20 more minutes of scurrying then England will set up camp in their half and Grealish will come on, achieve nothing and it will end 0-0.